"Let's look at the facts. The OP got angry and frustrated. He threw a fan in frustration because he was pissed and accidentally broke his TV. Based on that alone, people immediately jump to the conclusion that he needs to seek professional help? Give me a fucking break."
Why do you say you want to look at the facts and then leave out pertinent facts? As I've said twice now, the issue as I see it isn't the action itself, the issue is the attitude towards the action and seeming belief that there's nothing to be done about it. I have heard very similar attitudes toward more serious action, and it's concerning to me. If you disagree, fine. But if you expect "a fucking break" yourself, do the courtesy of not deliberately misstating others' statements.
EDIT: The above stands regarding Casm's statements, but it should be mentioned in addition that I either missed the OP's statements about being in therapy or they were made after my first post. Either way, glad to hear it.
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
Honestly, I'm more concerned about the people that claim they've never thrown something out of anger or frustration. I've punched a wall before due to frustration. Hell, when I was in Highschool, my music teacher punched a chalkboard due to frustration and it's not like he was an unbalanced or unstable person. He was just frustrated. It happens and it's human. But these people that claim it's something more serious than it clearly is, perhaps they should be the ones to contact a shrink. Seriously, it's just not normal to go through your entire life with nothing ever aggravating you to that point. It honestly sounds like those people might be emotionally suppressed due to any number of reasons.
Now don't get me wrong, there are healthier ways to vent your frustration than breaking your television. But come on people, trying to suggest this guy is unstable or something is fucking stupid. He was frustrated, he threw something vent his frustration and accidentally broke his TV. It was an accident. It happens. Jesus Christ, it's not some hidden deep mental issue at work here (well, I mean, I don't know the guy but based solely off the information we have). These people claiming otherwise must have lived the most sheltered lives imaginable.
Yes, the ole' "evidence to the contrary is proof". Those who don't have a problem have the real problem.
First of all, this is not a case of hitting a wall, but you know already the example you gave is in no way related to the OP.
This is a case of throwing something breakable and hitting something more expensive and breakable. I have no idea the OP's financial status, but presumably he/she's not rich enough that breaking a television doesn't represent a relevant expense to replace. Of course there's a difference between that and your example.
Similarly, I'm assuming from your story that the music teacher didn't splinter multiple bones in his hand when he hit the wall, and yet, if someone similarly punched a wall hard enough to warrant an ER visit, hopefully you wouldn't say, "It's the folks who haven't broken their hand on a wall that have the real issue".
As for it just being an object and not a person, that's always the case . . . until the day it isn't. The action itself isn't what I consider an issue. The seeming total unwillingness/inability to change things or get help is the issue. I haven't read all the replies to this post before my own, but as for myself, I never made any statement that suggested I've never lashed out in anger. The only difference between me and OP is I've never suggested genetics or anything other than my own stupidity and lack of perspective is to blame.
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
If a kid sets fires, and tortures animals, mind you I'm no psychologist, but I think these behaviors highly correlate to some other issues later in life.
I studied in germamy (maintenance) and (curative educator) and teachers told me it's very normal for children to torture animals in kindergarten. I also learned it's totally normal for a 10 yold healthy kid that it can't draw a house, flower or cloud without explaining you what it is becouse you can't identify it... For me still a little weird
Edit: teacher say it's fucking weird if you never done it, and most likely you just forgot. Jump on frogs ans ants and stuff
I must be fucking weird then. The concept of killing other living things for no reason has repulsed me since I can remember.
To be fair, I've always read that torture in that sense isn't just killing. The case studies I've read as a layperson only involved more drawn out acts like . . . well, like stuff I don't really want to write about.
Also to be fair to OP, I wasn't implying breaking a TV is similar to torturing animals, except in the sense that they both may be correlated with more serious acts over time. I don't claim expertise on the subject.
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Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
I have empathy for the folks who recognize the danger they are to other folks and take necessary steps.
I have ZERO empathy for folks who seem very content with the excuse "I can't help it" and continue on without changing anything.
Sooner or later it will be a person, and I hope they don't take "I can't help it" seriously.
EDIT: For me it was relatively harmless in the great scheme of things. Parents left a few scars, of the visible and invisible varieties, but we all have our demons from childhood.
My wife, on the other hand, got the real horror show of the "I can't help it" crowd. Her first husband beat her into a miscarriage and was there with flowers at her hospital bedside fully expecting "I can't help it" to be an acceptable end to the discussion.
If a kid sets fires, and tortures animals, mind you I'm no psychologist, but I think these behaviors highly correlate to some other issues later in life. I would be willing to bet destroying valuable property in fits of anger correlates to some other issues as well. Empathy can be discussed, but it's not high on the list of things I want to deal with here.
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
Good thing what you hit was an inert TV and not another human being.
It would be amusing to hear these stories of genetics of short tempers and mild memory control suffering from behind prison bars instead of a gaming forum. Of course, go to any prison and you'll hear similar stories; I just hope the victims aren't as understanding as the posters in the forum.
If this sounds like trolling, it isn't. It's resentment for all the times my parents knocked out a tooth and told me they couldn't help it. That shit finally caught up to my father, but never could get the cops to go after mommy dearest despite the blood loss and bruises.
Fun times.
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
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@CasmX
"Let's look at the facts. The OP got angry and frustrated. He threw a fan in frustration because he was pissed and accidentally broke his TV. Based on that alone, people immediately jump to the conclusion that he needs to seek professional help? Give me a fucking break."
Why do you say you want to look at the facts and then leave out pertinent facts? As I've said twice now, the issue as I see it isn't the action itself, the issue is the attitude towards the action and seeming belief that there's nothing to be done about it. I have heard very similar attitudes toward more serious action, and it's concerning to me. If you disagree, fine. But if you expect "a fucking break" yourself, do the courtesy of not deliberately misstating others' statements.
EDIT: The above stands regarding Casm's statements, but it should be mentioned in addition that I either missed the OP's statements about being in therapy or they were made after my first post. Either way, glad to hear it.
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
Yes, the ole' "evidence to the contrary is proof". Those who don't have a problem have the real problem.
First of all, this is not a case of hitting a wall, but you know already the example you gave is in no way related to the OP.
This is a case of throwing something breakable and hitting something more expensive and breakable. I have no idea the OP's financial status, but presumably he/she's not rich enough that breaking a television doesn't represent a relevant expense to replace. Of course there's a difference between that and your example.
Similarly, I'm assuming from your story that the music teacher didn't splinter multiple bones in his hand when he hit the wall, and yet, if someone similarly punched a wall hard enough to warrant an ER visit, hopefully you wouldn't say, "It's the folks who haven't broken their hand on a wall that have the real issue".
As for it just being an object and not a person, that's always the case . . . until the day it isn't. The action itself isn't what I consider an issue. The seeming total unwillingness/inability to change things or get help is the issue. I haven't read all the replies to this post before my own, but as for myself, I never made any statement that suggested I've never lashed out in anger. The only difference between me and OP is I've never suggested genetics or anything other than my own stupidity and lack of perspective is to blame.
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
I must be fucking weird then. The concept of killing other living things for no reason has repulsed me since I can remember.
To be fair, I've always read that torture in that sense isn't just killing. The case studies I've read as a layperson only involved more drawn out acts like . . . well, like stuff I don't really want to write about.
Also to be fair to OP, I wasn't implying breaking a TV is similar to torturing animals, except in the sense that they both may be correlated with more serious acts over time. I don't claim expertise on the subject.
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
I have empathy for the folks who recognize the danger they are to other folks and take necessary steps.
I have ZERO empathy for folks who seem very content with the excuse "I can't help it" and continue on without changing anything.
Sooner or later it will be a person, and I hope they don't take "I can't help it" seriously.
EDIT: For me it was relatively harmless in the great scheme of things. Parents left a few scars, of the visible and invisible varieties, but we all have our demons from childhood.
My wife, on the other hand, got the real horror show of the "I can't help it" crowd. Her first husband beat her into a miscarriage and was there with flowers at her hospital bedside fully expecting "I can't help it" to be an acceptable end to the discussion.
If a kid sets fires, and tortures animals, mind you I'm no psychologist, but I think these behaviors highly correlate to some other issues later in life. I would be willing to bet destroying valuable property in fits of anger correlates to some other issues as well. Empathy can be discussed, but it's not high on the list of things I want to deal with here.
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
Good thing what you hit was an inert TV and not another human being.
It would be amusing to hear these stories of genetics of short tempers and mild memory control suffering from behind prison bars instead of a gaming forum. Of course, go to any prison and you'll hear similar stories; I just hope the victims aren't as understanding as the posters in the forum.
If this sounds like trolling, it isn't. It's resentment for all the times my parents knocked out a tooth and told me they couldn't help it. That shit finally caught up to my father, but never could get the cops to go after mommy dearest despite the blood loss and bruises.
Fun times.
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.