Uh...you realise quest mage is tier 3...right? What you're saying it ping mage is just as good as quest mage then.
That makes sense because Quest destroys slow decks, while Ping is better at handling aggro. Quest tends to beat Ping when they face off against each other because Ping has to play minions and Quest does not.
(OoZuNoO's comment about RSW is silly, of course, because Ping has plenty of minion-based draw.)
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I really want to know what kind of Quest Priest you are talking about here. Sorry, but it simply seems wrong. How does Quest Priest beat a Quest Mage? Building a board is useless because the Mage just freezes the minions over and over again. You straight up help them finish their quest faster by playing minions. Healing? Like, are you serious here? Quest Mage can burn you down from 30 health easily after Arcanist Dawngrasp is played. Healing is completely worthless against them. So, i want to know about this magical quest priest list that somehow beats Mage. It doesn't sound realistic at all.
Watch Kibler play Quest Priest. He destroys Quest Mages on a regular basis, and it's not just cherry-picking good games for YouTube. I've played the same deck with similar results.
As for burning you down from 30, that means you've played poorly or built a terrible deck. You should be applying enough pressure and interference (from watch posts and ogres) that the Mage has to spend face burn on minions just to stay alive. Freezing a board with towers and ogres is only going to make things much, much worse for the Mage.
And no, these are not tech cards that ruin your deck against other meta decks. Towers and ogres are just all-around good because minion-heavy decks cannot compete in this removal-heavy meta.
p.s. *off-topic* tell me again why renew and apotheosis got nerfed???
Renew was too much value for one low price, and allowing it to be generated by Wandmaker made it way, way too good. Releasing it at a Cost of 1 was just plain wrong.
Apotheosis was nerfed because of its interaction with Samuro, no other reason.
I assume you are wandering down this path because you think Quest Mage should not be allowed to outlast a fatigue-style Priest deck. The thing is, the recent versions of Quest Priest are perfectly capable of beating Mage long before fatigue, even if the Priest never finishes the quest. They just win with a lot of heals and good boards that the Mage can't deal with. This is much a much healthier win condition than dragging every game into fatigue.
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I don't think he was insulting your deck in particular. He was saying that if the deck you are using doesn't fair well against Mage and Warlock(40%) then conceding is the correct option anyway.
If my deck smashes Warlock and Mage, of course I LOVE queueing into them.
That's exactly what I was saying. I did find the ironic "assumptions" jab pretty hilarious, though.
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Easy meta breaker. Mage and Warlocks' greatest weakness to their questlines, is conceding. It's the only way.
Honestly though, I just concede against them. No fun in playing against a deck that isn't willing to play against me. Been waaay happier, and they are more spread in the meta, so at least 3 out of 4 games, are not them. I can still climb, and not be bothered to play against a noninteractive deck.
That's pretty much the correct approach if you are using a deck with less than a 40% win rate against them. It's exactly what aggro decks used to do against control back in the olden days.
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"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
That makes sense because Quest destroys slow decks, while Ping is better at handling aggro. Quest tends to beat Ping when they face off against each other because Ping has to play minions and Quest does not.
(OoZuNoO's comment about RSW is silly, of course, because Ping has plenty of minion-based draw.)
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
Watch Kibler play Quest Priest. He destroys Quest Mages on a regular basis, and it's not just cherry-picking good games for YouTube. I've played the same deck with similar results.
As for burning you down from 30, that means you've played poorly or built a terrible deck. You should be applying enough pressure and interference (from watch posts and ogres) that the Mage has to spend face burn on minions just to stay alive. Freezing a board with towers and ogres is only going to make things much, much worse for the Mage.
And no, these are not tech cards that ruin your deck against other meta decks. Towers and ogres are just all-around good because minion-heavy decks cannot compete in this removal-heavy meta.
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
Renew was too much value for one low price, and allowing it to be generated by Wandmaker made it way, way too good. Releasing it at a Cost of 1 was just plain wrong.
Apotheosis was nerfed because of its interaction with Samuro, no other reason.
I assume you are wandering down this path because you think Quest Mage should not be allowed to outlast a fatigue-style Priest deck. The thing is, the recent versions of Quest Priest are perfectly capable of beating Mage long before fatigue, even if the Priest never finishes the quest. They just win with a lot of heals and good boards that the Mage can't deal with. This is much a much healthier win condition than dragging every game into fatigue.
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
That's exactly what I was saying. I did find the ironic "assumptions" jab pretty hilarious, though.
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
That's pretty much the correct approach if you are using a deck with less than a 40% win rate against them. It's exactly what aggro decks used to do against control back in the olden days.
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
The meta has problems, but the win condition of a Tier 3 deck is not one of them.
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland