Makes my Tagalog, French, German and English seem tame...
Why Arfikaans BTW scorpyon? Seems an odd language to learn..
In my town where I grew up, we had an influx of ex-Pats come from South Africa. So 90% of my friends as a teen -> 20s were Afrikaaners. :-) They "demanded" I picked up a few "choice" phrases! XD
So, to all my fellow HearthPwners out there: Ek is lief for jo! <3
OP: "I hate psychic scream and the shuffle mechanic and its rigged"
People: "no, youre just unlucky"
OP: "stop trolling and give me an answer"
People: "you're still unlucky"
OP: "no, I asked for a blue post about it!" (Which he didnt)
Clearly this is just a salt thread. OP, it is RNG based and you're just biased because you got unlucky. If you have any further complaints, there's a salt thread to fulfill your needs.
hahah funny great! you made fun of a non native english speaker but who is able to communicate in 5 languages. and you?
edit: but then i guess you took it too sexual. :) thats ok, i got a big dick, tho.
Relax guy. It was a laugh at a common play on words (that is used in English a lot) - it wasn't making fun of you. Look up on Google something like "3 men, 1 deck". It's a joke that has been around for years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M0FbsWn3IY
For the record, though, since you asked. I speak English, French, Spanish, Chinese, German, a little Japanese and some Finnish. I also know a few phrases in Afrikaans. Thanks for asking :-) Always good to meet a fellow poly-linguist!
Thats why i added the edit, after i realized the wordplay.
edit: btw, cool finnish, me too. not many outlanders are able to speak it.
If it ever turns out to happen at EVERY game, on a statistically significant sample, it's definitely a bug.
Shuffle is purely random by definition.
Per definition. But im questioning if its defined the same in HS. And my question is, where can i get official information about that topic.
I know pages where blizzard explains game mechanics and stuff, but shuffle was never a topic. And if i missed the shuffle topic, it would be cool if you give me a link.
It was never a topic because they use the standard definition for shuffle, used in common language.
In other words, since you can't find any explanation, it is implied that they are using the standard definition for shuffle: put cards in deck at random position.
That's why I'm telling you, in the very worste case it's a bug, not the normal functioning of the mechanic. Much more probably, just bad luck.
If you refuse unlucky RNG as an explanation, we cannot help you.
PS: deck size matters with card draw RNG. With few cards left, you are more likely to draw a newly shuffled one.
Im not refusing it, im ASKING. And yes, what you said is obvious, thats why i stated we both had big decks. Again my question is, it it a hidden machenismm that at at least one shuffled card is on top or did i had bad luck the last couple of hundred games?
Btw, im not deleting this game because of this, but its a decision i made long ago. As soon i need space for something else, this game is gone first.
Well I can't understand the disc space issue to be honest. Buy a micro sd for your phone, they are pretty cheap these days.
If the reasons are that the meta is stale, too many hunters on ladder, too much rng involved and so on and so forth, well these sound more logical reasons to quit the game.
you know that you can play this game on PC right? RIGHT? ;)
someone doesn't understand what "random" means... even in games where your chance of winning is 50% (like coin flips) it's not unlikely, rather likely you get winning/losing streaks of 6 or even 7+. just do the maths, thank you. also your perception might be off. people tend to remember random effects going against them waaaaay more often than most likely the 50% of times it went good for you, but people just glance over those. in a large number of attempts random effects will even out
If you refuse unlucky RNG as an explanation, we cannot help you.
PS: deck size matters with card draw RNG. With few cards left, you are more likely to draw a newly shuffled one.
Im not refusing it, im ASKING. And yes, what you said is obvious, thats why i stated we both had big decks. Again my question is, it it a hidden machenismm that at at least one shuffled card is on top or did i had bad luck the last couple of hundred games?
Btw, im not deleting this game because of this, but its a decision i made long ago. As soon i need space for something else, this game is gone first.
Well I can't understand the disc space issue to be honest. Buy a micro sd for your phone, they are pretty cheap these days.
If the reasons are that the meta is stale, too many hunters on ladder, too much rng involved and so on and so forth, well these sound more logical reasons to quit the game.
you know that you can play this game on PC right? RIGHT? ;)
wow, don't tell me! I didn't know until now, you opened my eyes. I stated the mobile for the disc space issue, because if you are not a producer or dj or a movie collector lol, the disc space in computer is more than enough so as not to delete the HS from your pc.
The OP already answered me and he said about Terabytes of disc space he is already using, so captain OBVIOUS you should have understood that he probably plays the game mainly/only on his pc.
BTW I am a DevOps engineer on a computer company, so I LOLED so hard when you said me you can play this game on computers :P
If it ever turns out to happen at EVERY game, on a statistically significant sample, it's definitely a bug.
Shuffle is purely random by definition.
Per definition. But im questioning if its defined the same in HS. And my question is, where can i get official information about that topic.
I know pages where blizzard explains game mechanics and stuff, but shuffle was never a topic. And if i missed the shuffle topic, it would be cool if you give me a link.
It was never a topic because they use the standard definition for shuffle, used in common language.
In other words, since you can't find any explanation, it is implied that they are using the standard definition for shuffle: put cards in deck at random position.
That's why I'm telling you, in the very worste case it's a bug, not the normal functioning of the mechanic. Much more probably, just bad luck.
if it was a bug it would've been caught loooong time ago, and this kind of thing would actually be noticed at playtesting way before the expansion had been released and probably at first implementation of the card
they probably reused a mechanic that is already in the game, when you code a new thing that is similar to something already existing or extends the original mechanic you reuse the code, no point in writing the same thing twice and there is a lot of shuffling in already happening in the game
so to answer the OP's question, no, there is no bug, there is nothing that makes the one of the shuffled cards end up on top of the opponent's deck, you were just unlucky
also if you play priest as much as you say you do you I'm 100% sure you had multiple instances that this had not happened, it might've happened a few times and your brain is tricking you into believing that it's happening every time, it's called Confirmation Bias
7 mana card is called Psychic Scream. If you shuffle 5-7 cards into a deck that is low of course they have high chance to draw that card again.
In particular I've seen a lot of next turn free spiders from Strider. I despise literally everything about rogue so *shrug*. It's kind of like when you mulligan something and out of the 28 cards you have, the one that you discarded comes back and you just WTF!
You can't get cards you milled in mulligan back to your hand. If you mean the other copy of the card then sure.
7 mana card is called Psychic Scream. If you shuffle 5-7 cards into a deck that is low of course they have high chance to draw that card again.
In particular I've seen a lot of next turn free spiders from Strider. I despise literally everything about rogue so *shrug*. It's kind of like when you mulligan something and out of the 28 cards you have, the one that you discarded comes back and you just WTF!
You can't get cards you milled in mulligan back to your hand. If you mean the other copy of the card then sure.
he didn't say you're getting it back in mulligan, he means the first card you draw on your first turn
one of the cards that you've mulliganned away could end up on top of the pile
Is this a brag post.? I can communicate in 9, and speak fluently 5, but do you see me waving my deck around? (Pun intended)
On topic: Do you have some kind of proof or is your post just dust in the wind?
Makes my Tagalog, French, German and English seem tame...
Why Arfikaans BTW scorpyon? Seems an odd language to learn..
4/3/19 RIP Keith Flint. 😔
In my town where I grew up, we had an influx of ex-Pats come from South Africa. So 90% of my friends as a teen -> 20s were Afrikaaners. :-)
They "demanded" I picked up a few "choice" phrases! XD
So, to all my fellow HearthPwners out there: Ek is lief for jo! <3
OP: "I hate psychic scream and the shuffle mechanic and its rigged"
People: "no, youre just unlucky"
OP: "stop trolling and give me an answer"
People: "you're still unlucky"
OP: "no, I asked for a blue post about it!" (Which he didnt)
Clearly this is just a salt thread. OP, it is RNG based and you're just biased because you got unlucky. If you have any further complaints, there's a salt thread to fulfill your needs.
That's Incredible!
Thats why i added the edit, after i realized the wordplay.
edit: btw, cool finnish, me too. not many outlanders are able to speak it.
All good! :-)
No harm done!
It was never a topic because they use the standard definition for shuffle, used in common language.
In other words, since you can't find any explanation, it is implied that they are using the standard definition for shuffle: put cards in deck at random position.
That's why I'm telling you, in the very worste case it's a bug, not the normal functioning of the mechanic. Much more probably, just bad luck.
you know that you can play this game on PC right? RIGHT? ;)
someone doesn't understand what "random" means... even in games where your chance of winning is 50% (like coin flips) it's not unlikely, rather likely you get winning/losing streaks of 6 or even 7+. just do the maths, thank you. also your perception might be off. people tend to remember random effects going against them waaaaay more often than most likely the 50% of times it went good for you, but people just glance over those. in a large number of attempts random effects will even out
wow, don't tell me! I didn't know until now, you opened my eyes. I stated the mobile for the disc space issue, because if you are not a producer or dj or a movie collector lol, the disc space in computer is more than enough so as not to delete the HS from your pc.
The OP already answered me and he said about Terabytes of disc space he is already using, so captain OBVIOUS you should have understood that he probably plays the game mainly/only on his pc.
BTW I am a DevOps engineer on a computer company, so I LOLED so hard when you said me you can play this game on computers :P
if it was a bug it would've been caught loooong time ago, and this kind of thing would actually be noticed at playtesting way before the expansion had been released and probably at first implementation of the card
they probably reused a mechanic that is already in the game, when you code a new thing that is similar to something already existing or extends the original mechanic you reuse the code, no point in writing the same thing twice
and there is a lot of shuffling in already happening in the game
so to answer the OP's question, no, there is no bug, there is nothing that makes the one of the shuffled cards end up on top of the opponent's deck, you were just unlucky
also if you play priest as much as you say you do you I'm 100% sure you had multiple instances that this had not happened, it might've happened a few times and your brain is tricking you into believing that it's happening every time, it's called Confirmation Bias
You can't get cards you milled in mulligan back to your hand. If you mean the other copy of the card then sure.
this should be in the salt thread
title: "I am deleting the game"
topic: "There is this mechanic that I don't know how it works but it seems rigged"
looking for attention much?
he didn't say you're getting it back in mulligan, he means the first card you draw on your first turn
one of the cards that you've mulliganned away could end up on top of the pile