do you guys think that Hearthstone should also have a beta-expansion experience where you can actually test all the cards that are going to be released or do you think that as it is, the surprise effect is way better? I am just thinking about World of Warcraft where there are actually beta testings to fix bugs, see about overpowered or even underpowered stuff etc. etc. Like that, I am sure that too overpowered stuffs can be targeted way faster than just after the cards being released and it would also solve the problem of blizzards thinking since they said that mysterious challengers play is a surprise and they thought that lock and load would see more gameplay. With a beta account (maybe not for everyone, just for some players to test even in ranked mode! Not a normal account) all these problems might be solved
Guess either noone ever concidered this or I just did not see anything about this.
Of course it should have one.And it doesn't have to be open for everyone.
Blizzard employees had said manny times that a lot of cards didn't resulted how they expected because when they tested those cards they weren't so OP or they thought they were strong or even playable. The point of that would be to have people who is actually good at playing and deck building testing new stuff and giving some advices. The buch about ruining the surprise and they thinking that whatever amount of people they are using to test stuff is enough sounds like lame excuses to keep the cost to develop new content to a minimum.
I actually think Hearthstone is one of the games that doesn't need an expansion Beta. Learning which cards are good and how to put a deck together that works with new cards is one of the best part of expansions. A Beta would lessen this, as those in the Beta would simply post all the best decks online and people would understand how everything works already.
I do like the idea of having a Tavern Brawl open one week to try out new mechanics, like they did before TGC, but I don't think an actual Beta would help the game. The madness of the post-expansion meta is some of the best fun in Hearthstone.
Well the problem is just that only maybe 10% of people are like really deckbuilding aby kind of decks. 90% of people don't care about it and are just copy pasting all the decks built in for example hearthpwn. And I guess to avoid something like a huge meta as it was with undertaker or grim patron (or even secret paladin) a beta would kinda be alright. Think about World of Warcraft a bit. There we have a beta as well to see which bosses are basically op as hell or maybe just really weak. Same goes for class balance. I mean for Hearthstone, we have to trust to the developers but for WoW, basically they let us test it first (this is one of the few things WoW is pretty cool I have to say, even though they listened to their players too much). We basically still let blizzard create the cards but we are going to test them first. I can't really trust blizzard anymore in this since they are just making the meta faster and faster the more development bypasses...
Terrible idea, love the surprise, they've got an internal testing team now for this express purpose. I also think it's fine to have good archetype-defining cards. You don't want the vocal majority to boo-hoo into extinction every cool card in the game.
Well if people don't like to be spoiled, they just don't play the beta so they still have this surprise effect. I mean it is basically every time the same thing when an expansion releases. Maybe 30% of people try the new cards, like 70% just watch trump or the decks in hearthpwn and just play whatever they played before until they can basically put the 2-3 cards that are faster than other decks. As it is, it is way more terrible with these few meta basing cards like mysterious challenger. We can avoid all these cards and the balancing system would be way better than just releasing the cards and listening to all these people who are crying about the op cards. Think about hearthstone in the early months when naxxramas came out. If we had a beta hearthstone account, we would have checked the op undertaker before the release and wouldn't have waited for 6 months to be nerfed...
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do you guys think that Hearthstone should also have a beta-expansion experience where you can actually test all the cards that are going to be released or do you think that as it is, the surprise effect is way better? I am just thinking about World of Warcraft where there are actually beta testings to fix bugs, see about overpowered or even underpowered stuff etc. etc. Like that, I am sure that too overpowered stuffs can be targeted way faster than just after the cards being released and it would also solve the problem of blizzards thinking since they said that mysterious challengers play is a surprise and they thought that lock and load would see more gameplay. With a beta account (maybe not for everyone, just for some players to test even in ranked mode! Not a normal account) all these problems might be solved
Guess either noone ever concidered this or I just did not see anything about this.
Just remember the good times!
Of course it should have one.And it doesn't have to be open for everyone.
Blizzard employees had said manny times that a lot of cards didn't resulted how they expected because when they tested those cards they weren't so OP or they thought they were strong or even playable.
The point of that would be to have people who is actually good at playing and deck building testing new stuff and giving some advices.
The buch about ruining the surprise and they thinking that whatever amount of people they are using to test stuff is enough sounds like lame excuses to keep the cost to develop new content to a minimum.
I actually think Hearthstone is one of the games that doesn't need an expansion Beta. Learning which cards are good and how to put a deck together that works with new cards is one of the best part of expansions. A Beta would lessen this, as those in the Beta would simply post all the best decks online and people would understand how everything works already.
I do like the idea of having a Tavern Brawl open one week to try out new mechanics, like they did before TGC, but I don't think an actual Beta would help the game. The madness of the post-expansion meta is some of the best fun in Hearthstone.
Well the problem is just that only maybe 10% of people are like really deckbuilding aby kind of decks. 90% of people don't care about it and are just copy pasting all the decks built in for example hearthpwn. And I guess to avoid something like a huge meta as it was with undertaker or grim patron (or even secret paladin) a beta would kinda be alright. Think about World of Warcraft a bit. There we have a beta as well to see which bosses are basically op as hell or maybe just really weak. Same goes for class balance. I mean for Hearthstone, we have to trust to the developers but for WoW, basically they let us test it first (this is one of the few things WoW is pretty cool I have to say, even though they listened to their players too much). We basically still let blizzard create the cards but we are going to test them first. I can't really trust blizzard anymore in this since they are just making the meta faster and faster the more development bypasses...
Just remember the good times!
Terrible idea, love the surprise, they've got an internal testing team now for this express purpose. I also think it's fine to have good archetype-defining cards. You don't want the vocal majority to boo-hoo into extinction every cool card in the game.
People that 'love the surprise' just don't care about the game being balanced, Period!
If they had a HALF DECENT team at balancing sht BEFORE they were created we wouldn't have to deal with Dr. 6.
I'm sorry, but we need a better representation at the 'before release' stage.
Well if people don't like to be spoiled, they just don't play the beta so they still have this surprise effect. I mean it is basically every time the same thing when an expansion releases. Maybe 30% of people try the new cards, like 70% just watch trump or the decks in hearthpwn and just play whatever they played before until they can basically put the 2-3 cards that are faster than other decks. As it is, it is way more terrible with these few meta basing cards like mysterious challenger. We can avoid all these cards and the balancing system would be way better than just releasing the cards and listening to all these people who are crying about the op cards. Think about hearthstone in the early months when naxxramas came out. If we had a beta hearthstone account, we would have checked the op undertaker before the release and wouldn't have waited for 6 months to be nerfed...
Just remember the good times!