This is interesting! Both parts have merit when they say, it is unfair to judge me and it is fair to judge me. The perception of my actions or my accounts thereof is biased by one's own experiences with people like me. One of the mayor flaws of mankind has always been judgement based on our own perception of reality.
One of you, condemning me and my alleged actions has merit based on his perception and my white knight does the same. So who is right and who is wrong? None and both! This is our bane, we allow our own bias to interfere with our judgement. This is why one of the many Jesus' of our history was quoted by saying, do not judge lest you are judged.
You are just muddying the waters. You really think twice when someone uses sarcasms, ironies to tell his problems. Some people has that style of living. I am not defending that but you need to know the person who you are communicated with. At least try to understand. It seems you can't do that.
It was obvious that OP needs really help with something when I read the topic. She/he just told his help requirement with a sarcastic and joke-y way.
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Seems like She/he wants a help to rescue, not to burgle to me, eh?
Also for the point you've done there, Yes I have decided to twist the matter of discussion. Guess why? Because OP did not open this thread for "Flaming" discussion. You community guys have directed it to that point. Also What you've done as quoting me was not an honest behaviour. It is way worse than flaming in my opinion because you've cut my comment to suit your book.
I have tried to help first, then jumped into your discussion as you can see here;
I couldn't see any of you who are discussing flaming tried to help. You are defending yourself as "I never help burglars to lockpick a door" and I am saying "She/he was dying, doesn't need help of a burgle" and the quote from OP above proves this.
And the other point that you told about "flaming and teamwork" is fully nonsense. I know what I experienced so much. When I say one of my teammates to "Don't do that again, You've made us die there" or "Hey x, Do you want to join us in teamfights, maybe?" I always faced same reaction from other teammates. "DUDE STOP FLAMING!". Seriously !? What !? Really !?
Cut a long story short; Yes, Flaming is an issue that the community misunderstood mostly.
I am not required to understand the person, specially if the person doesn't want to make sure I know them. I am not required to understand or guess whether the OP is being sarcastic. If the OP wants to make sure people interpret it as such, he will make sure of that, if he doesn't, I am not required to interpret him as he wants to be interpreted.
In other words, if you want people to interpret your point in a specific way, you should be as specific about it as possible, as upfront about it as possible, even go as far as to delineate it to people.
Since the OP decided not to post in this manner, we have a situation where some people interpret it in one way, others interpret it in another, and that, is solely fault of the OP. I read the original post and from how he wrote it, I didn't see any evidence of the OP wishing to redeem himself for his behaviour which he assumed caused his consequence, and if he doesn't intend to redeem himself and stop that behaviour, why should one help him continue enabling him the option for that behaviour?
In the post you quoted, I see nothing that would change my mind, quite the opposite, from his 3. point. When he know his flaw which he assumes lead him to this position, and doesn't even see fit to change that flaw, I don't see a point in helping him. It will only lead to him likely continue his behaviour.
I didn't cut your quoted post to suit my book, I cut it to let you know what I was addressing in my reply. I could just as easily make a full quote and bold the areas I wanted to focus on, but that, in my opinion, is a worse option because it doesn't accomplish my objective, which is to make the post as easy as possible to read through, and to occupy only the space it absolutely requires.
You just changed your burglar example. Your original post with the burglar example equates the OP to the burglar, and puts us in the position of helping the burglar get out of a burning house. You are now removing your previous equation and instead placing the OP in a different position, where the OP is now requesting help from the burglar. The OP is not requesting help from any burglars.
OP is the burglar, OP is the individual who admittedly incurred in problematic (According to the ruling entity, Blizzard) behaviour, and is suffering consequences for such behaviour. As if the burglar was arrested for his actions, and then, when in jail, decided to ask people to help him out of a situation he himself knowingly put himself in.
As for the part about Teamwork and reactions you get, I cannot speak for you personal experience, and for the incorrect use of flaming.
If those are the indications you give to your teammates, and they label it as flaming, that is not my fault, that is not flaming, that is simply you giving them indications. I very much doubt that is the kind of flaming the OP is talking about, since that is not flaming, it is just constructive criticism.
Sorry for misspelling but i didn't change my example. I have just wrote wrong. I wanted to say like "She/he was dying, doesn't need your help to burgle."
Also I really need to ask, If you wouldn't help, Why are you here exactly?
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Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players. ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
This is interesting! Both parts have merit when they say, it is unfair to judge me and it is fair to judge me. The perception of my actions or my accounts thereof is biased by one's own experiences with people like me. One of the mayor flaws of mankind has always been judgement based on our own perception of reality.
One of you, condemning me and my alleged actions has merit based on his perception and my white knight does the same. So who is right and who is wrong? None and both! This is our bane, we allow our own bias to interfere with our judgement. This is why one of the many Jesus' of our history was quoted by saying, do not judge lest you are judged.
Still, on a side-note, I cannot add anybody and my quest cannot be completed. Looking for help and not judgement.
I gave you one, You jumped I guess. Did you try re-install the app ? It fixed my HoTS problem before. It may help you too. I'm not saying uninstall Hearthstone, just the app and re-download + locate your game.
If it doesn't fix your issue, some people may be right about pending friend requests. If your pending requests are 200 exactly, It may cause a problem since you can have only 200 friends. If all accepts your pending requests, you can't add more. So that could be the problem too.
Just try re-install the app. If it doesn't help, Submit a ticket about this pending requests.
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players. ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
well you're an honest guy and idk how that happen but same things happen to me but instead for some reason, my game will crash and gone invisible along with blizzard launcher after a couple of game
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Blizz, can i play class other than paladin?
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Sorry for misspelling but i didn't change my example. I have just wrote wrong. I wanted to say like "She/he was dying, doesn't need your help to burgle."
Also I really need to ask, If you wouldn't help, Why are you here exactly?
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
I gave you one, You jumped I guess. Did you try re-install the app ? It fixed my HoTS problem before. It may help you too. I'm not saying uninstall Hearthstone, just the app and re-download + locate your game.
If it doesn't fix your issue, some people may be right about pending friend requests. If your pending requests are 200 exactly, It may cause a problem since you can have only 200 friends. If all accepts your pending requests, you can't add more. So that could be the problem too.
Just try re-install the app. If it doesn't help, Submit a ticket about this pending requests.
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
Even Faceless Summoner can have some extra friends!
well you're an honest guy and idk how that happen but same things happen to me but instead for some reason, my game will crash and gone invisible along with blizzard launcher after a couple of game
Blizz, can i play class other than paladin?