too early to say if this will work, need to see more shaman freeze effects first.
Possible interesting combos include: Thing from Below at 0 mana with Cryostasis; Frost Shock (or any other freeze effect) on an enemy minion and then destroying it with Icebreaker possibly quite insane against certain high value minions, like Savannah Highmane; Cryostasis + Jade cards, tho the cost on Moorabi probably makes that difficult to pull off reliably.
As I see it now Spirit Echoes just seems better unless you really need to copy enemy minions
I mean at 8 mana you can play Thing from Below > Moorabi > Cryostasis > Thing from Below. Now you have and 8/8 taunt and 5/5 taunt protecting moorabi. Or you could Thing from Below > Moorabi > Frost Shock > Frost Shock > Thing from Below > Thing from Below. A lot of potential value here. It's a late game thing, obviously but this obviously go into a control deck as well, so getting to late game is the goal in the first place. I just hope shaman has enough tools to get us there. So far it's looking like there is a solid possibility.
I will admit, the above set up is slooooow, especially since you are freezing your own minions right. But it's just like making your and eating your own icee, take it slow or you get a brain freeze...okay that made no sense.
Comparing this card to Mistcaller is pointless.. Yes, they have the same garbage stats and cost and they don't impact the board on their own, but Mistcaller will NEVER impact the board the turn you play it, at best you will play one or two low cost minions with +1/+1.
When you play Moorabi with freezing cards on later turns, you will impact the board, because freeze impacts the board. You can do anything, it's an extremely versatile card. You can set up hard removal+steal with Ice Breaker (kind of an Entomb that puts the card directly into your hand) while you refill your hand with your own stuff for additionnal synergy if you're ahead or need more taunt, or refill your hand with ennemy minions while you freeze them if you need to stall. You didn't draw Ice Breaker ? Fine, you just set up a perfect Lightning Storm / Volcano on the next turn.
Wether shaman will be able to consistently get to turn 10+ to make this work in the upcoming meta or not is a different topic, Freeze shaman is clearly intended to be a slow, control archetype, but that doesn't mean it will be "too slow", as opposed to The Mistcaller, that will always require multiple turns to generate any significant value. Moorabi can generate game winning value over 2 turns. One of the reasons The Mistcaller is so bad that people tend to forget, is that midrange/control shaman needs to run a lot of spells, further reducing mistcaller value. I know from experience it's really difficult to run a slow shaman deck with very few spells.
Also, Shamans typically don't have many ways to draw cards. The ability to instantly refill your hand is very strong. Remember how Lyra was underrated ?
Want to point out this card can you a Lyra (multiples even). Imagine Lyra and moorabi on the board at the same time.
The other major difference with Mistcaller, and why it's a bad comparison, is that once Mistcaller is played it is just a 4/4. This new dude is mega-soft-taunt, like Fandral, Auctioneer, etc. That's a big difference because if you can yank even a single card from it and then entice a Fireball that would have otherwise gone to your grill, its value is already much higher than Mistcaller.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Standard Legend - July '16 (Rank 56), June '17, Dec. '18, Apr. '19
Wild Legend - Mar. '18 (Rank 30), Apr. '18, Aug. '19
Twelve Arena Wins - Shaman, Warlock, Mage x2, Rogue, Priest (12-0), Druid, Hallow's End x2, Hunter, Taverns of Time x3 (Pa,D,WL), Paladin
If shaman gets more freezing options that can fit the mana cost of this card for a 10 mana play it could be interesting, like a ''Freeze the board'' card.
And keep in mind we have yet to see DK thrall, which will have freeze synergy as well, most likely.
Yep. I plan on running an elemental package with moorabi with the weapon and voodoo hexer. See how it works. I am a bit worried about having enough card slots honestly cause I also want to throw in some healing as well. I also want to see what the shaman hero card is first :D.
If shaman gets one more low costed magic/minion with quick freeze effect, this CAN become a good deck and potentially a new archetype. Something like Lyra priest/miracle rogue. I don't think the archetype will be amazing, but maybe it is good enough to be playable for fun (like tier 3~ deck)
Amazing card. Just freeze the board turn 5, then play this turn 6.
that is the opposite of how this works, this copies them when they are frozen, it does not copy frozen minions when it is played.
I am super interested to see this played, the cryostasis synergy is kind of cool but requires a minion on board and a bunch of mana. maybe this will be really good, I voted meta defining just in case, because either this is useless and never sees play, or it is the thing that makes freeze shaman viable.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Just fill your deck with one drops, that is creative deck design, right?
If we get enough support to build a frost-oriented Control Shaman, N'zoth builds love making copies of big deathratlles etc.....
Excited to try it out.
I think that probably is the deck it works in , freeze plus volcano, etc. control generate value, profit? Freeze seems good in tandem with volcano too, freeze one guy and ait till the proper turn to volcano.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
Might enable some crazy combos, this one might be a hidden gem.
Far too slow...bad card, IMO. Significant stat penalty considering you also have to freeze another minion to gain just that card.
Seems bad but.. you know.. lyra seemed bad aswell you can set up a freeze with the 2/7 taunt so..
You need to draw 2 cards or 1 card and this to lure a premium removal for this card to be worth it.
10 mana 2 glacial shards and moorabi each glacial shard freezes the other generating more glacial shards lol seems bad but funny
The other major difference with Mistcaller, and why it's a bad comparison, is that once Mistcaller is played it is just a 4/4. This new dude is mega-soft-taunt, like Fandral, Auctioneer, etc. That's a big difference because if you can yank even a single card from it and then entice a Fireball that would have otherwise gone to your grill, its value is already much higher than Mistcaller.
Standard Legend - July '16 (Rank 56), June '17, Dec. '18, Apr. '19
Wild Legend - Mar. '18 (Rank 30), Apr. '18, Aug. '19
Twelve Arena Wins - Shaman, Warlock, Mage x2, Rogue, Priest (12-0), Druid, Hallow's End x2, Hunter, Taverns of Time x3 (Pa,D,WL), Paladin
It needs much more suport for it work, maybe in wild in some years.
My magic will tear you apart!
If we get enough support to build a frost-oriented Control Shaman, N'zoth builds love making copies of big deathratlles etc.....
Excited to try it out.
It's cool, but not enough freeze yet.
Oh wow, now this is value. Freeze Shaman's getting very real! Can't wait to see the rest of this archetype they're now promoting!
"What have you got there,
PinocchioMalygos?"If shaman gets more freezing options that can fit the mana cost of this card for a 10 mana play it could be interesting, like a ''Freeze the board'' card.
If shaman gets one more low costed magic/minion with quick freeze effect, this CAN become a good deck and potentially a new archetype. Something like Lyra priest/miracle rogue. I don't think the archetype will be amazing, but maybe it is good enough to be playable for fun (like tier 3~ deck)
Just fill your deck with one drops, that is creative deck design, right?
Freeze meta incoming
- LePatron
Not good. But kinda funny the lengths Blizz is going for Anti-Freeze Mage tech.
I think it's too anti-tempo as a general value card. I could be wrong. It's main use will be in developing a crazy synergistic value or win condition.