If all classic cards become basic, then everyone gets a shit load of dust - either automatically, or by manually dusting them all the day before the change comes in. If people have more dust they don't to buy as many packs for the next expansion because they can craft more of what they need.
If all wild cards become basic then you get the same thing every single year - massive dust refunds on rotating cards, and therefore it's easier and cheaper for the player to stay up-to-date without buying as many packs.
So what you’re suggesting is be a greedy control warrior and add in Hakkar as well , kill it same turn with Shield slam and then next turn Archivist. I like it.
I always say "Well played", but I especially mean it:
1. When I know they have lethal in hand (not on the board) and that I can't prevent it, and I say "Well played" before I end my turn and let them kill me.
2. When I know that I have lethal in hand (not on the board) and that they have just ended their turn without being able to prevent it.
3. When it's both, and I end my turn knowing that if they don't kill me in their next turn, I will kill then in my next. "Well played" means "This game is over, one way or another, and it was close. Can you win, if not I will?"
I haven't been enjoying the ladder much this season, but I just - nearly too late - found the kind of deck I like. Controllish, off meta, decent win rate, no really polarised matchups.
I've just hit rank 5 with it, mostly on win streaks with occasional losses.
The weakness of a slow control deck with no real win condition is being killed by combo - usually Mecha'thun, these days. Putting Hakkar in as a tech card hard counters Mecha'thun, and also really helps against other combos that rely on drawing their deck quickly. If Hakkar gets silenced in a game, it's not the end of the world; we can still outvalue them in the normal way.
Worst matchup is deathrattle hunter. Odd mage can be ok. All other hunters and all Mecha'thun decks are easy meat.
I'll let you into a little secret - when your board is unfavorable for a Mass Hysteria - say you have three 1/1s and an 8/8 and the best case scenario is the 8/8 lives at 8/5 and it might be an 8/7... your opponent is NOT GOING TO PLAY MASS HYSTERIA, are they?
What happens when Mass Hysteria is played is random. When Mass Hysteria is played is not random.
I'm with you. I recognise that it's good and that the pros use it and so on, but I just hate discarding the unpicked cards. I know it's not rational, but I just don't include it in my decks, because I know that if I do it sits in my hand as a dead card because I don't play it.
So I thought I'd try res priest and threw together a deck. And after chucking in a bunch of spells I noticed that I'd forgotten to put in any minions except Obsidian Statue... and yet it worked:
Does the deck really need another minion? If you draw both statues before you can play Shadow Essence you're screwed, of course, but that's an acceptable risk.
Tried it and it's fine. I removed the Crowd Roaster though, Odd Paladin is the strongest deck atm, so I added Dragonmaw Scorchers instead. Also with Duskbreaker I found Mass Hysteria to sit in my hand doing nothing, so I replaced those with Twilight Drakes, to have a threat to play on my own. But overall the deck still works ;)
My v1 had scorchers because I hadn't crafted roasters. The deck it was based on - https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1195037-ez-clap - had Twilight Drakes, but they never won me a game, whilst not being able to clear a board because I didn't have or couldn't activate a Duskbreaker lost me plenty.
Wait, are you claiming this is your creation? Because this is the almost-standard Control Priest deck right now.
No, of course not. I found a control priest list showing a high winrate on the top decks thing here, played it last season, enjoyed it, updated it for the new expansion, and then, as I hadn't faced it even once and wasn't reading about how OP priest was and was winning easily with it and enjoying it, thought I'd mention it on the forums. "Here's a desk that doesn't seem to be much in the meta as far as I can tell and yet does well against it". That sort of thing.
I threw in some rumble cards because it feels bad to not use them, and the Firetree Witchdoctor is an obvious improvement over Power Word Shield - it's got a chance of giving you another Mind Blast or Shadow Visions, and it doesn't pollute the Shadow Visions pool making it less likely to draw a Mind Blast.
Once the PWS was gone, cutting Wild Pyro seemed sensible and that's where the Scorchers came in.
Twilight Drakes just seemed kind of nothingy to me. I guess they're one of the deck's few non-reactive plays, that you can stick on an empty board and not feel like you're losing value, but I want never glad to top-deck one, if you know what I mean.
I dusted some old gold cards I don't care about and crafted a pair of crowd roasters and replaced the scorchers with them. Crowd Roaster and Scaleworm serve the same purpose so with roasters in now cutting Scaleworms to make room for any other card makes sense to me.
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If all classic cards become basic, then everyone gets a shit load of dust - either automatically, or by manually dusting them all the day before the change comes in. If people have more dust they don't to buy as many packs for the next expansion because they can craft more of what they need.
If all wild cards become basic then you get the same thing every single year - massive dust refunds on rotating cards, and therefore it's easier and cheaper for the player to stay up-to-date without buying as many packs.
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I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch that. Was there something you were cross about?
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That's what I'm playing!
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I always say "Well played", but I especially mean it:
1. When I know they have lethal in hand (not on the board) and that I can't prevent it, and I say "Well played" before I end my turn and let them kill me.
2. When I know that I have lethal in hand (not on the board) and that they have just ended their turn without being able to prevent it.
3. When it's both, and I end my turn knowing that if they don't kill me in their next turn, I will kill then in my next. "Well played" means "This game is over, one way or another, and it was close. Can you win, if not I will?"
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I haven't been enjoying the ladder much this season, but I just - nearly too late - found the kind of deck I like. Controllish, off meta, decent win rate, no really polarised matchups.
I present:
I've just hit rank 5 with it, mostly on win streaks with occasional losses.
The weakness of a slow control deck with no real win condition is being killed by combo - usually Mecha'thun, these days. Putting Hakkar in as a tech card hard counters Mecha'thun, and also really helps against other combos that rely on drawing their deck quickly. If Hakkar gets silenced in a game, it's not the end of the world; we can still outvalue them in the normal way.
Worst matchup is deathrattle hunter. Odd mage can be ok. All other hunters and all Mecha'thun decks are easy meat.
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Guess it hasn't quite figured out how to Keleseth yet.
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I'll let you into a little secret - when your board is unfavorable for a Mass Hysteria - say you have three 1/1s and an 8/8 and the best case scenario is the 8/8 lives at 8/5 and it might be an 8/7... your opponent is NOT GOING TO PLAY MASS HYSTERIA, are they?
What happens when Mass Hysteria is played is random. When Mass Hysteria is played is not random.
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I'm with you. I recognise that it's good and that the pros use it and so on, but I just hate discarding the unpicked cards. I know it's not rational, but I just don't include it in my decks, because I know that if I do it sits in my hand as a dead card because I don't play it.
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Play an OTK deck yourself, and see what beats you.
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So I thought I'd try res priest and threw together a deck. And after chucking in a bunch of spells I noticed that I'd forgotten to put in any minions except Obsidian Statue... and yet it worked:
Does the deck really need another minion? If you draw both statues before you can play Shadow Essence you're screwed, of course, but that's an acceptable risk.
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My v1 had scorchers because I hadn't crafted roasters. The deck it was based on - https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1195037-ez-clap - had Twilight Drakes, but they never won me a game, whilst not being able to clear a board because I didn't have or couldn't activate a Duskbreaker lost me plenty.
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No, of course not. I found a control priest list showing a high winrate on the top decks thing here, played it last season, enjoyed it, updated it for the new expansion, and then, as I hadn't faced it even once and wasn't reading about how OP priest was and was winning easily with it and enjoying it, thought I'd mention it on the forums. "Here's a desk that doesn't seem to be much in the meta as far as I can tell and yet does well against it". That sort of thing.
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I really enjoyed this deck. This is how I've updated it with the new Rumble cards:
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So the deck it's based on is https://www.hearthpwn.com/top-decks/179698-control-priest which is pre-expansion but still showing a v. good win rate, and that has wild pyromancers and twilight drakes and power word shields.
I threw in some rumble cards because it feels bad to not use them, and the Firetree Witchdoctor is an obvious improvement over Power Word Shield - it's got a chance of giving you another Mind Blast or Shadow Visions, and it doesn't pollute the Shadow Visions pool making it less likely to draw a Mind Blast.
Once the PWS was gone, cutting Wild Pyro seemed sensible and that's where the Scorchers came in.
Twilight Drakes just seemed kind of nothingy to me. I guess they're one of the deck's few non-reactive plays, that you can stick on an empty board and not feel like you're losing value, but I want never glad to top-deck one, if you know what I mean.
I dusted some old gold cards I don't care about and crafted a pair of crowd roasters and replaced the scorchers with them. Crowd Roaster and Scaleworm serve the same purpose so with roasters in now cutting Scaleworms to make room for any other card makes sense to me.
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8-0 so far in the brawl: