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Quote from jokujunahi >>

I have no idea why people are making this so hard.

When player ends the game, it shows you the rank you achieved. Both players were shown 115, so shouldn't that matter? I assume Forsen was dropped to 116 because there can't be 2 115, but for that brief moment, the game said he had achieved that rank.

Also, people are really mad that last game was concede, and think it was unfair. There are many reasons why that is actually bs, but the biggest reason is that the whole tournament is played around random people from the internet. If the enemy decides to lose, of course it should matter, no matter how "unfair" you think it feels. If you want to avoid that, don't make tournament around random people. I mean, people were having fun and didn't take the thing too seriously but when the last game is concede that suddenly changes everything and now we should take the tournament more seriously and say the conceded win shouldn't matter.

This.

For as long as there is a concede button, and the opponent is not bound by rules of the tournament, the participants of the tournament can't be punished by opponents conceding.

What if an opponent conceded with lethal in hand, instead of lethal on the board..?
We'd never know.

What if an opponent has healing, and concedes even though he could've won..?
We'd never know.

What if an opponent has a secret in play that will prevent lethal, and concede anyway?
We'd never know.

What if a player loses focus on his board and only sees the potential for opponent lethal, and that he can't prevent it -- with lethal on board himself..?

We don't know how many times this happened to any of the streamers.
And what could the streamers do..?

The only way to avoid the problem would be:
Give each player an anonymous account, and record the 24 hours BEFORE broadcasting the 24 hours -- so that nobody can know the streamers names.

Seriously how can people be upset about this ? Both players deserves to win given how close they were at the end. Forsen won, good for him. It's not like he won a real tournament it's just a fun event.

Look I'm neutral on this because I don't even like Forsen, but after getting buttfucked last tournament, it's only fair that he won this one too. But damn, that was a 1 in 1 million chance of that happening. Like that's insane. It's almost as if Blizzard and RNG wanted to make up for the shit that he went through last time. But I think I read on Reddit that Forsen is giving Savjz the Money or something.

The money shouldn't even matter to forsen, I watched his stream and from donations and t-shirt sales he probably  made up the money.

Ridiculous ending. Savjz won that. 

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Quote from JacquesDupont >>

 during the untie matches between them, twice donators revealed Savjz's hand to Forsen with messages from the donations.

 

Really? :O

Yup. See for yourself:

http://imgur.com/a/GRtwN

Quote from futhead_melkertheboss >>

Forsen did consider giving him the win and said it was hard to feel he had won the tournament. 

He made a lot of money with donations and selling shirts. If he was a man he would do it not only because Savjz won but because his subscribers told him Savjz hand a few times. 

Can there please be a recap of what happened for those who didn't see it (like me)

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Quote from Pmanda >>

Can there please be a recap of what happened for those who didn't see it (like me)

+1

+2!

Savjz had a big lead for the whole tournament, he made legend after 19 hours only. He even stopped playing at around legend rank 350 and only started to play again when Forsen cought up. It was pretty close battle till the last games, there were lots of changes in the lead. Both of them waited for the final minute to queue up against their final opponent. Savjz won  and got legend rank 115. Forsen was up against one of his fans, the guy had lethal for multiple turns, but never killed him. He also ended up at rank 115, but right after he fell to 116 without playing, so Savjz's MMR was a bit higher. The rules said that they should play a BO3 and Forsen won that while his fans telling him Savjz's hand through donations. It was clear the Savjz played better through the tournament, but he was unlucky. It was exact opposite of the first tournament, so I think they got it even now.

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Quote from futhead_melkertheboss >>

Forsen did consider giving him the win and said it was hard to feel he had won the tournament. 

He made a lot of money with donations and selling shirts. If he was a man he would do it not only because Savjz won but because his subscribers told him Savjz hand a few times. 

Well during the last tournament, if SAVJZ was a man, he would've given the win to Forsen... So it's just fucking karma balancing everything out....

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Quote from Pmanda >>

Can there please be a recap of what happened for those who didn't see it (like me)

+1

+2!

• 24 hs marathon between some top players. The goal is to finish the highest on the ladder (among the participants). I'm not too sure about the initial conditions, but I think they created some new accuonts to play, and got offered several packs to open and create their decks to ladder.
• Remaining 1 minute to finish, both Forsen and Savjz decide to play one more (last) game. Savjz was ahead in the legend rank, but not by far, so anything can happen. If one player loses and the other wins, the winner is clear. But if they both lose or win, then they have to see how much they climb/fall to determinate the winner. 
• Savjz wins quickly his game (Zoo vs Priest) fair and square. Forsen (Face Hunter) is losing badly against some Druid player
• The Druid dude has lethal for like 3 turns, but he makes plays like not attacking or hitting himself with Keeper's of the Grove. Forsen can do the noble thing and conceade, but chooses not to and wintrades.
• Savjz had arrived to 115 stars when he won. It's time to see what's Forsen's magic number... 115!
• General confusion, wtf moments, etc. Then the numbers changed, which is obvious because there can't be 2 players tied with the same score. Savjz has 112 and Forsen 116. Which means Savjz should have won right there.
• Apparently, what's "important" for the organizers is the number they hit after they finish, which was 115. So they make up some rules to untie the situation. I stopped watching right there because of how bs everything was.
• So, someone correct me if the end is ok: Forsen wins the untie matches (with donators revealing him Savjz's hands, to add even some more bs to the formula), but then they change the rules again and decide that Savjz was the winner (really?)

There was conceding and on purpose roping throughout the entire tournament for all the players. Just because it happened during the last game doesn't mean the rest of it should be disregarded (like when Massan gave the win to Savjz)

they should have flipped a coin to decide or crown two winners (split price), if they can't do proper rules. The bo3 was just not fair to savjz considering he had a 30% matchup and Forsen got donations, that told him savjz exact hand.

You play to win, not for someone else's pretense of honor. I'm not a Forsen fan but as long as he didn't break the written rules, more power to him.

This ^^^ This si so true

Quote from Unforgiven_Joker >>

It's a shame to see all the tears from the fan bois of savilz, clearly he lost the tournament by far. Let's learn to read that rules. I congratulate the worthy pro game and player Forsen. Well played. You not only desevers the win, you earned fair and honost as well. A true champion of our time, i bow to you.

lol calls them fanboys, then proceeds to honor his lord and savior Forsen 

Honestly, you'd think they learned from the last tournament to have clear cut rules so that there'd be no debate about them like there was now.

The last match though i really thought Forsen just gets BM´ed. Then the casters tell sth. about if he wins maybe it goes into BO3 and then the enemy let Forsen win. I am sure he watched the stream and just wanted to troll around like "I made this happened".

Throughout the whole Tournament there were lots of Stream Snipers, Ropers etc. and everyone had the same problems. For a fun tournament you have to take that into account.

I enjoyed the tournament and never imagined they could reach legend in 24 hours. Those players are truly the Best of the Best.

The tournament was supposed to be a fun marathon race to the Legend but it ended up leaving a bad taste in mouth.

stupid nerds lmao