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Salt thread purporting not to be salt threads are the best. 

Silence Priest is competitive and exceedingly fun. 

Unbelievable that this thread is still alive.  Perhaps there should be a trigger warning at the title screen for all of you very sensitive snowflakes.  You are seriously maladjusted if you take offense at every emote.

This is a particularly dumb thread, which is really saying something around here.  Every playstyle is represented in the current meta.  Move along to the salt thread.

Warlock for me. Wrecked secret pally, combo druid, and all kinds of other annoying meta crap pre-WotoG

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I was wondering whether this game is still the #1 in card games or not. You are literally rewarded by nothing for being loyal and logging in over and over. 

You are literally rewarded with nothing for being loyal and logging in over and over. No daily bonuses, no chance to ever get in-game gold apart from 3 wins = 10g which is like nothing, packs are expensive, drop ratio for epic + legendary are blatantly low. What is even more interesting are the types of Quest you do get in HS: win 5 games as ....., which means if you aren´t capable of winning with the particular class you have 0 chance of getting experiences as a new player. Furthermore, as a newbie player winning 3 games even at rank 25 is kinda impossible because this place even in casual is rot by pirate warriors and defeating it with a basic card deck? - good luck :)

I play many card games let´s compare it a little bit. 

When I started playing ShadowVerse I was literally just given 3x14 pack as a starter. When I started playing "the elder scrolls legion" I was given an adventure where I was given for free many playable and interesting cards, even 2 - 3 legendaries. When you start playing HS you are given nothing but a slap in your face. 

For a new HS free-to-play player in the current state of the game, it is possible after a year or more to play decks like zoo or face hunter with a few basic cards because you have nothing else literally.

To conclude, do you think Blizz should somehow reward their players for actually playing this game or keep ignoring this case because players are "somewhat" like satisfied? To start with I would add Daily login rewards or a way to earn dust without disenchanting your cards ( for example in TESL you earn 15 vials for defeating NPC opponents - yes there´s a daily cap but if you really want to try hard you are rewarded for that).

What is your opinion are you mostly satisfied with rewards you are getting or not?

PS: I really hope someone from Blizzard reads this shit ( I know naivety at its finest ) but I would appreciate it xD

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This thread is silly. Everyone knows that HS does not diligently follow the lore of WoW. Jade Spirit isn't an elemental because it would be busted AF. End of story. Only fan boys care about WoW lore in HS. 

Quit whining. People play decks they can win with. Nobody is under any obligation to run some theorycrafted garbage just so you can run yours without getting punished. 

Well, the obvious comparison here is with Azure Drake, since Drake is an identically-scaled card with virtually identical effects.  With the tribal tag and the battlecry effect as opposed to deathrattle, Drake is the more powerful card in a vacuum.  There are some exceptions, obviously, primarily in combo decks that will leverage the cheaper spell damage and don't care about the body or tribal tag.  So, (1), Thalnos is not quite on the same power level as its closest comparable card.

Also, there's the question of how a given card impacts the playabilty of other cards.  Azure Drake is more or less the default option in the five slot.  Sylv is the gold standard for 6-drop value outside of combo decks.  Rag is essentially the only 8-drop that sees play.  Thalnos does not have the same priority in the 2-slot.  Shaman runs it because of Spirit Claws and because its cheap AOE really benefits from the boost.  It makes sense in a lot of mage and Rogue decks, which can leverage cheap spell damage and appreciate the cycle.  That's really about it.  There's also the fact that so many decks run a number of 2 drops, while even the heaviest of decks will not run more than say 4 5-drops and 1-2 cards in the remaining heavier mana slots, many of which are AOE or removal.  So, Thalnos isn't keeping people from running cool cards that just don't have the same power level or utility in the 2-drop, unlike sylv, rag, and Azure.

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As i already said before,i'm considering cutting off the second auctioneer,thats another spot for something bigger and more impactful.Nourishes are very important to draw those discounted minions after the quest is done.And as for earthen scales,they are a substitute for the cards that are rotating out.And they can help you sustain more when it goes to aggro matchups.Or a 10+ armor up on a huge Jade golem vs mid range decks that are pushing for lethal,it might not be enough but it can buy you a turn to try and turn the table.

Also an easy activator for auctioneer,and a spell count for yogg.

As wild growth,i cant imagine any druid being without them,except maybe beast druids.Its a very important card to be left out.And in the worst case scenario,its a draw.And aswell a good auctioneer activator too.

 It just seems to me you're hoping for a perfect world ideal situation still (completing the quest, but only having 3 actual minions with 5+ attack, so you rely in Jade Golems, but then the minions who's cost would be reduced to zero who's attack ISN'T 5 is things like Gadgetzan, Thalnos, Druid of the Claw, Fandral, etc, since you're not running any actually big minions).  You say you want to use Nourish to draw the big zero cost minions - where are your big minions?

Let me guess OP, you are a Rogue, Hunter or Warlock player. As others have said, your class is not supposed to have heals. I feel for Warlocks right now, but not really. Your soul shall suffer. 

The control/freeze/burn Mages you’re talking about might be a matchup problem for you, but they are not a design problem. The design intent is for games not to have to play to fatigue just because neither player brought an aggro deck. I don’t miss at all the days of C’thun Warrior, when games were decided by which control deck managed to best avoid drawing. You play 2-3 games of that, then tell me whether you’re still having fun an hour later.

If you will notice something about the last two sets, they each have mechanics that are designed to accelerate the game to a conclusion in the later turns. Jade Golems were the beginning of it, but now also Quests, no healing, and so on. Most players really do prefer the game to end, tbh.

" Gadgetzan Auctioneer was close to being added to the Hall of Fame but they like that it's a very high skill card."

I'm failing to see the high skill behind this card. Just because lots of stuff happens in one turn and the guy is drawing half of his deck doesn't make it skilled. Sylvanas actually requires more thoughts before playing her than the Auctioneer, in term of figuring every situation that can happen, and whether Sylvanas will actually make an impact in every single of the situations, how you can change that with other cards, what opponent's minion you can afford to leave alive and those you gotta control, etc etc. Gadgetzan Auctioneer is just about waiting to have enough cheap spells in your hand, drop him, and see your opponent die of boredom.

Not removing this card which makes Jade Druid beyond broken and gives an incredibly un-interactive game when it is played is the one mistake they did with the Hall of Fame.

How are there so many duplicate threads about decks that can have no duplicates? 

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They nerfed Tuskar totemic which isn't nothing, there were threads about that and a bunch of crying.  Doomhammer was whined about because of the rockbiter combo, well they nerfed the rockbiter part.  Execute received more outcry than ever in recent months, and what do you know...all of a sudden this card that has been around since the beginning was nerfed.  

Games should be balanced at the highest level of play, and according to statistics and data.  Not opinions of random people online.  If you look at most other competitive games that is how it done...cause you know it makes sense. 

Even when they are only worth 3 mana, you didn't refute

So, you're getting, at a minimum, 9 mana in value for 8 mana (probably closer to 10 given 22 total stat points), plus the additional value of not spending 3 cards to generate those 3 minions.

and I'm no experienced player, but

Call fo the Wild is only really effective when you have a board left from turn 7 (which is a tough turn for Hunters since they do not have a decent 7 drop).

Doesn't fit the games I played, Savannah Highmane plus maybe some smaller minions has my hunter opponent having something on the board most of the time. Who cares if hunter has no strong 7-drop when he has two strong deathrattle 6-drops?

I think this doesn't apply to Hearthstone.

The truth is that Hearthstone is divided between two factions: the ''Aggro Justice Warriors'' and the ''Control Master Race'', the rest are independent individuals.

1. When the ladder resets, you usually play against tier decks that are suited for fast climbing (decks that have few bad matchups among the popular lists). Dragon Warrior is one of those.
2. Standard is less boring than Wild because it doesn't have staple cards that made decks strong in the past. Personally I think I had enough of them.
3. Aggro isn't trash neither extremely easy and if you think this maybe you should l2p against it - or even WITH it. 
4. You can't reach legend based on pure luck, the probability is so low that almost isn't real. The same goes for too much defeats: So, if you're being defeated very often, maybe you should try to improve your skills instead of blame anything.
5. There are many playable/enjoyable decks in both formats, but I believe Wild has a lot more of staple cards (reenforcing), which means it has less archetypes.

So if you're salty about being so few decks, make a list that counters them and be happy. I mean, if every deck is aggro and aggro is "trash", just make a control shaman - which deals great against aggro - and reach legend in hours.

BTW: If you, like me, wants to facepalm at the absurd amount of posts like this, because people can't adapt and have to complain about everything without second thinking, JUST LOOK AT THIS GUY POSTS. It's freaking hilarious! He calls every single deck bad and probably never thought something like "wow, maybe I should try to improve"? Seriously, so funny! 

Duh.

Anyone who labels all aggro easy, and all control rocket science...or vice versa is stupid.  Plain and simple.  You want to talk about face hunter or control warrior or specific decks and how much skill they take to pilot optimally, that is fine.  Talking about entire archetypes makes one look ignorant.  All control isn't the same, all aggro isn't the same.  

The root of such prejudice is one wants to label the other guys deck (aggro usually) as brainless and dumb, and one's own deck as rocket science to pathetically excuse oneself from accepting their losses.  It is just sad.  Stop with such pitiful threads.

We all know that aggro vs control is brainless, from both sides. It's aggro vs aggro and control vs control that are skilled. There's nothing to debate about.

Ben is smoking the crack pipe and trying to pass it to us.  He just needs to admit that Priest keeps getting shafted.  Priest has never been relative. (Of course there will be the response that when Mind Control was 8, in beta, blah blah blah).  Priest has no early game threats, Not enough healing to protect itself.  Considering that Paladin got Forbidden Healing and Ragnaros, Lightlord is just obscene.

With no early game threat, no mid-game threat and no real synergy between cards, Priests are simply a badly broken class.  Further proof, not 1 Priest legendary is in play regularly.  He needs to simply admit that it's crap, go back to the drawing board and quit buffing the classes that are already dominant.