I just waned sure a quick lol at people saying rogue has "Bad" spells. Sap and free early kill Backstab are two of stupidest spells I've seen, Cold blood is 4 more dmg for just one mana...are you kidding me?! Evis 4 dmg for 2. Walk the plank remove kills something for ONLY 4 mana! Think of other cards that destroy a minion regardless of hp...siphon soul at 6? Naturalize which also gives your opponent cards (good or bad depending on how youre playing). Vanish is obnoxious.
Aka that's bullshit.
shadowstep hooktusk
6 mana hookstusk, prep+ barrage 15 dmg spread around if your board was actually empty which if you just hooktusk last turn it is unlikely and at least 4 minion (3 with rush) on the board.
they might actually not hall of fame anything this time. DKs are going away and they are shaping the meta way harder than any classic or basic card is doing rn.
Another card they probably have considered might be gadgetzan auctioneer but the card enables such cool comboes that it would be a shame if they actually rotated it. Same reason why i hope they don't rotate malygos.
Malygos, Mind Control Tech and Preparation would probably be my picks. MCTech hasn't seen as much play since the new expansion hit, but it's still just some of the worst RNG in the game and they've already removed it from Arena, which could be a hint they'll move it to HOF soon. Maly needs to go just to freshen up the meta a bit and open design space for cheaper damage spells and new combo decks. It's also time for Prep to go, it will allow them to print stronger and less expensive spells for Rogue in the future.
I don't see the point of HoF Preparation. Yes, the card is very powerful and it may limit design space for new Rogue spells as they always have to take this card in consideration when creating them. However, even if they HoF it, there's nothing they can do about the balancing of the spells as Prep will still exist. Wild is a thing, you know? And people play there a lot. If they HoF Prep and start releasing new cards that are not balanced around it, they won't be a problem in standard but wild will become a nightmare because those new spells will become absurdly powerful with Prep in wild. People will complain a lot and they may lose long time players because of it. It will be a huge headache for them. So there's no point in moving it to the HoF. They need to either rebalance or redesign the card.
Malygos and power word shield and acolyte of pain. No special reason just my picks as they usually pick three.
Would be nice to see some old expansion cards used to replace them in standard maybe some naxramas cards moved to standard ? Loatheb ? Deathlord and Unstable Ghoul , wishfull thinking on my part :(
Removing Malygos would literally remove an archtype from Standard. Which is pretty much what Blizzard wants, right? A more diverse Standard every year? I'm a Wild player myself, so I kinda hope he gets the boot, but it would make sense.
why would prep go hof? its rogues thing. thats most of the time they gain tempo. except rn there are odd rogue and kelerogue.
they cant do it like mage which can arcane intellect , take damage and then nuke the board.
and i dont see they would print wanted for 1 mana or even 2 mana. its not only lowers the spells cost, you also need prep to do that which means losing card advantage for tempo. or necrium vial for 2 mana..
with so many classes having tempo options and prep hofed, rogue would have anything special going on for them.
All of these are trash except maybe Leeroy. I see Cold Blood and Divine Favor as a potential canidate and that's about it. Removing strong cards from classes because they're strong is a horrible idea and will the classic set with nothing.
To be completely honest, the only card you list that could actually be considered is Leeroy. None of the others are that much of a problem to be permanently removed from stabdard. It's not because a card is annoying that it should be removed. And as most cards listed belong in aggro or tempo decks, your analysis looks like it was made by a bitter control player. Control is my favourite archetype, yet none of these cards deserve the HoF treatment.
I was on board with doomguard until I thought about Guldan rotating out with cube as well.....except plenty of decks use doomguard in a similar fashion to Leeroy and honestly anything that would break the braindead decks in this game needs to go. That or implement declare blockers already and change the taunt mechanic to be able to block more than one.
That being said, I could easily see Hyena, Doomguard, and Leeroy go. Hunter needs a massive nerf still. Look at the play rate for DS Rexxar.
MCT is the most important card hall of fame just unfun rng flame imp will be nice an also nurish clerik kill all the OP one drops
Oh no a card that makes you actually think before you flood the board and just keep on going face?!?! Yeah, sorry, but the unfun thing is people like you who think you shouldn't be punished for your board.
they might actually not hall of fame anything this time. DKs are going away and they are shaping the meta way harder than any classic or basic card is doing rn.
Another card they probably have considered might be gadgetzan auctioneer but the card enables such cool comboes that it would be a shame if they actually rotated it. Same reason why i hope they don't rotate malygos.
Freezing Trap doesn't have the impact and restriction that the only other secret moved to HoF had: Ice Block. None of the current secrets are even close to Ice Block's power.
At the moment I don’t see a reason to HoF anything.
No card seems so strong that it sees play everywhere ( like azure drake ) , and like others mentioned, removing important classcards like Preparation would cause many further problems since all spells are kinda made with prep in mind. So just because one card is very important and strong, and some people like to see it gone, they won’t rework all other class card.
I just waned sure a quick lol at people saying rogue has "Bad" spells. Sap and free early kill Backstab are two of stupidest spells I've seen, Cold blood is 4 more dmg for just one mana...are you kidding me?! Evis 4 dmg for 2. Walk the plank remove kills something for ONLY 4 mana! Think of other cards that destroy a minion regardless of hp...siphon soul at 6? Naturalize which also gives your opponent cards (good or bad depending on how youre playing). Vanish is obnoxious.
Aka that's bullshit.
shadowstep hooktusk
6 mana hookstusk, prep+ barrage 15 dmg spread around if your board was actually empty which if you just hooktusk last turn it is unlikely and at least 4 minion (3 with rush) on the board.
Fun > Meta
MAAAAAYBE they hall of fame malygos. MAYBE
MAYBE they rotate freezing trap. MAYBE
they might actually not hall of fame anything this time. DKs are going away and they are shaping the meta way harder than any classic or basic card is doing rn.
Another card they probably have considered might be gadgetzan auctioneer but the card enables such cool comboes that it would be a shame if they actually rotated it. Same reason why i hope they don't rotate malygos.
Doomsayer for sure and leeroy.
Malygos, Mind Control Tech and Preparation would probably be my picks.
MCTech hasn't seen as much play since the new expansion hit, but it's still just some of the worst RNG in the game and they've already removed it from Arena, which could be a hint they'll move it to HOF soon.
Maly needs to go just to freshen up the meta a bit and open design space for cheaper damage spells and new combo decks.
It's also time for Prep to go, it will allow them to print stronger and less expensive spells for Rogue in the future.
I don't see the point of HoF Preparation. Yes, the card is very powerful and it may limit design space for new Rogue spells as they always have to take this card in consideration when creating them. However, even if they HoF it, there's nothing they can do about the balancing of the spells as Prep will still exist. Wild is a thing, you know? And people play there a lot. If they HoF Prep and start releasing new cards that are not balanced around it, they won't be a problem in standard but wild will become a nightmare because those new spells will become absurdly powerful with Prep in wild. People will complain a lot and they may lose long time players because of it. It will be a huge headache for them. So there's no point in moving it to the HoF. They need to either rebalance or redesign the card.
Malygos and power word shield and acolyte of pain. No special reason just my picks as they usually pick three.
Would be nice to see some old expansion cards used to replace them in standard maybe some naxramas cards moved to standard ? Loatheb ? Deathlord and Unstable Ghoul , wishfull thinking on my part :(
Removing Malygos would literally remove an archtype from Standard. Which is pretty much what Blizzard wants, right? A more diverse Standard every year? I'm a Wild player myself, so I kinda hope he gets the boot, but it would make sense.
I don't think anything will be HoFed this year. Maybe at best Mind Control Tech.
why would prep go hof? its rogues thing. thats most of the time they gain tempo. except rn there are odd rogue and kelerogue.
they cant do it like mage which can arcane intellect , take damage and then nuke the board.
and i dont see they would print wanted for 1 mana or even 2 mana. its not only lowers the spells cost, you also need prep to do that which means losing card advantage for tempo. or necrium vial for 2 mana..
with so many classes having tempo options and prep hofed, rogue would have anything special going on for them.
All of these are trash except maybe Leeroy. I see Cold Blood and Divine Favor as a potential canidate and that's about it. Removing strong cards from classes because they're strong is a horrible idea and will the classic set with nothing.
MCT is the most important card hall of fame just unfun rng flame imp will be nice an also nurish clerik kill all the OP one drops
mmmm doesn't really matter to me all that much since I'm gonna be an exclusively Wild player when Un'Goro rotates out.
i hope one of these cards will be retired to HoF: Divine Favor , Preparation , Explosive Trap , Mountain Giant
I was on board with doomguard until I thought about Guldan rotating out with cube as well.....except plenty of decks use doomguard in a similar fashion to Leeroy and honestly anything that would break the braindead decks in this game needs to go. That or implement declare blockers already and change the taunt mechanic to be able to block more than one.
That being said, I could easily see Hyena, Doomguard, and Leeroy go. Hunter needs a massive nerf still. Look at the play rate for DS Rexxar.
Oh no a card that makes you actually think before you flood the board and just keep on going face?!?! Yeah, sorry, but the unfun thing is people like you who think you shouldn't be punished for your board.
I am thinking MCTech, and Prep. Before the nerfs I would have said Nourish as well. They might still unnerf it and HoF it.
Freezing Trap doesn't have the impact and restriction that the only other secret moved to HoF had: Ice Block. None of the current secrets are even close to Ice Block's power.
Malygos, preparation, Leeroy and possibly un-nerfing wild growth and sending it to wild (similar to molten giant).
At the moment I don’t see a reason to HoF anything.
No card seems so strong that it sees play everywhere ( like azure drake ) , and like others mentioned, removing important classcards like Preparation would cause many further problems since all spells are kinda made with prep in mind. So just because one card is very important and strong, and some people like to see it gone, they won’t rework all other class card.
HoF Preparation? And kill all current Rogue Spells? Sure. Why not? They already pretty much deleted Druid until the next Rotation. Why not Rogue?
For fucks sake...
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