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    posted a message on 4 draws and a win?

    I can confirm that I win on turns 4-6 regularly in wild. I even had a turn 3 win but that was vs the Warrior that likes to self-harm and draw a weapon that doubles his damage. 

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    posted a message on Forever stuck on Gold 9-8 for 2-3 Month now

     Thank you for the links slice_of_pi.

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    posted a message on Forever stuck on Gold 9-8 for 2-3 Month now

    Why Blizzard would put such a high price of entry for new players or existing players wanting to try out a new ladder or players who missed a season is beyond me.  This poorly design and executed MMR system is going to discourage more people from playing ladder including previously paying players like me than it encourages to spend to climb.

    I made rank 6 in standard, then platinum.  I tired out wild and the experience has sucked me dry to the point that I no longer play wild or standard seriously.

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    posted a message on Forever stuck on Gold 9-8 for 2-3 Month now
    Quote from Zenon1989 >>

    The thing is: I can climb from the lowest Rank to Gold 10 in one or two days. When I reach Gold, suddenly my rng is so worse its unbelievable. I draw and mulligan shit every match. Also the Matchmaking is against me. This happens every time I play against Gold Players. I tested so much DH decks, let me tell you I played every Deck DH offers. The results are every time the same.

    I know Some player reach platin or Diamond  very easy. For me it's not the case. And being stuck at the same shit Rank since month I don't know what to do. It's like at Gold the Game changes so much. I am testing my own version of DH at the Moment because every other deck I copied(Netdecking) doesn't seem to work for me. 

     

     

     So you finished Gold last season.  That means you have bonus stars for Bronze and Silver.  While you have bonus stars you are being matched by the first MMR system.  This first MMR matches you against opponents based on your rank from last season.... so pretty easy opponents and combined with a good deck = high win rate.

    Once your bonus stars run out, so for you as soon as you hit Gold, you switch to the second MMR system.  This second system I don't fully understand yet.  But it seems it can match you against just about anyone including players in legend based on your recent win rate and perhaps class or deck type.  I would love to read some documentation on this MMR system but I haven't found any yet.  I am not ready to believe it affects RNG but I am not willing to discount this 100% either.

    But I suspect you are having the same issue I am in wild.  I finished in Gold last season just like you.  I ran through Bronze and Silver this season barely loosing a game.  Then, once I hit gold, I switched to the second MMR system.  The difficulty of my opponents drastically changed to be much harder.  There was no ramp, it was a night and day difference.

    I suspect this is an issue with the design of the two MMR systems.  If you finished low rank the previous and have a good deck, you are going to get hammered hard once your stars run out after running very good in the first system.  It's really unfair and a roadblock for people to advance who had a low rank the previous season.  Perhaps next season we need to throw a lot of games in the first MMR system while we still have stars, to lessen the impact by entering the second MMR system with a lower win rate, though I have no idea if this will help.

    What makes it really unfair is that you have no idea who you are facing.  You might have a really great deck and be playing vs many Diamond and Legend players as the system tries to balance you out, but you have no way of knowing.  You have no way to know if you are using a good deck or not, you are put into the grind mode of the second MMR system early in gold have have no choice but to play a lot of games to grind up with a near 50% win rate or give up.

    Players of higher rank the previous season start out harder in the first system, but they have the bonus stars to assist their rise up through that.  Those of low rank get slammed early when they have no stars left to assist.  It's a pretty sh#tty unfair system that sucks out my desire to play at all.

    An equal bucket system would be better.  In that kind of system you rise through the ranks and opponent difficulty slowly ramps until you reach the rank where your deck/skill equalize naturally. 

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    posted a message on Is there a bug in MMR?

    It's not a bug, it's a feature.  I am of the opinion that the new MMR system is poorly designed and or executed.

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    posted a message on Why the new matchmaking system is a disgrace

    The deck I am using has 1 legendary, 0 epics and is aggro.  My opponents were easy in MMRa but very hard in MMRb (after your bonus stars run out).

    So it seems I am stuck playing vs Rez Priest half my matches, which I despise, not knowing if my deck is good or not.  Or quitting again.  Thanks Blizzard.

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    posted a message on Why the new matchmaking system is a disgrace

    I play between 100-200 matches per season.   I am not happy net decking and copying the meta, I aspire to challenge the meta.  So I like to make my own decks and want to know how they compare.  With the old system it was clear.  When I made it to standard rank 6 with my own aggressive version of Highlander Mage I was content with that.  Ladder worked fine then, so the key question is why change it?

    Now I started playing wild and I have a unique Mage deck and I want to know how it compares.  I want to know if I was able to build a decent mouse trap.  But I can't it seems in the new MMR system since I have no idea who the second system is matching me against.  If it's other Gold rank players then my deck sucks obviously.  If it's diamond and legend players then I know I have something half decent and will put more time into seeing it through. 

    When I play casual it does very well, but I don't know if that's because the casual pool sucks.

    Maybe if I had hit legend the previous season, then perhaps I would be in a better position to do so.  But now I have to get my ass kicked long enough to negate the position I was put in by my high win rate in the first MMR system this season.  Exiting the first system early with a good deck and win rate then entering the second system which will match you against anyone seems to be a significant hurdle to new players or those wishing to transition from casual to ladder.  This transition for me from one system to the next at Gold for me is like someone hit the switch from Easy to Master rather than any curve like the old system.  Having that change occur in Gold makes for a very hard, long climb.

    I guess to start next season I should throw a lot of matches until my stars run out. 

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    posted a message on Why the new matchmaking system is a disgrace

    Can someone link me to the documentation on the MMR system.  Or, I should say instead, systems.

    It seems there are 2 systems and I was right that the switch occurs when your bonus stars run out.  

    "Kerfluffle, Community Manager of Blizzard, informs us that there are two different MMR: " There is one which is based on your star multiplier which is allocated to you at the end of the season. When this is 1, one another takes over and builds on your current rank . ""

    https://www.millenium.us.org/news/15453.html

    So for me, I finished Gold in Wild last year because I quit ranked for this reason.  So this season, I am playing crappy opponents in the first MMR system.  I start out with a very high win rate through bronze and silver.  For someone who finished Legend last season, they will face some tough opponents to start.  Those people will not get the win rate I did in the first system that is active while you have bonus stars.

    I exit the first MMR system early in Gold with a high season win rate.  Those with lots of bonus stars play in the first system much longer and do not get an elevated win rate.

    So then we enter MMR system 2.  I have no information on how this works.  My vague idea is that it somehow reviews your win rate and matches you against opponents based on that both with regards to class and MMR.  You are not permitted to know what rank those opponents are now.  The only reason to hide this now is that there will be large disparities at times and they don't want everyone to see this.  

    So is it possible that when I enter the second MMR system, that I am being punished for the very high win rate I saw from the first MMR system?  

    I think that HS should report the rank of your opponent again period.  There is no excuse for not reporting this.  If there is nothing nefarious worth hiding then there is no reason for the secrecy.

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    posted a message on Why the new matchmaking system is a disgrace

    That's it?  Then my question stands and I think it is an important one.  How do I tell how good my home brew deck is when I am blind to the ranks of my opponents?

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    posted a message on Why the new matchmaking system is a disgrace

    Please tell me how you know your opponents rank.  I see nothing but a name. 

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    posted a message on Why the new matchmaking system is a disgrace

    Looks like the same experience for me this season in wild. 

    I am using my own home brew Mage deck.  I quit playing ranked early last season in gold so I have limit d bonus stars.  This is 3 seasons in a row now if the exact same formula playing out.

    I start the new season strong, barely losing any games rising up to the top half of gold. I see a good variety of decks on the way, quite balanced. 

    As soon as I get top half of gold everything changes. This is a night and day difference. I see no variety anymore and my win rate drops to 50%. All I face now are great Priest and Rogue decks, at least 8 out of 10 are one of these two classes.  Maybe the odd demon Warlock and pirate Warrior. 

    The previous 2 seasons this is where I quit out of principle.  I went back to casual matches and found variety and a good winrate again. 

    I hate this.  Nothing gets gradually harder as you climb. A switch is flipped for me early in gold and it's like I'm fighting at diamond level 1 to try to hot legend. Nonsense.  They believe this will drive me to invest more in the game, but instead, knowing I am being manipulated, it drives me away. 

    I'd much rather have an equal bucket system knowing the first week of each season will be a bit tougher and the last a bit easier. 

    Maybe the timing of the switch is linked to when your bonus stars run out. 

    I see people talking about the rank of their opponents. How do you see this?  On my phone and laptop all I see is their names.   Without knowing who I am playing how am I to determine how good my homebrew deck is now?

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    posted a message on Why the new matchmaking system is a disgrace

    One stupid question and one attempt to summarize my view.

    How do you tell what level your opponent is?

    People spend more often when faced with tough obstacles.  Casual players didn't face enough obstacles with the equal bucket ranking system.  The MMR system brings in tough obstacles sooner so that a broader range of players find themselves in that situation rather than just the grinders. 

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    posted a message on Dragonqueen Alexstrasza is a bad card

    She can be combo'd with The Amazing Reno to give you a rebuild kick start if you save the bonus dragons.

    But I do find her sticking around my hand longer sometimes now vs when she first arrived.

     

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    posted a message on Felfire Festival quest bug

    Ignore this. 

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    posted a message on #FUCKPriest

    Convincing Infiltrator makes me sad. 

    But this should be a salt post. 

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