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    posted a message on Jandice will be extremly op.

    It's an interesting point regarding play impact.

    I had a look on HSreplay and pogo's is pretty much top except for 3-5 mama bear and 6-7 kaly. I'd assume pogo is there solely due to Jandice playing one every turn once she gets one. 

    So it's basically like getting like a bran/lightfang/mama bear etc.

     

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    posted a message on Is there a way to know when you are queued against a group

    You make a board weaker by keeping minions in hand when playing vs group members. It can also benefit you in later turns to have that gold saved up in the form of minions.

    If you're selling high tier minions that are valuable later on it's obviously bad.

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    posted a message on Jandice will be extremly op.

    You don't seem to want to look at/accept the data from HSreplay, 3.3million matches from this patch. Jandice has actually gradually decreased in average ranking across this time. So you're right in that the initial games from the start of the patch may be hiding an even better win rate.

    Pogos are common enough that after 4 rolls at 12.8% there's a 50% chance you have seen one. In actual fact this is probably slightly better as pogo's not really contested and other minions will be removed from the pool. That's pretty consistent to me.

    I'm sure that in a couple of weeks once the hysterics have subsided that you'll be admitting a misjudgment regarding this hero, we'll just have to wait until then.

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    posted a message on Jandice will be extremly op.

    Its roughly 12% to get a pogo each roll right with nothing removed from the pool? That increases as players pick up other minions especially as pogo's are pretty uncontested. One pogo is enough to carry from the early to late game. It doesn't have an especially high impact on the play style of the hero as you just play it like a normal hero.

    Pogos being currently the statistical best is due to Barov. You're correct that the popularity being so low highlights that it is only viable in a specific circumstance, having Jandice predominantly. There other heroes Bran, Shudder and Arianna that also contribute to pogos win percent.

    To believe that pogo's combined with Jandice does not reliably offer a strong chance at top 4 just doesn't stack up with the facts or probability.

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    posted a message on Jandice will be extremly op.
    Quote from rogerdodger >>

    I just don’t see how a 12.8% to find a pogo is broken. The odds to find two are even less. This just leads to people fishing for pogos. Every game today with baron she has either exited early at a low tier digging for pogos, or won with pogos. It’s not reliable, you need to hit a pogo by turn 4 to even scale mildly. 

    IF

    Blizz removes pogos it will be to try to get people to pick her regardless of mech availability not because pogos are OP. 

     Jandice is currently statistically the best hero on HSreplay.

    Pogo's are currently statistically the best comp on HSreplay.

    It is clearly reliable enough to be a consistent strategy.

    Pogo's standalone aren't the issue it's a minion retaining their buffs, pogo's just scale the best and are reliable to pick up.

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    posted a message on Jandice will be extremly op.

    Jandice is the highest ranked hero on hsreplay, I feel as if you've misjudged this heros power level.

    Not getting pogos in one run doesn't make this a weak hero as it's consistent enough that you will see a few more often than not.

    It's definitely a weaker hero power when there aren't mechs but the issue is when there are mechs available.

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    posted a message on Jandice will be extremly op.

    You can pretty much consistently get at least two pogo's in a run and once you've got those it's almost guaranteed top 4. Only one is really needed to level up whilst retaining an ok board.

    The mechanics of the hero is cool just the minions retaining their buffs is the issue.

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    posted a message on Strange difficulty spike
    Quote from Ace100ace200 >>

    The biggest problem in this game right now is the possibility to take more than 15 dmg in one turn. I think it should be capped to have at least 1 more chance to come back.

     Rat Pack is probably the biggest offender in the early game for taking extra damage. Packleader let's it be buffed so easily now often it's going to proc 4 rats. Late game having coilers or imp mama proc some high teir minions is reasonably ok as it's heavily rng what you get. I suppose the only thing that they could do is allow them to only spawn minions from your current tier or below. This then stops getting one of these early summoning a couple 6 drops.

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    posted a message on They need rule for First Attack

    Battlegrounds is based on increasing your rating over time. If you consistently play above average you'll increase your rating.

    Going first 4 times out of 10 in one game isn't going to affect your rating across 100 games. Just think you have the same chance to go first every time in one game as you do to go second 😉.

    Going first or not seems to only be an issue for some when they don't go first. It probably never registers with them when they go first and win.

     

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    posted a message on They need rule for First Attack

    You will be going first half the time so how is this unfair or game breaking?

    If your board is so dependant on going first it's not the game that's the problem but your comp. Better decisions will lead to more rng protection throughout games.

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    posted a message on Strange difficulty spike

    Maybe you just need more time than others to understand the meta. You'll probably get back to 6k again if you play more games.

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    posted a message on They need rule for First Attack

    Nothing really fairer than an equal chance you will go first is there?

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