If you see you're going first, and you don't have anything to combo off of, it's usually best to mulligan and try and get a faster hand. Defias Ringleader isn't a necessity early on. I win games as Rogue just fine when i go first.
I hate it when I play a rogue and they have the coin. 99% of the time, they somehow draw one of those Defias cards in their opening hand.
Just a heads up, if they know they are playing second - then they are actually mulliganing for that specific card, which means they are have 8 chances out of 15 cards (since they have 2), so thats greater than a 50/50 chance it will be there + the chance of drawing it as their first card.
If you want 1 specific card and your deck has 2, mulliganing gives a reasonable chance of getting a specific card if you invest your entire hand.
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Nozdormu wins you every game where you opponent has to go to the bathroom on turn 9.
When people whine about certain game disadvantages its kinda annoying. Kingbaboon or whatever your name is, Learn the game and you wont see going first as a rogue a disadvantage cause normally when you play your combo's early you waist them considering every class has early game removals and/or summoner spells on top of that. Your statement makes me believer your a month or newer in and or you don't play much. My advice to you bud is to think positive, play the game cause its fine and don't act like a spoiled brat that didn't get his way :P
When people whine about certain game disadvantages its kinda annoying. Kingbaboon or whatever your name is, Learn the game and you wont see going first as a rogue a disadvantage cause normally when you play your combo's early you waist them considering every class has early game removals and/or summoner spells on top of that. Your statement makes me believer your a month or newer in and or you don't play much. My advice to you bud is to think positive, play the game cause its fine and don't act like a spoiled brat that didn't get his way :P
I got ranked 10 in five days bro. pls don't pass your stupidity off due to a falty ranking system. BTW even though rank 6 is nothing to be proud of, you stating that your a priest on top of that makes me believe your lying and you watch too much kripp. Kingbabar are you the type to hide behind someone with the shotgun and brag about the bear mounted on your wall?
@OP: Chance of going first 9 times in a row is 1 in 512; since there are many people playing then there will be quite a few people experiencing this (or going second 9 times in a row) every day.
You should be happy though - it gives you an advantage, albeit slight. Unless you've made a deck which not only requires certain cards in your opening hand to do well, but also requires you to go second. Then, of course, you can expect to lose often...
I'll be honest, I don't mind the fact that the luck of the draw can give or take a 1.3% advantage from me in a game, it's called "luck of the draw", the game starts at coin toss, and that's almost negligible, to be fair there are decks who are much stronger going second that rely mostly on the fact that the coin is a spell and/or combos, but I digress. In the current meta, I don't think the coin makes a big difference. Something that I also believe, is that the earlier you play the coin, the faster you'll get on the upper hand and the higher your chances of winning are.
Defias Ringleader is good, no denying that, but most rogue decks run a plethora of 1's and 2's in case they go first or they can't combo off. Most of them actually curve on the 2 drops
Argent Squire, Faerie Dragon, Loot Hoarder, Gnomish Engineer, Mad Bomber, Knife Juggler etc. Hell, T2 weapon even works most of the time. All of these see some play.
Rely less on a gimmick, and more on the deck as a whole.
I got ranked 10 in five days bro. pls don't pass your stupidity off due to a falty ranking system. BTW even though rank 6 is nothing to be proud of, you stating that your a priest on top of that makes me believe your lying and you watch too much kripp. Kingbabar are you the type to hide behind someone with the shotgun and brag about the bear mounted on your wall?
so ranked is a test of skill unless the person is me? lol stay in school kid
best class for going second is rogue or any class with pyro or gadget. coin is a broken mechanic that needs to change before release or open beta. why it still counts in a combo or with card effects is just so stupid
I just think its funny when people state their rank like they think they are good. and most of the time the people that are so quick to say "Im ranked six brahhhh" are the ones that didn't have enough attention as a child and are striving to be cool over the internet even though they are still ranked 20
I just think its funny when people state their rank like they think they are good. and most of the time the people that are so quick to say "Im ranked six brahhhh" are the ones that didn't have enough attention as a child and are striving to be cool over the internet even though they are still ranked 20
This game takes like no skill dude...
Are we supposed to be impressed by your epeen for supposedly calling people out. He isn't bragging, you are just being a douche. So STFU, and stick your tictac back in your pants.
best class for going second is rogue or any class with pyro or gadget. coin is a broken mechanic that needs to change before release or open beta. why it still counts in a combo or with card effects is just so stupid
I agree, but they are probably afraid it will give whoever goes first an ever larger win/loss ratio. So what can they do?
wtf is going on....as a rogue this is such massive disadvantage
I hate it when I play a rogue and they have the coin. 99% of the time, they somehow draw one of those Defias cards in their opening hand.
So basically you saying that having the coin as a rogue is a necessity for the class?
unless you have a backstab in ur early hand ur opener is pretty shit and u spend most of the mid game playing catchup
If you see you're going first, and you don't have anything to combo off of, it's usually best to mulligan and try and get a faster hand. Defias Ringleader isn't a necessity early on. I win games as Rogue just fine when i go first.
Isn't going first a good thing?
Just a heads up, if they know they are playing second - then they are actually mulliganing for that specific card, which means they are have 8 chances out of 15 cards (since they have 2), so thats greater than a 50/50 chance it will be there + the chance of drawing it as their first card.
If you want 1 specific card and your deck has 2, mulliganing gives a reasonable chance of getting a specific card if you invest your entire hand.
Nozdormu wins you every game where you opponent has to go to the bathroom on turn 9.
According to Blizzards data the answer is yes for everyone except Rogues.
Nozdormu wins you every game where you opponent has to go to the bathroom on turn 9.
When people whine about certain game disadvantages its kinda annoying. Kingbaboon or whatever your name is, Learn the game and you wont see going first as a rogue a disadvantage cause normally when you play your combo's early you waist them considering every class has early game removals and/or summoner spells on top of that. Your statement makes me believer your a month or newer in and or you don't play much. My advice to you bud is to think positive, play the game cause its fine and don't act like a spoiled brat that didn't get his way :P
im a rank 6 priest main, lol try again
I got ranked 10 in five days bro. pls don't pass your stupidity off due to a falty ranking system. BTW even though rank 6 is nothing to be proud of, you stating that your a priest on top of that makes me believe your lying and you watch too much kripp. Kingbabar are you the type to hide behind someone with the shotgun and brag about the bear mounted on your wall?
No, according to Blizzard the answer is yes for everyone INCLUDING Rogues.
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@OP: Chance of going first 9 times in a row is 1 in 512; since there are many people playing then there will be quite a few people experiencing this (or going second 9 times in a row) every day.
You should be happy though - it gives you an advantage, albeit slight. Unless you've made a deck which not only requires certain cards in your opening hand to do well, but also requires you to go second. Then, of course, you can expect to lose often...
I'll be honest, I don't mind the fact that the luck of the draw can give or take a 1.3% advantage from me in a game, it's called "luck of the draw", the game starts at coin toss, and that's almost negligible, to be fair there are decks who are much stronger going second that rely mostly on the fact that the coin is a spell and/or combos, but I digress. In the current meta, I don't think the coin makes a big difference. Something that I also believe, is that the earlier you play the coin, the faster you'll get on the upper hand and the higher your chances of winning are.
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Defias Ringleader is good, no denying that, but most rogue decks run a plethora of 1's and 2's in case they go first or they can't combo off. Most of them actually curve on the 2 drops
Argent Squire, Faerie Dragon, Loot Hoarder, Gnomish Engineer, Mad Bomber, Knife Juggler etc. Hell, T2 weapon even works most of the time. All of these see some play.
Rely less on a gimmick, and more on the deck as a whole.
so ranked is a test of skill unless the person is me? lol stay in school kid
Kingbabar and mvmt can you please stop having a dick measuring contest over a children s card game, we get it, your both tough now stop.
best class for going second is rogue or any class with pyro or gadget. coin is a broken mechanic that needs to change before release or open beta. why it still counts in a combo or with card effects is just so stupid
I just think its funny when people state their rank like they think they are good. and most of the time the people that are so quick to say "Im ranked six brahhhh" are the ones that didn't have enough attention as a child and are striving to be cool over the internet even though they are still ranked 20
Statistically speaking on a whole going 1st is better, but that doesn't say anything about a particular class.
Coin defias is so strong, it very well may be the opposite.
This game takes like no skill dude...
Are we supposed to be impressed by your epeen for supposedly calling people out. He isn't bragging, you are just being a douche. So STFU, and stick your tictac back in your pants.
I agree, but they are probably afraid it will give whoever goes first an ever larger win/loss ratio. So what can they do?