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a decent addition to the silence priest

 

We get it Blizzard; Purify is not a joke.

Edit: Oh wait; if it's like the plant and can't be silenced it's probobly unusable.

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I wonder how it will work with evolve ...

if this can be silenced to attack i will be quitting the game.

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if this can be silenced to attack i will be quitting the game.

So I keep going back and forth on this... Its cool and a 20/20 for 4 mana BUT its REALLY slow (and always worthless against aggro and midrange)... its strong against control matchups (especially with classes that have a lot of card draw like Druid, Razakus, etc) BUT is super susceptible to singe removal (and there is a ton, especially in priest and warlock)... it really hurts Razakus decks BUT only if you play it before Raza the Chained comes out and then only until the second candle trips (its like a temporary and worse Skulking Geist)

I just don't think there is good reason to run this card competitively. I am sure we will see it A TON for a week or two and if I open it, I'm going to try and make this work... but I don't see a reason to craft this, except for the memes. 

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I think you mean buff.  If The Darkness is summoned (or recruited) the battlecry won't trigger, and it's the battlecry that makes it go dormant.  So if Sneed triggers and this guy shows up, Sneed just gave you a 20/20 minion.

This is also a big buff to any Big deck.  Because Y'Shaarj, Rage Unbound will also bring it out to your board as a 20/20.

 Read it again. 

"Starts dormant.  Battlecry: ....."

There is literally no way to put this into play without it being dormant, as there does not currently exist an effect that silences a card in your hand or deck.  As soon as it hits the board, the dormant status is active, THEN the battlecry triggers. 

 Yeah, I noticed that right after I clicked to submit the comment.  Edited it.  That's kind of shitty, but I guess it's needed to ensure Y'shaarj, Sneed, recruit, etc don't end up landing you a huge minion for cheap/free.

That means it's also a nerf to evolve on a 3-drop too.

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IMO this card will destroy Razakus from ever being played again,

just as much as Skukling Geist completely eradicated Jade Druid from being played. 

 so youre saying that the darkness doesnt stop razakus like people are saying

 No, because you're not going to run a 4-drop one-of just to stop a deck that is only part of the meta and doesn't have a strong wr anyways, and as a one-of you won't even be able to play it on 4 in most cases....and it starts dormant so you're wasting your turn when you play it against anything that isn't Razakus.  Unless the meta ends up being heavily control oriented (in which case, you won't even being playing The Darkness), can you really afford to do nothing on turn 4? 

Even if this is run in every deck as a hard counter to Razakus....this merely delays it from happening, or at worst slows it down.  Raza/Kazakus is inactive until you draw the 3 candles, but Priest can still cycle through their deck quickly to either draw them and then use SWD on The Darkness, or just ignore it and play SRA anyways and still slowly gun you down.  

Maybe The Darkness makes Razakus a bit more fair, but I don't think it will stop it from being played. 

edit: Must make a correction, just TWO of the candles need to be drawn in order for Raza/Kazakus to be active again, not three. 

It's amazing how at page 25, people still going with "silence it" or "recruit it". No surprise that HS community is pretty ridicolous if so many people can't understand four lines of simple text.

Anyway this card will not counter Razakus, just slow it down. Considering that in lots of matchups the deck will almost go to fatigue this means that probably it won't work as a total counter but just as a soft one. As other tech cards it will be a dead draw in any other situation, too slow versus aggro and mirange and the minion itself is subjected to hard removal so also control can deal with it once awakened.

Hello Nat, the Darkfisher after a Murmuring Elemental + The Darkness combo, and Coldlight Oracle (+ Murmuring Elemental) for helping all of this.

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Sneed's nerf :(

 I think you mean buff.  If The Darkness is summoned (or recruited) the battlecry won't trigger, and it's the battlecry that makes it go dormant.  So if Sneed triggers and this guy shows up, Sneed just gave you a 20/20 minion.

This is also a big buff to any Big deck.  Because Y'Shaarj, Rage Unbound will also bring it out to your board as a 20/20.

 If it works that way, this card is broken in so many ways that it can't realistically work that way. Recruit? Dirty rat? Big? Doesn't parse that way to me, as "starts Dormant" is above the battlecry text, and not part of it.

Don't know if it's been mentioned (in 26 pages...) but isn't the problem with running this in a mill deck that overdrawn cards don't count as being drawn?

So if you make your opponent overdraw one of the 3 candles, this thing never awakes? Plus you have helped them with giving them 3 extra cards?

That's legitimately a neat idea.  Remains to be seen if it'll be just a power boost to mill or real decks can use it :P

Would Twisting Nether remove this before it triggers?

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Would Twisting Nether remove this before it triggers?

I'm gonna craft it gold. HI RAZAKUS.

How, on page 25, do we still have people suggesting this could be Evolved into or Silenced or Recruited or Twisting Nether'd or ANYTHING. Sherazin has been out for so long, we know how this mechanic works. 

Only question I have about this would be does the candle force you to spend mana to cast the card.  The wording of the card differs from Beneath the grounds as in that card cites "when drawn" while darkness candle cites "cast this".

Sorry if already answered somewhere in the thread - at work and cannot dig thru 520 posts to see if someone answered this already.

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Only question I have about this would be does the candle force you to spend mana to cast the card.  The wording of the card differs from Beneath the grounds as in that card cites "when drawn" while darkness candle cites "cast this".

Sorry if already answered somewhere in the thread - at work and cannot dig thru 520 posts to see if someone answered this already.

 

Too bad, that might have made it a little easier to see play since it could gimp your opponent's turn at a key moment with some luck.