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I find it funny how Blizzard makes Legendary Cards useless and Common card like this totally broken Kappa
No it's not, 3 mana minions are worth 3 mana, 5/5 vanilla card is worth slightly higher than 4 mana. Also Forbidden Shaping is exactly that if you play it on turn 3/when you have 3 mana remaining.
Again ... why do people have a problem with this card, but not Savannah Highmane, Piloted Sky Golem
Either way if this is broken, so is Piloted Sky Golem, and if that's the case, why does't anyone play it?
That's because Blizzard has no fucking clue what they are doing with this expansion. New meta will be a giant RNG bullshit fest. Blizz really dropped the ball here after us having to deal with this horribly stale meta as it is right now and now we have another horrible meta coming our way we will have to put up with for months on end. GG Blizzard. Good luck getting people to play this trash expansion. So nice of them to trap people into paying 50.00 for a pre order, before they revealed all the absolute trash that they have to offer in WOTOG. Well played Blizzard. Corporate scum of the earth.
Do we have good options for 6 mana in a tempo deck?? We had a good addition for a 5 drop with Conjurer, but I can't remember nothing good with 6 mana...
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I'd argue that the difference is that Faceless Summoner summons the body right away. With the others, being deathrattles, the opponent has a bit of agency over how they sequence things (i.e, saving AoE until the Runt main body is killed, for example). Plus, with the deathrattle examples, you're only using half of those 'huge amount of stats' at a time, but with this card you'd get it all on the same turn.
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I'll be honest though, I can admit that it might not see play because it's "just a bunch of stats." But if I'm honest with myself, this card NOT being played would piss me off more than to see it becoming a staple mage card.
It'd be like seeing another guy get some high-end computer that you've been saving up for, only to throw away because "It's not good enough for me." I still think it's a stupidly powerful card for it's cost, but if Mages ditch it for 'only' being a 9 out of 10, when other classes would love to have such a card, that would be infuriating.
Nat Flippin-Pagle gets corrupted, but the Mighty Millhouse Manastorm doesn't?!
Death to the Darkfisher! \(' ^' )/
Well, it's interesting you say that, because I don't think it would be played much even if it were neutral. Ramp druid, maybe.
Look at it this way: There are only five class 6-drops that are ever played (Savannah Highmane, Cabal Shadow Priest, Mysterious Challenger, Shieldmaiden, Fire Elemental—okay, six if you count the occasional Iron Juggernaut fatigue deck). Is Faceless Summoner as strong as any of those? No.
How about neutrals? There are similarly few. Sylvanas Windrunner, Emperor Thaurissan, Justicar Trueheart, and Reno Jackson are most common. You also occasionally see Gadgetzan Auctioneer and The Black Knight. Most of these cards serve highly specific purposes that make them difficult to compare to Summoner (but that should be an extremely telling point about Summoner's viability—with very few exceptions, successful 6-drops have dramatic, game-changing effects). The most comparable card would probably be Sylvanas—solid body, scary deathrattle, usually played not for combo-wombo craziness but to establish board presence and threaten the opponent's board.
Is Faceless Summoner as good as Sylvanas? Hell no.
But none of these cards are both tempo-efficient and playable by mages ( Baring Thaurissan in Freeze mage maybe ; But to this deck it might as well be a 1/1, it'd still see play, really ). More importantly, you're forgetting Dr Boom. This card is not game changing ; It's just a big minion. But he's pure value, and almost no deck is afraid of putting him in, even as a 7 drop and with BGH being a mandatory card to anyone but the most low-cost ( mana-wise ) decks. But with him gone, I think there'll be a dramatic decrease of the value of going above 5 attack ( Because then almost no minion will require more to be dealt with ), and 5/5 will become an even sweetest spot.
I think this card will be tempo mage's Dr Boom ; It will have a king statline ( In Standard ), not be vulnerable to BGH, be a huge amount of value, and be even lower on the curve.
I think the best way to see how powerful this card is is to wonder what it takes to beat it. I play mainly rogue, and while Dr Boom can be dealt with with a BGH and fan of knives very efficiently, or Assassinate and HP ( Over 2 turns, so, not that great, really ), the only possible way to clear this would be HP, Deadly Poison, Blade Flurry, and pray for that 3 drop not to have more than 3 Health. Mage ? Flamestrike would most likely not do much, and Fireball + Frostbolt would not be sure to clear this ( And inefficient on top of it ). Warrior had a fair shot at this with Death's Bite ( And its deathrattle ) + Execute, but it's still somewhat clunky and going away in Standard. I can barely think of any class that would deal with this card remotely effciently and without the use of nigh-unplayable cards. Only Priest, with Lightbomb, but it's basically trading turn 6 without being sure of clearing the 3-drop and hurting your own board in the process, Shaman with Elemental Destruction and luck ( And even then you better have that anti-Overload card or you're not all that efficient, really ), or Fire Elemental and luck ( 'Cause 3-drops can easily have more than 3 mana ),
This is what makes me think this card will be insane : Not that it's that good per se, but that there is no actual way to efficiently deal with it, even with as-of-now rarely played cards. Litterally ANYTHING I could think of either involved utter trash cards ( Like, NEVER played ), required Wild cards, or couldn't deal with it efficiently and reliably. Except Sylvanas ; Hurray, there's one counter, and it's a legendary card !
FUN FACT: Faceless Summoner has Sylvanas Windrunner stats, comes with its second minion up-front, does not rely on the opponent's deck for its value, cannot be played around, and cannot be silenced.
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