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If you want to suggest a nerf, don't suggest a direct nerf - suggest a tech card that interrupts it, like how Skulking Geist works. 

Something like a minion with battlecry: Hero powers cost 2 more this game, or minion with text "Both players can only play one card each turn," or "Spells in both players hands cost 10 mana."  Stuff like that.  Not saying those ideas are good or balanced, but that's how you make a good change.  

 You have Mindbreaker but there's so many ways to remove him it's not even funny.

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suggest something else then

its not like mindbreaker is the one and only card that can ever exist to tech against razakus priest

 edit: why is it that no one gets the fucking point of my posts, am i taking crazy pills???  this thread is about SUGGESTIONS TO NERF RAZA/DK not "PLEASE LIST TECH CARDS FOR RAZA"  the way to nerf a card is not to directly nerf it, but to give alternative options, especially if the card itself is not broken. 

 How bout a 4/7 for 6 that reads whenever your opponent uses their hero power the cost of their next hero power increases by 2.  Hard to remove for priest at that point.  Or perhaps a card that has an effect that says, "Until the end of your next turn when a player uses a hero power they take 5 damage".  

Edit: Not that I think we need anything necessarily to specifically counter Anduin.  I would much prefer cards that naturally empower deck types that also naturally counter anduin.  Well that isn't entirely true since the biggest type of deck of that sort is aggro and I hate aggro.

 That is actually pretty insane, and only makes sense in the context of cards that change or refresh a hero power.  It shouldn't be that specific or that strong.  

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 It is pretty specific, well at least the first example is.  It's a bit on the nose perhaps.  Though to be frank I didn't think they'd make tech cards like this till I saw the new 4/6 eat all 1 mana spells.  That was pretty on the nose too.  I think it wouldn't be too bad though if you made the effect symmetrical so it affected both players.

The second example is a one off effect perhaps off a creature or spell that goes away.  Which makes it not too powerful and not to on the nose.  Considering we just got a bunch of legendaries that change hero powers, getting another card other than mindbreaker that dissuades the use of hero powers in someway doesn't seem all that out of the question.

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 It is pretty specific, well at least the first example is.  It's a bit on the nose perhaps.  Though to be frank I didn't think they'd make tech cards like this till I saw the new 4/6 eat all 1 mana spells.  That was pretty on the nose too.  I think it wouldn't be too bad though if you made the effect symmetrical so it affected both players.

The second example is a one off effect perhaps off a creature or spell that goes away.  Which makes it not too powerful and not to on the nose.  Considering we just got a bunch of legendaries that change hero powers, getting another card other than mindbreaker that dissuades the use of hero powers in someway doesn't seem all that out of the question.

 I mean....Skulking Geist likely was in response to Jade Idol, but its worded generically enough to have multiple applications (such as deck thinning yourself in the midgame, and ensuring you aren't going to be Potion of Madness'd).  

Bear with me here, but an already existing and kind of hilarious counter to Razakus machine gun is Mayor Noggenfogger. 

God dammit! It's a good control deck with a good win condition! Stop f'ing complaining! Youre having a hard time playing your aggro bulls**t so you're crying?? Deal with it, learn to use your head and play control

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 It is pretty specific, well at least the first example is.  It's a bit on the nose perhaps.  Though to be frank I didn't think they'd make tech cards like this till I saw the new 4/6 eat all 1 mana spells.  That was pretty on the nose too.  I think it wouldn't be too bad though if you made the effect symmetrical so it affected both players.

The second example is a one off effect perhaps off a creature or spell that goes away.  Which makes it not too powerful and not to on the nose.  Considering we just got a bunch of legendaries that change hero powers, getting another card other than mindbreaker that dissuades the use of hero powers in someway doesn't seem all that out of the question.

 I mean....Skulking Geist likely was in response to Jade Idol, but its worded generically enough to have multiple applications (such as deck thinning yourself in the midgame, and ensuring you aren't going to be Potion of Madness'd).  

Bear with me here, but an already existing and kind of hilarious counter to Razakus machine gun is Mayor Noggenfogger. 

 Ha, that is true.  It's just that, no one is gonna run him as Razakus priest doens't warrant such an extreme counter, and now we have come full circle, Razakus priest just doesn't need much of a counter right now cause it isn't as oppressive as everyone thinks.

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 Ha, that is true.  It's just that, no one is gonna run him as Razakus priest doens't warrant such an extreme counter, and now we have come full circle, Razakus priest just doesn't need much of a counter right now cause it isn't as oppressive as everyone thinks.

 This just gave me an idea for a combo in Wild.  

Recruiter -> make a bunch of 1 mana 2/2s

Emperor -> make them all cost zero

Drop Noggenfogger and a bunch of zero cost 2/2s

?????

 Or you just run Recruiter and Emperor without Noggenfogger in your highlander priest and use the recruiters tokens to fuel your machine gun forever...

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 Ha, that is true.  It's just that, no one is gonna run him as Razakus priest doens't warrant such an extreme counter, and now we have come full circle, Razakus priest just doesn't need much of a counter right now cause it isn't as oppressive as everyone thinks.

 This just gave me an idea for a combo in Wild.  

Recruiter -> make a bunch of 1 mana 2/2s

Emperor -> make them all cost zero

Drop Noggenfogger and a bunch of zero cost 2/2s

?????

 Or you just run Recruiter and Emperor without Noggenfogger in your highlander priest and use the recruiters tokens to fuel your machine gun forever...

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Fatigue Warrior craps on Razakus

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Fatigue Warrior craps on Razakus

 I have literally never lost a game to fatigue warrior... I have no idea how that deck would beat Highlander Priest.

the current problem with the deck right now is the ability to burst you from 32 only using 3 cards after raza+ anduin. and the FACT that the bigger the card pool is the stronger are singletons/highlander decks.

So I expect razakus priest to be god tier next expansion unless they give priest warlock level of terrible cards or another "druid" appears.

think the deck while oppressove to an extend HAS counter play and stuff you can do that matter.

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the current problem with the deck right now is the ability to burst you from 32 only using 3 cards after raza+ anduin. and the FACT that the bigger the card pool is the stronger are singletons/highlander decks.

So I expect razakus priest to be god tier next expansion unless they give priest warlock level of terrible cards or another "druid" appears.

think the deck while oppressove to an extend HAS counter play and stuff you can do that matter.

There are currently a lot of ways to screw up Razakus Priest. The deck relies on: 

• Trading essentially all early game for card draw
• Having a lot of cards in hand
• Powerful battlecries
• Clearing the board of 5 health or less non dragon minions
• A tempo swinging turn 8 board clear of 5+ attack minions
• 1x of every card in their deck
• Enemy minions don't have 4 attack
• Ability to target things

So ways you can screw them up: 

• Sonic the Hedgehog (gotta go fast)
• Discard their hand via Howlfiend + Treachery
• Dirty Rat their Curious Glimmerroot/Kazakus/Raza the Chained
• Mill
• Have a lot of high health minions
• Dragons (specifically stuff like Ysera, Malygos, etc) 
• Force them to drop the DK going into turn 8 before you drop a bunch of beefy minions/Bonemare
• Weasel Tunneler (or in Wild, Excavated Evil) to screw up their highlander nature
• Literally any 4-attack minion
• The best card in the game, Mayor Noggenfogger

Be creative, yall. 

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There are currently a lot of ways to screw up Razakus Priest. The deck relies on: 

• Trading essentially all early game for card draw
• Having a lot of cards in hand
• Powerful battlecries
• Clearing the board of 5 health or less non dragon minions
• A tempo swinging turn 8 board clear of 5+ attack minions
• 1x of every card in their deck
• Enemy minions don't have 4 attack
• Ability to target things

So ways you can screw them up: 

• Sonic the Hedgehog (gotta go fast)
• Discard their hand via Howlfiend + Treachery
• Dirty Rat their Curious Glimmerroot/Kazakus/Raza the Chained
• Mill
• Have a lot of high health minions
• Dragons (specifically stuff like Ysera, Malygos, etc) 
• Force them to drop the DK going into turn 8 before you drop a bunch of beefy minions/Bonemare
• Weasel Tunneler (or in Wild, Excavated Evil) to screw up their highlander nature
• Literally any 4-attack minion
• The best card in the game, Mayor Noggenfogger

Be creative, yall. 

You're going to have bad matchups no matter what deck you play.  If a deck was ever favored against the entire meta, it would be nerfed pretty quickly. 

FYI Razakus Priest isn't good against some current top decks (that aren't Quest Mage btw).  Not to mention the multiple other weaknesses of the deck.  

This thread makes me sad.  You guys are better than this. 

this deck is better than mine, nerf it! BabyRage

even if blizzard nerf something they wouldnt nerf DK cause DK is a "ok" card without raza, and raza/kazakus are rotating out very soon

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this deck is better than mine, nerf it! BabyRage

even if blizzard nerf something they wouldnt nerf DK cause DK is a "ok" card without raza, and raza/kazakus are rotating out very soon

 

 

 

 

 

 

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very soon™

 6 months btw