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    posted a message on .: Do you use a Deck Tracker in Hearthstone ? :.

    There are too many reasons to list on why I use a deck tracker (HDT is so good, I really encourage people to try it. Free publicity right here) but being able to keep track of global winrates, deck win rates, matchups, etc is really good.

    I wish Hearthstone did that for you instead of having to use an external app but I guess that'll never happen so I'll keep using a tracker.

    Posted in: General Discussion
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    posted a message on GOLDEN HERO.. And beyond?!

    Ben Brode has talked about this in the past. As far as I know, this subject hasn't been brought up again since. More info here:

    http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/2792-tracking-more-than-500-wins-coming-soon-to-a

    Posted in: General Discussion
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    posted a message on Patch 10.0: Kobolds Flavor Text, New Quests, Kobolds Brawl, 4 Card Backs, Datamined Info

    Something that doesn't show up in the patch notes is that they fixed the golden version of Nemsy. Her tray and hero portrait are now golden too.

    Before the patch hit, the only difference between golden and regular Nemsy was that the golden version had a golden Hero Power, it was pretty lame and I was quite disappointed but I'm glad Blizzard noticed.

    Posted in: News
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    posted a message on Shadowstep
    Quote from moonsorrow999 >>

    Some people have actually cut it, especially the lists running Golakka Crawlers and Eviserates.

    Got any lists to share?

    So from what you guys are saying, Shadowstep can be a very versatile card. I think it can be great at times, and a waste of a card slot on other occasions, which therefore makes it inconsistent. Or do the times the card is good outweigh the times the card is bad? In the long run I mean.

    I think it's a card that can be exchanged with others, depending on player preference and decks they're facing but I see it in EVERY tempo Rogue deck (except Stancifka's) which is what I don't understand. Are there really no better or equally good alternatives? Is the winrate without it so drastically lower that it justifies running it in about every Rogue tempo deck or could it be down to player preference in the end?

    I feel it's the only card that doesn't seem to fit this kinda tempo Rogue deck, just seems clunky.

    Posted in: Rogue
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    posted a message on Shadowstep

     

    Quote from Likafoss >>

    I would want to see a source of card draw in place of the Shadowsteps, but I struggle to find any good option maybe other than Fan of Knives or so.

     I tried card draw too but it didn't work out for me either. I thought of Fan of Knives too but there aren't many 1/1's around and it's kinda slow. Thought of Mimic Pod but found it inconsistent (fun though). The other options don't seem very good and are mostly too slow. I don't know if there is room for card draw in Tempo Rogue.
    For the current meta I'm facing, I replaced 2x Shadowstep with 2x Saronite Chain Gang (good for board presence, trading, protecting minions and when buffed by Keleseth is insane), and 1x Cold Blood with 1x Deadly Poison (great against Zoo which I've been fighting a lot lately. It's also good against other faster decks).
    There are a LOT of other options which is why I wanted input on this subject. Deck list below for reference, 50 games this season which started at rank 16, so they were played mostly against people that finished the previous season at rank 2 - legend. I know 50 games isn't a lot but it's just uhh... illustrative. : )

     

     

     

    Posted in: Rogue
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    posted a message on Shadowstep

    You just mentioned 5 uses for a 0 cost card. Also it has other situational uses besides that. It has a good chance to have value for literally no mana so why not?

    Disclaimer: Text below is just my opinion, not fact. Though, I could be right. Or wrong... :p

    Yes, the card has its uses, however they are situational (I'd rather opt for consistency):

    -Combined with SI:7, it's basically a 1 mana deal 2 damage. Meh...;
    -With Leroy, the opponent needs to have 12 health (or 18, and you need Leroy + 2x Shadowstep in hand, that's 3 useless cards in hand during early - midgame that could instead have been minions used to further your own agenda instead of hoping to get the opponent to 18 health to finish him off);
    -With Keleseth, you need to have both cards in your hand by turn 2 - 3 for it to be effective;
    -With Vilespine, it basically requires the opponent to have 2 decent sized minions on board and you need 8 - 9 mana to use it on the same turn, and, with Tempo Rogue, you generally want to win around turn 7 - 8 as your odds of winning tend to decrease the longer the game goes on, exception being against another fast deck but then why would you want to spend around 9 mana to kill 2 minions? Of course you can simply Vilespine + Shadowstep and return it to your hand but then you have 1 less minion on board;
    -With Edwin it's basically a 1 cost +2/+2 buff.

    Do you think those situations are worth having 2 bad (IMO) cards in a deck that has no draw? Shadowstep makes sense in Miracle Rogue because it has so much draw it usually doesn't matter if you draw them early and have no use for them. It's also part of Miracle's win condition so it makes sense to have them.

    5 potential uses are typically enough to justify running acard. Brann Bronzebeard was often run just to get value off of one card, same premise.

    Brann counted as a minion meaning he could be played for tempo on turn 3, if you really needed, which also meant the opponent had to get rid of it immediately, otherwise they'd risk losing the game right then and there. Also, it was a one of, not 2 and was mostly used in control decks. It's also a neutral card. Something else to keep in mind is that Shadowstep tipically results in card disadvantage (from experience) while Brann does not. Brann seems so much more versatile than Shadowstep.

    Thanks for reading and for the replies guys, keep em' coming. Anyone else share the same opinion as me? Stancifka made a Rogue that has no Shadowsteps (and got to Legend 1!) so at least I know I'm not alone. :p

    Posted in: Rogue
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    posted a message on Shadowstep

    So, I've been wondering about this for a while now and I can't come up with the answer.

    My question is: why does everyone play Shadowstep in Tempo Rogue decks? I mean, besides the obvious Keleseth / Leroy + Shadowstep combos I don't really see many good uses for it. I've been playing without it for quite a while and I managed to get to legend so I guess it works?

    It used to sit dead in my hand most of the games and when I did use it, it always felt underwhelming. It's seems so situational and there are better cards that can be used to replace it. I haven't had any trouble finishing games, don't seem to lack the damage from Leroy + Shadowstep, Kele + Shadowstep happens so rarely (getting Kele in the first turns is already hard enough, even when you hard mulligan for it) that it seems to hardly matter. Kele on turn 2 is good enough already anyway, no need for Shadowstep.

    So, what are Shadowstep's other good uses? All the other combinations with Tempo Rogue's minions seem kinda meh, except for maybe Vilespine Slayer. Or Edwin VanCleef... Or maybe SI:7 Agent. Eh... Situational.

    Please enlighten me, share your opinion, prove I'm wrong, something like that. I need to understand what's so good (or not) about this card. After 200ish games with the deck (and several variations) I still don't understand. Does it really increase the deck's overall winrate more than other possible cards?

    I honestly don't miss the card in my deck...

    Posted in: Rogue
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    posted a message on BlizzCon's Golden Legendary is Marin the Fox! Bonus: Virtual Ticket Giveaway

    It's probably going to be about pirates and the sea? Golakka Crawler value

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    posted a message on Prince Keleseth Without Pirates

    The problem is now everyone and their moms run Golakka Crawlers and MCT which kinda makes the pirate package a bit worse.

    That's been my experience lately, maybe I've just been unlucky.

    I too would like to find a decent alternative to the pirates but I can't come up with anything decent.

    Posted in: Rogue
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    posted a message on Prince Keleseth

    Yeah, that's what it looks like it says. Noticed this the other day too but completely forgot about it. 

    Posted in: Prince Keleseth
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    posted a message on Do you BM pirate warriors?

    Sometimes. Not particularly proud of it but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. :p

    Posted in: General Discussion
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    posted a message on Pirate Warrior.. Why wouldn't you?

    Here's an analogy for you: I'm playing a video game against a friend. I can play the actual game against him and actually have FUN doing it (interesting decks) OR I can throw my own poop at him and easily win the game (and life) right then and there, though I do lose my dignity and friend, but it's an easy and fast win (pirate warrior).

    The moral of the story is no one wins when playing pirate warrior cos you may have won the game but now you got shit on your hands and you just lost a friend (and possibly some teeth).

    Posted in: Warrior
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    posted a message on Yong Woo: Easier to get Wild Cards, Deckslots, Promo Heroes are Coming Back
    Quote from Malconvoker >>

    Yes. And complaining about rewards still makes more sense than about 90% complains on this forum. 

     No it still doesn't make any goddamn sense my man/woman/apache helicopter. The fact that you cannot see it kinda scares me lol. It's a reward. Something you get for doing something. It's a nice little bonus for the people that play ranked.
    So... According to you, all the rewards should be given to people when they log in? Quest, arena, brawl and constructed rewards would all be given when you log in, that way people don't miss out on anything! Right? RIGHT?? If you, your friend, or whoever are playing the game for the rewards only, ya'll are doing it wrong.
    Posted in: News
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