I've been saving a bit and came up with 1400 gold and 8400 dust Since I don't have full BRM Adventure (I was planning just buy it with $) and missing some cards from all expansions, should I go for Adventure with gold or buy 14 packs and then craft what I want? I was thinking a long time to craft Raza the Chained and Shadowreaper Anduin, but since it's going in Wild pretty soon (Which I want to start play) I'm a bit questioning, will it still be good to do so. Any advice you can give me?
Missing some of the highlander priest legendaries. Prophet velen isn't in all highlander priest but was playing in all 16 highlander priest lineups at HCT
1.) Since I don't have full BRM Adventure (I was planning just buy it with $) and missing some cards from all expansions, should I go for Adventure with gold or buy 14 packs and then craft what I want?
I think you should ask yourself if you should buy BRM now or wait latter. You have 5 legendaries in dust. I think now is a pretty safe time if you are interested in any of these cards:
I think Flamewaker is a very good card to have and its nice to know exactly where you gold is going into... it might be a good time for you but will you use these cards (tavern brawl, adventures, fireside gathering, vs friends, wild?) I would suggest paying gold for the adventure...
I'm not sure it is worth it.
2.) I was thinking a long time to craft Raza the Chained and Shadowreaper Anduin, but since it's going in Wild pretty soon (Which I want to start play) I'm a bit questioning, will it still be good to do so.
Are you a standard only player?
I love this combo but i feel like you benefit from having the classic legendary. I think that this set is very powerful (plus kazakus). Once in wild you have Reno. This set up may grow with additional one off cards making the deck a slow wallet hero. You pay along the way with small changes to the deck.
Just so you know, a new guide is on the way. All legendaries, including wild ones, will be listed from Tier S (only Patches the Pirate atm. IMO) and then tier 1-5. If you have suggestions as to which belong where, please post them here, we will read them!
1.) Since I don't have full BRM Adventure (I was planning just buy it with $) and missing some cards from all expansions, should I go for Adventure with gold or buy 14 packs and then craft what I want?
I think you should ask yourself if you should buy BRM now or wait latter. You have 5 legendaries in dust. I think now is a pretty safe time if you are interested in any of these cards:
I think Flamewaker is a very good card to have and its nice to know exactly where you gold is going into... it might be a good time for you but will you use these cards (tavern brawl, adventures, fireside gathering, vs friends, wild?) I would suggest paying gold for the adventure...
I'm not sure it is worth it.
2.) I was thinking a long time to craft Raza the Chained and Shadowreaper Anduin, but since it's going in Wild pretty soon (Which I want to start play) I'm a bit questioning, will it still be good to do so.
Are you a standard only player?
I love this combo but i feel like you benefit from having the classic legendary. I think that this set is very powerful (plus kazakus). Once in wild you have Reno. This set up may grow with additional one off cards making the deck a slow wallet hero. You pay along the way with small changes to the deck.
I will think more about the whole situation, thank you so much for putting time in this answer!
1.) Since I don't have full BRM Adventure (I was planning just buy it with $) and missing some cards from all expansions, should I go for Adventure with gold or buy 14 packs and then craft what I want?
I think you should ask yourself if you should buy BRM now or wait latter. You have 5 legendaries in dust. I think now is a pretty safe time if you are interested in any of these cards:
I think Flamewaker is a very good card to have and its nice to know exactly where you gold is going into... it might be a good time for you but will you use these cards (tavern brawl, adventures, fireside gathering, vs friends, wild?) I would suggest paying gold for the adventure...
I'm not sure it is worth it.
2.) I was thinking a long time to craft Raza the Chained and Shadowreaper Anduin, but since it's going in Wild pretty soon (Which I want to start play) I'm a bit questioning, will it still be good to do so.
Are you a standard only player?
I love this combo but i feel like you benefit from having the classic legendary. I think that this set is very powerful (plus kazakus). Once in wild you have Reno. This set up may grow with additional one off cards making the deck a slow wallet hero. You pay along the way with small changes to the deck.
I will think more about the whole situation, thank you so much for putting time in this answer!
actually I just played against highlander in wild, emperor thaurissan allows you even easier to do the otk.
I've been saving a bit and came up with 1400 gold and 8400 dust Since I don't have full BRM Adventure (I was planning just buy it with $) and missing some cards from all expansions, should I go for Adventure with gold or buy 14 packs and then craft what I want? I was thinking a long time to craft Raza the Chained and Shadowreaper Anduin, but since it's going in Wild pretty soon (Which I want to start play) I'm a bit questioning, will it still be good to do so. Any advice you can give me?
If you want to spend money on the game, i think the adventures are cheaper then buying packs. 700 gold (1 wing) gives you 7 packs, but if you compare the amount of money you pay for them its less then the amount of money you pay per pack if you buy the largest amount of card packs.
So if you plan on spending money anyway, spending the gold on card packs and using money to buy the adventure is the best deal imho.
If you plan on playing wild anyway there is no reason to not craft Raza and DK as them rotating out at some point seems to be the major reason for some to not craft it.
Hi, if you know me and my posts, you should expect to advice you to safe the dust for the upcoming expansion. Gadgetzan was released on the 1st of December, so the next one should also be somewhere then. The thing is you are kinda taking a risk here. The meta we all know will change in a month, so it's not really certain which cards will stay popular, which will become such and which will fade out. So be catious.
Anyway back to your question - if you ask me the best card to craft is Frost Lich Jaina, followed by Medivh, the Guardian (if you are like me, who cares about cards rotating out to wild - then craft Alexstrasza instead, although she might be a candidate for HoF, so yeah...).
A bit more detailed description:
Kun the Forgotten King, Deathwing, Dragonlord - I read you aim to have fun, but if you ask me, very specific, specific decks actually profit from those 2 cards. Kun is an idea better than the Dragonlord, because I remember it was used in some wacky combo dudu decks too. But other than that I don't see it as an impactful card, which is worth the craft.
Alexstrasza - tbh for now I see her only being good in mage decks, aka as a class specific card. I tried her in KoFT warlock, but she was too slow. In mage on the other hand, as you already said, you can use her in freeze, quest mage and even in control mage. For the last part you obviously need Jaina, so I will jump right into it.
Frost Lich Jaina - I also spammed in this forum before, also searching for people's opinion about fun and strong legendary cards to craft. I wanted to craft Jaina (and Valeera the Hollow) and at the end I found what I was searching for. If you ask me she is the most fun to play card from all of your suggestions - a buff to elemental and control decks, as once you get those Water Elementals going, you practically control the board. In wild you can even make greedy value ones, where the DK shines a lot. I don't know how control mage will perform in the next expansion, but once the rotation hits, there won't be any jades, Razas or even some combo decks anymore.
Medivh, the Guardian - although the next rotation is about to come in 5 months, this would be my exception and I could advice you to craft him. Very good in Jade dudu, Handlock, Control priest and mage (both standard and wild). Fun and a strong card, people don't run weapon removals, sooo he is a nice inclusion in current decks too.
In all honesty, I don't know how the next meta will turn out to be. I will always think, that Prophet Velen is more of a meta specific card, so I would say don't craft him, even though he is a staple in current HIghlander priest decks. Tbh I don't remember the last time I saw the priest's classic legendary being used. Maybe somewhere back in LoE, when control priest had all the strong wild cards (and the card pool was small).
Lyra on the other hand proved to be a safe craft due to various reasons. She was strong in silence priest, in control, in miracle and I even believe, that in some dragon decks she was also included. Not to mention in current Raza priest. Soo she will definitely be strong in the next expansion, my money on that.
Quote from DannyJi>> Let me ask you, I opened Jaraxxus from a free pack yesterday, only to realise no one plays him. Whats your feeling on him? Is he dust?
I'm gonna try him for a while, but yeah... feels bad I open all the 'Old School' Legendary's. A few days ago I opened Twin Emperor Vek'lor, at least he seems rather playable and I like C'Thun so. :)
One question? Is Antonidas only worth 400 dust? Or Tirion, Edwin? Jarr is more than a keep; just because he isn't seeing any play atm, that doesn't mean that he is weak or useless in general. If I could add - the reason why he doesn't see any play, is because of burn decks (mage, raza priest) and lack of good heal. The DK just replaced him for now, as he provides us the needed tools and having two really expensive cards, which bump each other, will obviously make your deck clunky, but I'm more than optimistic about his future.
If I can remind us something - Jarraxus was played in every single control warlock deck before Un'goro*. When that expansion was released warlocks in general were a weak class, so it's no wonder that even the best legies couldn't save them. Like I said above - right now we desperately use all the present resources just to survive. Jarraxus is a fine, perfectly designed strong, win-condition card, which sadly can't shine in the current meta. If there were less burn decks, then, trust me, priests dealing with constant 6/6s would have been a huge problem for them.
One last thing to mention - as I expressed my opinion in my post above, sometimes you see some classic legies seing a lot of play, but that won't last for long. The example is with Prophet Velen, Al'Akir the Windlord, Grommash Hellscream. I honestly can't recall the last time I saw the priest legendary being used. Maybe somewhere back in LoE or in the lower ranks in WotoG. 4 expansions passed since then - WotoG, OniK (the lowest point of priest), MSoG (dragon or some Djinn decks), Ungoro (control, dragon, silence, miracle, but Velen was nowhere to be seen) and only in KoFT (only in Highlander), because of a temporaty interaction, which is doomed to rotate out soon. Same for Al'akir, which saw some play back in Karazhan, maybe in some mid-range decks in Gadgetzan for the 10 burst damage with Flametongue Totem. And sadly I have to mention the warriors' beloved legendary now become extremely unpopular due to better win-conditions. The point is - those cards perform well only in specific metas, whereas the examples in the first paragraph were always good standalone ones.
*Note - Renolock was still a thing in Ungoro. Soo yeah. Wild format, but that doesn't change my point.
In all honesty, I don't know how the next meta will turn out to be. I will always think, that Prophet Velen is more of a meta specific card, so I would say don't craft him, even though he is a staple in current HIghlander priest decks. Tbh I don't remember the last time I saw the priest's classic legendary being used. Maybe somewhere back in LoE, when control priest had all the strong wild cards (and the card pool was small).
Lyra on the other hand proved to be a safe craft due to various reasons. She was strong in silence priest, in control, in miracle and I even believe, that in some dragon decks she was also included. Not to mention in current Raza priest. Soo she will definitely be strong in the next expansion, my money on that.
I agree with this thoughtful post. However, if you are _only_ looking at highlander priest, I think Velen is a more important card to that deck than Lyra. There's also the argument that Velen will never rotate out, where Lyra will rotate at some point.
All that said, I still think Lyra is probably the smarter card to craft, for the reasons you outlined. I just wanted to help Allankap5 make an informed decision by posting the counterarguments.
I agree with this thoughtful post. However, if you are _only_ looking at highlander priest, I think Velen is a more important card to that deck than Lyra. There's also the argument that Velen will never rotate out, where Lyra will rotate at some point.
All that said, I still think Lyra is probably the smarter card to craft, for the reasons you outlined. I just wanted to help Allankap5 make an informed decision by posting the counterarguments.
I'm not going to disagree on what you said. Maybe I wasn't objective enough and I should have went through all the sides of the card - the advantages and the disadvantages. But it's mainly because I only see him being good in that deck and nowhere else.
I if you are _only_ looking at highlander priest
If there is no other dominant deck other than the Highlander Priest for the remaining 5 months or if Highlander Priest is unmatched, then yes, maybe considering crafting Prophet Velen would make sense*. However due to my experienve versus Priest decks in the past, I haven't really seen Velen pop up that often or at all for that matter. For me Velen would only be a considerable choice in combo decks like the current Highlander list. But other than that I wouldn't include him even in normal control ones, because there are other cards, which replace him. You have Reno Jackson in wild for a huge heal, Shadowreaper Anduin, Dragonfire Potion or Lightbomb for a massic board clear, Elise the Trailblazer, Lyra the Sunshard etc etc for out-valuing your opponent. And atm Velen only sees play, because ppl found a way to abuse the self-refreshing free Hero Power - making a lot of burst in a single turn. Remove this little fact and combo-ing those cards is really impossible without any form of mana reduction. Velen isn't a win-condition on its own, while Tirion Fordring, Archmage Antonidas and even Lord Jaraxxus are good as standalone cards.
So unless we see some support for combo decks with cheap combos!!!, I don't think there would be a need for Velen, as priest's primary win-condition is keeping board control and out-valuing the opponent. But I may have to mention, that due to the next rotation priests will lose a lot of their powerful tools, so maybe some old school board clear combos might return (Auchenai Soulpriest + Circle of Healing), where Velen would help a bit.
*Note - While, yes, Lyra is also doomed to rotate out of standard, this won't occur that soon as she was introduced in Ungoro, aka early post-rotation, but Gadgetzan with its Raza the Chained and Kazakus is starting to crumble. Raza priest won't live that long and so the need for Velen, like we both agreed. So not crafting him and saving the dust for a month is imho something rational to do. That is until we see the next set, then people can decide for themselves.
When i see several people use the word recraft in the posts on this page i tend to think some people might DE cards ab it fast.
The mere fact a card hasn't been used last month or even 2 months doesn't make it a terrible card worth DE'ing. I can understand DE'ing cards that have never been used, but Medivh and Jaraxxus have been used a lot in the past.
Everytime you DE and recraft a legendary you lose 1200 dust, so you need to be real sure you won't ever need that card again before DE'ing it.
I agree with this thoughtful post. However, if you are _only_ looking at highlander priest, I think Velen is a more important card to that deck than Lyra. There's also the argument that Velen will never rotate out, where Lyra will rotate at some point.
All that said, I still think Lyra is probably the smarter card to craft, for the reasons you outlined. I just wanted to help Allankap5 make an informed decision by posting the counterarguments.
I'm not going to disagree on what you said. Maybe I wasn't objective enough and I should have went through all the sides of the card - the advantages and the disadvantages. But it's mainly because I only see him being good in that deck and nowhere else.
[snip lots more thoughful posting]
Agreed 100% my friend, I think we are on the same page here. :)
I've been saving a bit and came up with 1400 gold and 8400 dust
Since I don't have full BRM Adventure (I was planning just buy it with $) and missing some cards from all expansions, should I go for Adventure with gold or buy 14 packs and then craft what I want? I was thinking a long time to craft Raza the Chained and Shadowreaper Anduin, but since it's going in Wild pretty soon (Which I want to start play) I'm a bit questioning, will it still be good to do so. Any advice you can give me?
Hmm... I would wait a little more for more input from others... but yes one of those should be the way to go.Others have spoken.
Missing some of the highlander priest legendaries. Prophet velen isn't in all highlander priest but was playing in all 16 highlander priest lineups at HCT
I think that there are two parts here.
1.) Since I don't have full BRM Adventure (I was planning just buy it with $) and missing some cards from all expansions, should I go for Adventure with gold or buy 14 packs and then craft what I want?
I think you should ask yourself if you should buy BRM now or wait latter. You have 5 legendaries in dust. I think now is a pretty safe time if you are interested in any of these cards:
Imp Gang Boss, Dragon Consort, Flamewaker, Blackwing Corruptor, Fireguard Destroyer, Chromaggus, Lava Shock, Demonwrath
Dark Iron Skulker and Twilight Whelp isn't bad to have in your collection either.
Two wings have pretty bad legendaries: Majordomo Executus & Rend Blackhand
I think that the last wing only really offers Blackwing Corruptor.
I think Flamewaker is a very good card to have and its nice to know exactly where you gold is going into... it might be a good time for you but will you use these cards (tavern brawl, adventures, fireside gathering, vs friends, wild?) I would suggest paying gold for the adventure...
I'm not sure it is worth it.
2.) I was thinking a long time to craft Raza the Chained and Shadowreaper Anduin, but since it's going in Wild pretty soon (Which I want to start play) I'm a bit questioning, will it still be good to do so.
Are you a standard only player?
I love this combo but i feel like you benefit from having the classic legendary. I think that this set is very powerful (plus kazakus). Once in wild you have Reno. This set up may grow with additional one off cards making the deck a slow wallet hero. You pay along the way with small changes to the deck.
Just so you know, a new guide is on the way. All legendaries, including wild ones, will be listed from Tier S (only Patches the Pirate atm. IMO) and then tier 1-5. If you have suggestions as to which belong where, please post them here, we will read them!
Editor of the Heartpwn Legendary Crafting Guide:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/card-discussion/205920-legendary-tier-list-crafting-guide
700 gold (1 wing) gives you 7 packs, but if you compare the amount of money you pay for them its less then the amount of money you pay per pack if you buy the largest amount of card packs.
Should I craft Lyra the Sunshard or Prophet Velenfor Highlander Priest.
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When i see several people use the word recraft in the posts on this page i tend to think some people might DE cards ab it fast.
The mere fact a card hasn't been used last month or even 2 months doesn't make it a terrible card worth DE'ing.
I can understand DE'ing cards that have never been used, but Medivh and Jaraxxus have been used a lot in the past.
Everytime you DE and recraft a legendary you lose 1200 dust, so you need to be real sure you won't ever need that card again before DE'ing it.
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