Shaku doesn't really help win the game for you and there's a bit of rng that makes it unreliable, I suggest Rag more since he's a really good all around minion that'll help you stall or shut down late game.
Since I just got a golden Millhouse.... I got dust to spend on 4 Legs or 3 Legs and 4 Epics.
I really enjoy playing Control and Midrange, Aggro to me is just for questing. Quest Rouge f.e. is just lame. My favourite classes are Warrior, Rouge, Mage, Paladin and it turned out I also really like priest now :)
So my considerations are:
Open the waygate - I'm thinking of one deep control deck not bound on the quest. Also I'm pretty sure about the potential during the next expansions. Also got Antonidas.
Alexstrasza - I mean, she's a dragon. But just for mage?
Lyra Sunshard - Not quite sure yet, but I like the playstyle generating endless cards.
Sunkeeper Tarim - Not for murlocs, I just think he has potential. And I got Tirion & Happy Rag.
Awaken the makers - To improve my N'Zoth Fun deck
Ysera - Probably not for now. But she's a classic.
Jungle Giants - I see some potential for ramp in the upcoming expansions.
What do you think about White Eye?
Epics I'm missing are unfortunately 1 Primordial Glyph, 2 Shadow Visions (got Elise), 2 Murloc Warleader (I really don't know why I don't have a single one..) and 1 Primordial Drake. In general i do not craft epics often cause I'm convinced I can draw them sooner or later :D
So what are your opinions?
Thank you very much in advance!
All 3 quests you mentioned are not very good at the time. If i were you i would craft Sunkeeper Tarim, Lyra the Sunshard and all 6 epic cards you mentioned. and then Alexstrasza as soon as you have the dust again.
This way you can play Midrange/Murloc Paladin, all types of Priest and Secret Mage for now and all types of Mage after you craft Alexsztrasza
Thank you very much for your reply.
Maybe I should've mentioned that I'm more into building some specific deck types rather than just using the meta decks. That's why I would like to try on a Control Mage with the use of Open the waygate.
Also I see some future potential in it like in Awaken the makers and Jungle giants - though they seem not to be very useful at the moment. But yeah.. maybe Jungle giants is about to wait until next expansion :D
But Alexatrasza seems to be a good choice considering it's a classic. But just for mage? And is there any use for Ysera at the moment? Control Warrior or Dragon Priest?
But I guess I'll go for Lyra as you said. Can't do anything wrong with her I think :)
Sunkeeper Tarim should fit into nearly all decks. So probably a safe one too.
What about Warriors King Mosh, any experiences if he is usable?
Since I just got a golden Millhouse.... I got dust to spend on 4 Legs or 3 Legs and 4 Epics.
I really enjoy playing Control and Midrange, Aggro to me is just for questing. Quest Rouge f.e. is just lame. My favourite classes are Warrior, Rouge, Mage, Paladin and it turned out I also really like priest now :)
So my considerations are:
Open the waygate - I'm thinking of one deep control deck not bound on the quest. Also I'm pretty sure about the potential during the next expansions. Also got Antonidas.
Alexstrasza - I mean, she's a dragon. But just for mage?
Lyra Sunshard - Not quite sure yet, but I like the playstyle generating endless cards.
Sunkeeper Tarim - Not for murlocs, I just think he has potential. And I got Tirion & Happy Rag.
Awaken the makers - To improve my N'Zoth Fun deck
Ysera - Probably not for now. But she's a classic.
Jungle Giants - I see some potential for ramp in the upcoming expansions.
What do you think about White Eye?
Epics I'm missing are unfortunately 1 Primordial Glyph, 2 Shadow Visions (got Elise), 2 Murloc Warleader (I really don't know why I don't have a single one..) and 1 Primordial Drake. In general i do not craft epics often cause I'm convinced I can draw them sooner or later :D
So what are your opinions?
Thank you very much in advance!
All 3 quests you mentioned are not very good at the time. If i were you i would craft Sunkeeper Tarim, Lyra the Sunshard and all 6 epic cards you mentioned. and then Alexstrasza as soon as you have the dust again.
This way you can play Midrange/Murloc Paladin, all types of Priest and Secret Mage for now and all types of Mage after you craft Alexsztrasza
Thank you very much for your reply.
Maybe I should've told that I'm more into building some specific deck types rather than just using the meta decks. That's why I would like to try on a Control Mage with the use of Open the waygate.
Also I see some future potential in it like in Awaken the makers and Jungle giants - though they seem not to be very useful at the moment. But yeah.. maybe Jungle giants is about to wait until next expansion :D
But Alexatrasza seems to be a good choice considering it's a classic. But just for mage? And is there any use for Ysera at the moment? Control Warrior or Dragon Priest?
But I guess I'll go for Lyra as you said. Can't do anything wrong with her I think :)
Sunkeeper Tarim should fit into nearly all decks. So probably a safe one too.
What about Warriors King Mosh, any experiences if he is usable?
Again: Thanks to all!
Alexstrasza can bu used in Handlock variants too and Ysera is all around great end-game card both in Control Warrior and Dragon Priest.
So it really depends on what you want to play. Both of them are safe crafts just like Tarim and Lyra. I'd wait for the quests.
I used King Mosh in a Control Warrior deck last season but didn't get the value i expected.Definetly not a bad card but not a priority to craft either.
So I'm torn between crafting Elise Trailblazer and Dr Boom and I only have 1600 dust. I mainly play Paladin and Priest, of those two mainly being control or combo decks. If I crafted Elise, I would strengthen my Reno Priest and add it to my SilverHand Paladin. If I crafted Dr Boom I could basically do the same. I'm also missing Wickerflame if that would be a considerable craft too. What are your guy's thoughts and suggestions. Please help, thank you!
Dr Boom is an OP card, one of the best cards in the game, good in almost any deck.
Elise is good in control decks, and she is a ton of fun.
I would choose Elise because combined with Shadow Visions brings and insane value plus it's pretty fun to open a pack in the middle of a game, but, i think Dr Boom is better as he can turn the tide of a battle thanks to the boom bots.
Hi guys, so I'm gonna start saving gold for the next expansion but I got Sunkeeper Tarim on my pity timer so I might as well try it. I've never played Paladin before since it's always too expensive but I'm wondering what's best: -Tirion (Classic, always playable in every paladin, needed for midrange murloc) -Finja (Missing on aggro murloc paladin, could be used in Shaman quest for fun, water packages on other classes + future murlocs) -Save dust for next expansion
None of those are 100% needed to climb since I got other meta decks completed, tried aggro murloc without finja and it works fine, not sure if it would be better with finja but i heard it is pretty good, havent tried midrange murloc but I heard its high tier right now, already got all the murlocs + gentle megasaurs, I would use lay of hands instead of ragnaros lightlord for midrange though
Tirion is better than Finja. Lay on Hands is a good choice if you don't use Finja to pull murlocs from the deck as well. I play N'Zoth paladin myself, and only use Finja in rogue at the moment.
Hi guys, so I'm gonna start saving gold for the next expansion but I got Sunkeeper Tarim on my pity timer so I might as well try it. I've never played Paladin before since it's always too expensive but I'm wondering what's best: -Tirion (Classic, always playable in every paladin, needed for midrange murloc) -Finja (Missing on aggro murloc paladin, could be used in Shaman quest for fun, water packages on other classes + future murlocs) -Save dust for next expansion
None of those are 100% needed to climb since I got other meta decks completed, tried aggro murloc without finja and it works fine, not sure if it would be better with finja but i heard it is pretty good, havent tried midrange murloc but I heard its high tier right now, already got all the murlocs + gentle megasaurs, I would use lay of hands instead of ragnaros lightlord for midrange though
Tirion is great, he can be put into pretty much any paladin deck. Stonehill defender is a decent temp if you wanna try that. High chance at Tirion, though I personally grab Sunkeeper pretty much any time he is offered
Hi guys, so I'm gonna start saving gold for the next expansion but I got Sunkeeper Tarim on my pity timer so I might as well try it. I've never played Paladin before since it's always too expensive but I'm wondering what's best: -Tirion (Classic, always playable in every paladin, needed for midrange murloc) -Finja (Missing on aggro murloc paladin, could be used in Shaman quest for fun, water packages on other classes + future murlocs) -Save dust for next expansion
None of those are 100% needed to climb since I got other meta decks completed, tried aggro murloc without finja and it works fine, not sure if it would be better with finja but i heard it is pretty good, havent tried midrange murloc but I heard its high tier right now, already got all the murlocs + gentle megasaurs, I would use lay of hands instead of ragnaros lightlord for midrange though
Tirion has been used in 95% of all optimized paladin decks and is part of every meta that paladin is relevant. Tirion is also rotation proof for the time being and would only rotate with a full refund anyway. Finja on the other hand (while solid) will be wild only in a few months and isn't nearly as ubiquitous in paladin.
I would add Elise to that, she is showing up in more and more lists now. Also The Caverns Below probably warrants a spot even though QR is falling out of favour lately.
The reason I didn't include The Caverns Below is because her matchup is quite polarized and her win rate currently is below 50%.
And for [card]Elise the Trailblazer[/card], it is always a solid card to be included in a midrange / control deck, but my concern is it more feels like a 'bonus' card, but not a 'must' card. It will be great to have her in the deck, but the deck is still alright without her.
Why? With less than 2 months untill the next expansion where warlock will probably wreck everyone?
I say thus because if warlock stays at the bot of the tier one more expansion it means team 5 really fucked it up and a lot of players will shit them...literally
Why would you now craft a legendary based on the assumption a class might do well in 2 months? And even when Warlock will be OP in 2 months and wreck all other classes, they might not even need Jaraxxus to do so.
Right now Jaraxxus doesn't seem to be played, so no point considering to craft him right now.
I see more jaraxxus than antonidas or leeroy, but you know better.
Why craft jaraxxus now? Because it is one of the best legendaries, never wasted dust and also it is very cool. Plus the satisfaction you get defeating with him is priceless.
I am not saying it is the safest craft. I am saying it is just vERY SAFE! You lefting it out from that list is just bad info.
I didn't write anything about antonidas or leeroy, so your reply makes no sense at all.
You claim you aren't saying he's the safest craft, but you do write he is one of the best legendaries and never wasted dust....which i wouldn't write about a card i wouldn't consider a safe craft. You just sound weird, people should craft Jaraxxus cuz you don't see antonidas and leeroy either and in 2 months warlock might be the best class in game. As i wrote in my previous reply, even when it will be the best class it still might not be using Jaraxxus at all.
No point in crafting him untill he is actually used, so the advise to craft him right now isn't a good advise.
Sorry now i saw your name. I got mad because there is a list there taht says antonidas is a safe craft while jaraxxus is absent from it. They are both the same this meta: not very helpful (although jaraxxus helps lock a lot more than tony helps mage)
Forgive me for being salty with you. But I just don't understand the logic behind some remarks and I feel like people say no to jaraxxus just because lock is in a bad shape... I didn't want to argue with you.
I did see some Antonidas being used in tournaments. Jaraxxus probably wasn't at all as i think i remember Warlock not being played by anybody in Shanhai qualifiers. Therefor i doubt you can say they are both the same in this meta.
What better reason to not craft Jaraxxus then the mere fact Warlock is in the shape it is right now? You don't understand the logic behind that, but it sure makes more sense then your logic of crafting him because Warlock SHOULD be great again in 2 months.
I wouldn't craft a card because someone thinks it will be great in 2 months, and if you disagree you should go find some funny youtube videos of top streamers telling you which card you should and shouldn't craft before the set is released. It seems to be hard enough to claim which card will be a must craft right before the launch of a set, let alone 2 months before when nobody even has seen a single card of the next set.
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So I'm torn between crafting Elise Trailblazer and Dr Boom and I only have 1600 dust. I mainly play Paladin and Priest, of those two mainly being control or combo decks. If I crafted Elise, I would strengthen my Reno Priest and add it to my SilverHand Paladin. If I crafted Dr Boom I could basically do the same. I'm also missing Wickerflame if that would be a considerable craft too. What are your guy's thoughts and suggestions. Please help, thank you!
Dr Boom is an OP card, one of the best cards in the game, good in almost any deck.
Elise is good in control decks, and she is a ton of fun.
I would choose Elise because combined with Shadow Visions brings and insane value plus it's pretty fun to open a pack in the middle of a game, but, i think Dr Boom is better as he can turn the tide of a battle thanks to the boom bots.
Hi guys, so I'm gonna start saving gold for the next expansion but I got Sunkeeper Tarim on my pity timer so I might as well try it.
I've never played Paladin before since it's always too expensive but I'm wondering what's best:
-Tirion (Classic, always playable in every paladin, needed for midrange murloc)
-Finja (Missing on aggro murloc paladin, could be used in Shaman quest for fun, water packages on other classes + future murlocs)
-Save dust for next expansion
None of those are 100% needed to climb since I got other meta decks completed, tried aggro murloc without finja and it works fine, not sure if it would be better with finja but i heard it is pretty good, havent tried midrange murloc but I heard its high tier right now, already got all the murlocs + gentle megasaurs, I would use lay of hands instead of ragnaros lightlord for midrange though
Tirion is better than Finja. Lay on Hands is a good choice if you don't use Finja to pull murlocs from the deck as well. I play N'Zoth paladin myself, and only use Finja in rogue at the moment.
Legendary Tier Crafting Guide
June 2017 Standard Format
From Classic sets [Always worth to craft]:
Neutral: Leeroy Jenkins, Bloodmage Thalnos, Alexstrasza
Mage: Archmage Antonidas
Rogue: Edwin VanCleef
Paladin: Tirion Fordring
From Expansions sets:
Neutral: Aya Blackpaw, Patches the Pirate, Finja, the Flying Star
Paladin: Sunkeeper Tarim, Ragnaros, Lightlord
Priest: Lyra the Sunshard
Rogue: Sherazin, Corpse Flower
Warrior: Fire Plume's Heart
I would add Elise to that, she is showing up in more and more lists now. Also The Caverns Below probably warrants a spot even though QR is falling out of favour lately.
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I got your point. It is a good idea to add The Caverns Below and [card]Elise the Trailblazer[/card]!
The reason I didn't include The Caverns Below is because her matchup is quite polarized and her win rate currently is below 50%.
And for [card]Elise the Trailblazer[/card], it is always a solid card to be included in a midrange / control deck, but my concern is it more feels like a 'bonus' card, but not a 'must' card. It will be great to have her in the deck, but the deck is still alright without her.
Should I craft Pyro for Patches?
sorry
Lord Jaraxxus of course is always a strong card
but sadly at the moment it is not at the top priority to craft
And even when Warlock will be OP in 2 months and wreck all other classes, they might not even need Jaraxxus to do so.
You just sound weird, people should craft Jaraxxus cuz you don't see antonidas and leeroy either and in 2 months warlock might be the best class in game.
As i wrote in my previous reply, even when it will be the best class it still might not be using Jaraxxus at all.
Jaraxxus probably wasn't at all as i think i remember Warlock not being played by anybody in Shanhai qualifiers.
Therefor i doubt you can say they are both the same in this meta.
You don't understand the logic behind that, but it sure makes more sense then your logic of crafting him because Warlock SHOULD be great again in 2 months.
It seems to be hard enough to claim which card will be a must craft right before the launch of a set, let alone 2 months before when nobody even has seen a single card of the next set.