On an only slightly related note, there's a popular youtuber in the chess community, I think his name is Levy something, but the channel name is Gotham Chess.
Anyway, he's an IM (International Master) which is below a GM in chess rankings, and he just started making this series of videos where he and this other chess player who is considerably better than Gotham both tackle the same chess puzzle. What is interesting and relevant to the discussion here is how incredibly NOT self-conscious the player is about openly comparing himself to a better player and talking about his shortcomings at finding the solutions and what not.
That type of attitude was so refreshing to see after the average Hearthstone forum stuff, I was floored.
This is the mentality of a mature person that realizes that there is always room for them to grow.
And I really am sick and tired of the RNG complaint. First, and frankly foremost, people know the boat their getting into when it comes to hearthstone/any card game really. Card games, EVERY card game, is going to have variance. If you want to play something that has no variance, go play fifa or something else. You can’t jump in a pool and whine about getting wet.
And second, RNG is only a portion of it. The same names don’t end top 10, top 100, top 500 every month because they’re stars watch over them more than everyone else’s. This game is about realizing your outs, and playing to them. Of course there are going to be games where you get screwed by getting a bad draw, by your opponent getting a god draw, or some Discover card hitting the “perfect” card. See my first point.
Personally, I don’t think people have the right to complain about RNG and play any card game. It’s just nonsense, and is so obviously not the genre they should be playing.
Scarily correct. I swear we could simply keep removing cards from the meta till every keyword, battlecry, deathrattle, and steady state ability was out of the game, and people would start posting about how War Golem is too OP.
This is exactly right. They could prune, and prune, and prune, and prune and all of a sudden “chillwind yeti is beyond broken.”
I really can’t be convinced otherwise, because I’ve been around since beta, and seen the complaining since then. 8 mana mind control, 8 mana pyro was “the worst thing ever,” both got nerfed, people moved on. Miracle rogue came along, got nerfed, people moved on.
It never ends, and to prove it, just save my responses in here for next weeks nerfs. It will take no longer than 48 hours for the next round of complaints to scour the forums. Because again, when people lose, it’s the game’s fault, not theirs.
I’m going to be pessimistic. In the eyes of the community, “no” it won’t be.
Kibler hit the nail on the head on his stream today. So many people in this community are just never happy. The meta is always “the worse it’s ever been.” People love love love to complain and blame the game for their losses. This happens every single time.
A couple of classes are top of the meta game. People whine and complain.
They roll out a balance patch, something else becomes the top of the meta game. People will whine and complain about that.
They could literally roll out a balance patch a week about whatever the community is witch hunting that particular week, and then people would just move onto complaining about the next thing.
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This is the mentality of a mature person that realizes that there is always room for them to grow.
And I really am sick and tired of the RNG complaint. First, and frankly foremost, people know the boat their getting into when it comes to hearthstone/any card game really. Card games, EVERY card game, is going to have variance. If you want to play something that has no variance, go play fifa or something else. You can’t jump in a pool and whine about getting wet.
And second, RNG is only a portion of it. The same names don’t end top 10, top 100, top 500 every month because they’re stars watch over them more than everyone else’s. This game is about realizing your outs, and playing to them. Of course there are going to be games where you get screwed by getting a bad draw, by your opponent getting a god draw, or some Discover card hitting the “perfect” card. See my first point.
Personally, I don’t think people have the right to complain about RNG and play any card game. It’s just nonsense, and is so obviously not the genre they should be playing.
This is exactly right. They could prune, and prune, and prune, and prune and all of a sudden “chillwind yeti is beyond broken.”
I really can’t be convinced otherwise, because I’ve been around since beta, and seen the complaining since then. 8 mana mind control, 8 mana pyro was “the worst thing ever,” both got nerfed, people moved on. Miracle rogue came along, got nerfed, people moved on.
It never ends, and to prove it, just save my responses in here for next weeks nerfs. It will take no longer than 48 hours for the next round of complaints to scour the forums. Because again, when people lose, it’s the game’s fault, not theirs.
I’m going to be pessimistic. In the eyes of the community, “no” it won’t be.
Kibler hit the nail on the head on his stream today. So many people in this community are just never happy. The meta is always “the worse it’s ever been.” People love love love to complain and blame the game for their losses. This happens every single time.
A couple of classes are top of the meta game. People whine and complain.
They roll out a balance patch, something else becomes the top of the meta game. People will whine and complain about that.
They could literally roll out a balance patch a week about whatever the community is witch hunting that particular week, and then people would just move onto complaining about the next thing.