I've been playing since beta with the same account. Not too long ago, I created a new account just for fun, and realised that it's actually really hard to try and win games in a row without having most of the cards.
What do you think? anyone had a better experience or is it just me?
My experience has been awful, and I’m an experienced player. Meta is garbage, and there is no balance. Will not play until Monster Hunter comes out or they fix the issue decks.
I just got fed up with Standard too. The most fun I have in this game is low rank wild, just float around rank 18-16 and you'll find some cool match ups. I like it here because you do get the variety of tier 1 decks to tier 4 decks instead of a constant barrage of tier 1 decks that take a half hour each.
Absolutely not balanced for new players they should be given access to at least one competitive deck. The basic decks they give new players are outdated and don’t stand a chance.
Well, Disguised Toast hit Rank 15 in about 3 hours with a brand new account, so I'd say its ok.
Can everyone do that though? Definently not. I've been playing since KOFT and only hit Rank 10 last season.
I remember making Midrange Hunter and Thief Priest as a new player, didn't do great with them but those were the decks that got me in the game. I hit R19 with Thief Priest (an incredible accomplishment btw) and it was really fun.
My friend that started last month got Shudderwok as his free Legendary and opened the other combo pieces and got to R20 his 3rd week of playing.
Multiple sites/sources have aggro paladin (a deck mainly built of classic and basic 1-3 drop neutral cards) as the highest win % deck. Draw, play, attack face - rinse and repeat ad nauseam.
Cubelock can cheat out huge bodies, gain insane amounts of life, wipe the board multiple times or just force opponent to trade into its cheated out taunt minions, while re-flooding the board of the same minions while gaining 5 armor and dealing 3 damage for 3 lifesteal. It's pretty insane in the history of Trading Card Games for one deck to be so versatile in every component of the game and still have a high win %.
Everything else? Pretty much has to beat these two decks more then 50% of the time to even rank up and have any fun or progress. For sure you can progress with a Spiteful deck, or a taunt spam. But we haven't even talked about how to much time or $ it takes to build a collection of cards to even compete with.
If I was new to hearthstone, I would quickly realize how pay to play it is, how broken the meta is, and how the developers of the TCG don't really care about the new comer experience because the fan base and money cow machine that it is, is well enough for Blizzard to not give a F#.
Then I would go play something else.
Do not get me wrong, I enjoy the game, I pump money into (probably more then most reading this), and I comfortably compete for my golden epic end of season. I don't play enough to work towards legend, I mainly play FPS games. This post is my perspective walking in a new player's shoes.
The game is unbalanced to help new players out. there are certain cards which are just plain good in the hands of any player. Take the cube for example a 4/6 body for 5 mana is fine for any situation, and if you happen to have a minion on board, then this card can greatly improve your ability to pressure the opponent. Spiteful summoner is also good for this reason, if it pulls anything over 2 mana spell it generate value above curve. these cards have little to no downside yet create big value in many situations. You dont really need to build a deck full of synergies for them to be effective in my opinion that is designed to help new players out.
i created a new account to try it back in frozen throne and the answer is yes and no, no because you can't even jump in casual without finding the top tier 1 meta netdeck of the time really early on, let alone ranked, particularly in the european server where you can find the cubelock/odd paladin player as soon as rank 24 And, yes because you can just complete your quests with friends, or if forever alone: with a secondary account so you play in both accounts and complete the quests vs yourself by having hearthstone in two different devices and that way you open your way to being able to have more leeway with disenchants since you can focus on different tools with both accounts and you don't get scammed by 80 gold quest scamems because you do the 80 gold quests with yourself *hugs self*.
I tried a new account for fun too. Found out that i had to buy the starter pack due to its huge value and buy the karazhan adventure which i tried to amass gold only to find out that it would take me a month so i just bought the whole thing. Spent about 30 euros total and im higher ranked now then on my pay to win account. One is NA other is EU so region difficulty might be a thing
The game is complete bullshit - unplayable garbage. Hence, why I don't play it, just keep checking on occasion to see if they fixed it or it is still the same horseshit.
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The game is complete bullshit - unplayable garbage. Hence, why I don't play it, just keep checking on occasion to see if they fixed it or it is still the same horseshit.
Unfortunately I’m here too. So much potential with this expansion, but older broken cards are ruining the meta. Nothing has changed since last year.
So, I started a free to play account about 6 weeks before the expansion hit and my experience was very different from a lot of the previous posters. I'm not a great player, main account is level 15-10 usually but I've pumped plenty money into this great game so have most of the cards so knew what to aim for.
So for those 6 weeks the highest I ever got was level 19 which is better than I expected and as you'd expect at those levels I saw a vast array of decks and players. However I did my quests and sensibly bought my packs so by the time the expansion hit I had close to 8,000 dust to spend on cards and I now have 6 decks that I consider viable enough to get me to level 10 (currently at 14).
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Well, Disguised Toast hit Rank 15 in about 3 hours with a brand new account, so I'd say its ok.
Can everyone do that though? Definently not. I've been playing since KOFT and only hit Rank 10 last season.
I remember making Midrange Hunter and Thief Priest as a new player, didn't do great with them but those were the decks that got me in the game. I hit R19 with Thief Priest (an incredible accomplishment btw) and it was really fun.
My friend that started last month got Shudderwok as his free Legendary and opened the other combo pieces and got to R20 his 3rd week of playing.
I don't know if we can take Toast or any other of the pros... Those people are the best in the game and can actually make excellent decks out of a few cards...
Interesting, on a topic about new players, long time players chime in to complain. I started a little over a year ago, and have no complaints. Its impossible to get true balance. If it happened it would trade one problem for another as winning more than 2 games in a row would be near impossible.
IMO it's OK for a new player. Anyone can grind to lvl 20 (because you can't fall on ranks bellow 20) and this is guaranteed golden common (exchangeable to common of choice). Then 15 is reachable after few seasons even with self made decks (after understanding basic stuff/mechanics). We need to understand, that not everyone need to reach rank 5 on 1st try. It's not different in other games ... for example LoL, CS:GO, WoW - you can't do much first 3-6 months from the start - you need to acquire skill/tools. Current HS is much better place for newbies - daily quests for minimum 50g, Tawern Brawl (pack each few days), each expansion have giveaways/events, sometimes there is free arena ticket or free packs for voting for a winner/watching twitch championship. Only doing quests gives you minimum 1pack per 2 days. Plus there is cheap welcome bundle. Also season rotation is something that might help since new players don't need to care about rotated out sets. Best case scenario i "only" 4 sets + basic, worst - 6sets + basic (but then only few months waiting and we have new rotation).
It is possible to grind to Legend within 2 months if you have never played the game before and in F2P.
Several streamers including Trump has done this within the Year of the Mammoth. (2017)
Not everyone can do this. The difference is skill. Not luck or money.
There ars a lot of people complaining. I suggest they quit the game since that is the only solution to their problems. Enjoy Year of the Raven everyone :) <3
I've been playing since Beta and have amassed a big collection of which 80-90% are cards I never play. It's possible to build a cheap tier 1 deck with informed crafting choices but to actually feel like you are progressing in the game when you lose to a deck with multiple legendaries time and again - I don't think its encouraging or feels at all worthwhile.
I think a much better question is 'how is this fun for anyone?' Because I miss this game being fun, Coldlight Oracle were it still in standard would be having a huge impact at the moment and you could easily and cheaply build a mill deck. That would counter a lot of the greedier decks - I am looking very hard at you Warlock!
Perhaps what would be kind of neat though is if they introduced an actual Pauper format where decks were restricted to Rares, Commons, and Basic cards only, although I don't know if the cards are complex enough to support such a format (my suspicion is that it would literally just be Curvestone and no decision making, and whoever got T4 Chillwind Yeti first wins).
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Hi everyone.
I've been playing since beta with the same account. Not too long ago, I created a new account just for fun, and realised that it's actually really hard to try and win games in a row without having most of the cards.
What do you think? anyone had a better experience or is it just me?
My experience has been awful, and I’m an experienced player. Meta is garbage, and there is no balance. Will not play until Monster Hunter comes out or they fix the issue decks.
This game is not balanced in any sense of the word.
I just got fed up with Standard too. The most fun I have in this game is low rank wild, just float around rank 18-16 and you'll find some cool match ups. I like it here because you do get the variety of tier 1 decks to tier 4 decks instead of a constant barrage of tier 1 decks that take a half hour each.
Absolutely not balanced for new players they should be given access to at least one competitive deck. The basic decks they give new players are outdated and don’t stand a chance.
Well, Disguised Toast hit Rank 15 in about 3 hours with a brand new account, so I'd say its ok.
Can everyone do that though? Definently not. I've been playing since KOFT and only hit Rank 10 last season.
I remember making Midrange Hunter and Thief Priest as a new player, didn't do great with them but those were the decks that got me in the game. I hit R19 with Thief Priest (an incredible accomplishment btw) and it was really fun.
My friend that started last month got Shudderwok as his free Legendary and opened the other combo pieces and got to R20 his 3rd week of playing.
Unpopular opinion: Rogue is OP
Lets take a gander shall we?
Multiple sites/sources have aggro paladin (a deck mainly built of classic and basic 1-3 drop neutral cards) as the highest win % deck. Draw, play, attack face - rinse and repeat ad nauseam.
Cubelock can cheat out huge bodies, gain insane amounts of life, wipe the board multiple times or just force opponent to trade into its cheated out taunt minions, while re-flooding the board of the same minions while gaining 5 armor and dealing 3 damage for 3 lifesteal. It's pretty insane in the history of Trading Card Games for one deck to be so versatile in every component of the game and still have a high win %.
Everything else? Pretty much has to beat these two decks more then 50% of the time to even rank up and have any fun or progress. For sure you can progress with a Spiteful deck, or a taunt spam. But we haven't even talked about how to much time or $ it takes to build a collection of cards to even compete with.
If I was new to hearthstone, I would quickly realize how pay to play it is, how broken the meta is, and how the developers of the TCG don't really care about the new comer experience because the fan base and money cow machine that it is, is well enough for Blizzard to not give a F#.
Then I would go play something else.
Do not get me wrong, I enjoy the game, I pump money into (probably more then most reading this), and I comfortably compete for my golden epic end of season. I don't play enough to work towards legend, I mainly play FPS games. This post is my perspective walking in a new player's shoes.
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The game is unbalanced to help new players out. there are certain cards which are just plain good in the hands of any player. Take the cube for example a 4/6 body for 5 mana is fine for any situation, and if you happen to have a minion on board, then this card can greatly improve your ability to pressure the opponent. Spiteful summoner is also good for this reason, if it pulls anything over 2 mana spell it generate value above curve. these cards have little to no downside yet create big value in many situations. You dont really need to build a deck full of synergies for them to be effective in my opinion that is designed to help new players out.
i created a new account to try it back in frozen throne and the answer is yes and no, no because you can't even jump in casual without finding the top tier 1 meta netdeck of the time really early on, let alone ranked, particularly in the european server where you can find the cubelock/odd paladin player as soon as rank 24 And, yes because you can just complete your quests with friends, or if forever alone: with a secondary account so you play in both accounts and complete the quests vs yourself by having hearthstone in two different devices and that way you open your way to being able to have more leeway with disenchants since you can focus on different tools with both accounts and you don't get scammed by 80 gold quest scamems because you do the 80 gold quests with yourself *hugs self*.
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I tried a new account for fun too. Found out that i had to buy the starter pack due to its huge value and buy the karazhan adventure which i tried to amass gold only to find out that it would take me a month so i just bought the whole thing. Spent about 30 euros total and im higher ranked now then on my pay to win account. One is NA other is EU so region difficulty might be a thing
The game is complete bullshit - unplayable garbage. Hence, why I don't play it, just keep checking on occasion to see if they fixed it or it is still the same horseshit.
Free to try and find a game, dealing cards for sorrow, cards for pain.
So, I started a free to play account about 6 weeks before the expansion hit and my experience was very different from a lot of the previous posters. I'm not a great player, main account is level 15-10 usually but I've pumped plenty money into this great game so have most of the cards so knew what to aim for.
So for those 6 weeks the highest I ever got was level 19 which is better than I expected and as you'd expect at those levels I saw a vast array of decks and players. However I did my quests and sensibly bought my packs so by the time the expansion hit I had close to 8,000 dust to spend on cards and I now have 6 decks that I consider viable enough to get me to level 10 (currently at 14).
Vex Crow Mage, Spiteful Priest, Enrage Warrior, Tempo Rogue, Zoolock, Midrange Hunter.
Arguing on the internet is like playing chess with a pigeon. You may be good at chess, but the pigeon is just going to knock all the pieces down, take a shit on the table, and strut around like its victorious.
Interesting, on a topic about new players, long time players chime in to complain. I started a little over a year ago, and have no complaints. Its impossible to get true balance. If it happened it would trade one problem for another as winning more than 2 games in a row would be near impossible.
If you are in your first year of playing please read this post.
Dust does not burn a hole in the jar. Be careful what you craft, especially before and right after a rotation.
IMO it's OK for a new player. Anyone can grind to lvl 20 (because you can't fall on ranks bellow 20) and this is guaranteed golden common (exchangeable to common of choice).
Then 15 is reachable after few seasons even with self made decks (after understanding basic stuff/mechanics).
We need to understand, that not everyone need to reach rank 5 on 1st try. It's not different in other games ... for example LoL, CS:GO, WoW - you can't do much first 3-6 months from the start - you need to acquire skill/tools.
Current HS is much better place for newbies - daily quests for minimum 50g, Tawern Brawl (pack each few days), each expansion have giveaways/events, sometimes there is free arena ticket or free packs for voting for a winner/watching twitch championship. Only doing quests gives you minimum 1pack per 2 days. Plus there is cheap welcome bundle. Also season rotation is something that might help since new players don't need to care about rotated out sets. Best case scenario i "only" 4 sets + basic, worst - 6sets + basic (but then only few months waiting and we have new rotation).
It is possible to grind to Legend within 2 months if you have never played the game before and in F2P.
Several streamers including Trump has done this within the Year of the Mammoth. (2017)
Not everyone can do this. The difference is skill. Not luck or money.
There ars a lot of people complaining. I suggest they quit the game since that is the only solution to their problems. Enjoy Year of the Raven everyone :) <3
I've been playing since Beta and have amassed a big collection of which 80-90% are cards I never play. It's possible to build a cheap tier 1 deck with informed crafting choices but to actually feel like you are progressing in the game when you lose to a deck with multiple legendaries time and again - I don't think its encouraging or feels at all worthwhile.
I think a much better question is 'how is this fun for anyone?' Because I miss this game being fun, Coldlight Oracle were it still in standard would be having a huge impact at the moment and you could easily and cheaply build a mill deck. That would counter a lot of the greedier decks - I am looking very hard at you Warlock!
No and it shouldn't be.
Perhaps what would be kind of neat though is if they introduced an actual Pauper format where decks were restricted to Rares, Commons, and Basic cards only, although I don't know if the cards are complex enough to support such a format (my suspicion is that it would literally just be Curvestone and no decision making, and whoever got T4 Chillwind Yeti first wins).
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