By now, people already know what Toki really is about. A merely meme card to be used for fun... right? Toki is one of the worst legendaries Mage has ever received. In terms of utility and fun. Not only brings zero sinergy with any of Mage's decks but also brings zero positivity on the game. She has no use besides being a meme and even then, she sucks.
In my opinion, not only she sucks in competitive game but she also sucks in the "meme/fun" aspect of the game. Obviously, the word "fun" is subjective but if we go objectively speaking, this card is just... is just a card.
This card will bring less funny moments than actual fun moments. What do you expect to get? Majordomo? Well, no, you got a Patches. Would you find funny in that? Or getting Nat Fisher? I don't think so. This card not only is massively inconsistent in competitive but also in Casino Mage.
A fun card is Deck of Wonder (I personally crafted 2 of these). Not only shuffles 5 random spells in your deck but it also doesnt interefere with your draw. And its much funnier to watch the spells go wild than getting a random legendary minion with no use or whatsoever.
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All in all, i am salty, absolutely. Mage is my favourite class and I always liked to play control but with the loss of many tool and specially ice block... At this rate, Mage will be the worst class. Only 3 cards were revealed and so I will try to be optimistic but if they plan to make Mage full on random class I will hate it. If this was their plan, then why rotate ice block in the first place?
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Well I think it's a meme card. All sorts of crazy stuff can happen when you pull cards from outside of Standard and bring them into Standard for one single game. Obviously it is not going to be super strong because you can't rely on the card but it will create some memorable moments at least 10 % of the time ;)
Personally I believe this card is ment to appeal to nostalgia. Something blizzard likes to do of late with their games.
That's said I see this card being played in arena as it may often end up being the best pick against lesser legendaries and it's a card generator, which is always good in arena.
On ladder, I think most have hit the nail on the head, a few hundred times, this is a meme card at best, it doesn't even pass the vanilla test. Ouch!
This sort of random this & random that used to be fun when it kicked off with LoE's golden monkey, but it kinda worn off, it's not really interesting anymore.
My question is how will she work when she is in wild eventually? Idk how you would change her, but I would prefer if they do when that day comes because a 6 mana 5/5 draw a random legendary... now that is boring
I tell you what sucks even as a meme card: Explore Un'Goro. A card that forces you to spend mana to make a sort of strictly more expensive arena deck.
This, in a full random mage deck, it's not extraordinary, but will work as another yolo element, similar to Sindragosa, except you can get screwwed or rewarded in different ways.
I am really dissapointed in the card but it is still fun. It has such a unique mechanic that it deserved to be a discover, but nevertheless if I pull it and I get a mage quest I will give it a whirl. I can see some fun moments arising but overall the card is a missed opportunity.
The original effect of the card probabily was "battlecry both players return x turns of this game", team 5 looks how the card ridiculous op is and changed with the shitty effect now has
By now, people already know what Toki really is about. A merely meme card to be used for fun... right?
In my opinion, not only she sucks in competitive game but she also sucks in the "meme/fun" aspect of the game. Obviously, the word "fun" is subjective but if we go objectively speaking, this card is just... is just a card.
This card will bring less funny moments than actual fun moments. What do you expect to get? Majordomo? Well, no, you got a Patches. Would you find funny in that? Or getting Nat Fisher? I don't think so. This card not only is massively inconsistent in competitive but also in Casino Mage.
A fun card is Deck of Wonder (I personally crafted 2 of these). Not only shuffles 5 random spells in your deck but it also doesnt interefere with your draw. And its much funnier to watch the spells go wild than getting a random legendary minion with no use or whatsoever.
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At the end, I am more salty to the fact they gave Mage a card with ZERO sinergy or interaction with any of Mage's decks.
Well, there is a precedent in Sindragosa (Frozen Champion) for this kind of effect, so i suppose it's not as random as it might seem lel :P
It's not strong, it's not particularly interesting, but the flavor is incredible. A time-traveling minion that pulls cards from wild? That's so freaking cool.
I tell you what sucks even as a meme card: Explore Un'Goro. A card that forces you to spend mana to make a sort of strictly more expensive arena deck.
This, in a full random mage deck, it's not extraordinary, but will work as another yolo element, similar to Sindragosa, except you can get screwwed or rewarded in different ways.
I dont rly see why would you play a mage deck with only one copy of each card, when kazakus is rotating out and you can just play Reno in Wild in the deck (i guess you could try fishing for second). So, this will probably not be as upsetting moment as you think when it happens :)
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I know this doesn't really fit THAT well, but this card does synergize with a mage card, that being Leyline Manipulator. I know its not a fun interaction, but it's something that fits into casino mage pretty decently.
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I don't have something witty about this deck, I just like it because Malygos is fun.
By now, people already know what Toki really is about. A merely meme card to be used for fun... right? Toki is one of the worst legendaries Mage has ever received. In terms of utility and fun. Not only brings zero sinergy with any of Mage's decks but also brings zero positivity on the game. She has no use besides being a meme and even then, she sucks.
In my opinion, not only she sucks in competitive game but she also sucks in the "meme/fun" aspect of the game. Obviously, the word "fun" is subjective but if we go objectively speaking, this card is just... is just a card.
This card will bring less funny moments than actual fun moments. What do you expect to get? Majordomo? Well, no, you got a Patches. Would you find funny in that? Or getting Nat Fisher? I don't think so. This card not only is massively inconsistent in competitive but also in Casino Mage.
A fun card is Deck of Wonder (I personally crafted 2 of these). Not only shuffles 5 random spells in your deck but it also doesnt interefere with your draw. And its much funnier to watch the spells go wild than getting a random legendary minion with no use or whatsoever.
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All in all, i am salty, absolutely. Mage is my favourite class and I always liked to play control but with the loss of many tool and specially ice block... At this rate, Mage will be the worst class. Only 3 cards were revealed and so I will try to be optimistic but if they plan to make Mage full on random class I will hate it. If this was their plan, then why rotate ice block in the first place?
Thank you for acknowledging your own flaws. You can't be criticised if you blame yourself first :)
Well I think it's a meme card. All sorts of crazy stuff can happen when you pull cards from outside of Standard and bring them into Standard for one single game. Obviously it is not going to be super strong because you can't rely on the card but it will create some memorable moments at least 10 % of the time ;)
Why does everyone opens a thread about each card? just post your opinion in the card discussion.
Personally I believe this card is ment to appeal to nostalgia. Something blizzard likes to do of late with their games.
That's said I see this card being played in arena as it may often end up being the best pick against lesser legendaries and it's a card generator, which is always good in arena.
On ladder, I think most have hit the nail on the head, a few hundred times, this is a meme card at best, it doesn't even pass the vanilla test. Ouch!
This sort of random this & random that used to be fun when it kicked off with LoE's golden monkey, but it kinda worn off, it's not really interesting anymore.
My question is how will she work when she is in wild eventually? Idk how you would change her, but I would prefer if they do when that day comes because a 6 mana 5/5 draw a random legendary... now that is boring
I tell you what sucks even as a meme card: Explore Un'Goro. A card that forces you to spend mana to make a sort of strictly more expensive arena deck.
This, in a full random mage deck, it's not extraordinary, but will work as another yolo element, similar to Sindragosa, except you can get screwwed or rewarded in different ways.
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I am really dissapointed in the card but it is still fun. It has such a unique mechanic that it deserved to be a discover, but nevertheless if I pull it and I get a mage quest I will give it a whirl. I can see some fun moments arising but overall the card is a missed opportunity.
Fair point. That's how I feel about Lilian Voss, too. Even for meme purposes, the payoff is usually underwhelming.
At the very least it seems like they could have made it a discover effect.
The original effect of the card probabily was "battlecry both players return x turns of this game", team 5 looks how the card ridiculous op is and changed with the shitty effect now has
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lol now people cry even about obvious meme card not beeing memy enough...in what exiting times we live in.
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It's not strong, it's not particularly interesting, but the flavor is incredible. A time-traveling minion that pulls cards from wild? That's so freaking cool.
Getting Reno Jackson - not funny moment at all
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She can be insane.
That's the keyword for meme cards. Can.
Yeah, you can get a MSoG or Karazhan legendary, but you can also get a GvG leggie or an Old God
Imagine dropping Gahz'rilla or Dr. Boom as a mage on turn 7 in Standard
Start of Year: Provoke the failure of 3 expansions, force nerfs on otherwise balanced cards, bring deckbuilding to an all-time low and get rotated one year earlier for being such a threat to the game's health.
- Genn and Baku's historical entry on the White Book of Shit Design, shortly before retiring unpunished
Why did you make TWO threads about this?
https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/214783-probably-the-worst-mages-legendary
I know this doesn't really fit THAT well, but this card does synergize with a mage card, that being Leyline Manipulator. I know its not a fun interaction, but it's something that fits into casino mage pretty decently.
I don't have something witty about this deck, I just like it because Malygos is fun.