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Quote from LordPikachuStarscream >>

Okay so, what I was saying is that Jade Idol produces a situation where you are racing against the clock, and OTK decks do the same thing. You have to beat Jade Druid before they go infinite, and you have to beat OTK decks before they kill you. I wasn't trying to say that Jade Druid is an example of an OTK deck; just that you have to play against it the same way you would against OTK decks. Nobody says that OTK decks make control unplayable, so they shouldn't say that about Jade Druid because if OTK decks didn't banish all control decks from the game, this other deck which requires the same exact answers logically shouldn't banish them from the game either. 

At this point though, I feel it is in my better interest to stop responding to you. Sometimes I make a communication error and so the person I'm talking to misunderstands my point, and that's on me. But in this case, it's *so* obvious that Jade Druid is not an OTK deck, you should have never assumed I was calling it one. You should have looked for a different interpretation, but instead you misunderstood my comment on purpose so that you'd have something easier to attack. For you to accuse me of strawmanning multiple times only to turn around and do this is just more than I'm in the mood to deal with, especially after having already talked in circles about this for so long. I'm sure you're a cool guy and all, but this just doesn't seem like it's going anywhere.

Edit: Sorry if this came off a bit harsh. 

All Combo decks can be countered in a way - Combo decks can be outvalued - but jade can only be countered by killing them fast enough and that is not fun to play against as a control player since they are forced to play aggro which goes against any control minded player's instinct.

Quote from Lephas >>

jade can only be countered by killing them fast enough

Quote from Krafulu >>

HS though is essentially designed around certain decks having a higher win % against some decks than others. By counter I do mean "Jade Druid will win more often than not vs control." Just as Jade Druid struggles heavily vs aggro. 

And you can say the same for many decks where they are good vs X but bad vs Y. 

So I just don't see why it's bad that control has a counter that beats it commonly. 

Quote from Krafulu >>

I'm still struggling to see what's so bad about having a counter to control decks. Nearly every deck has some counter. 

Also, how often does this "nightmare" situation even happen? 

Quote from comebacker >>

The real problem is not that jade counters control, it's that the jade mechanic in itself is uncounterable, its pure stats, I think they should be 1/1 jades with buffs, same mechanic but silencable, let ppl tech against it. If u play a slower deck without face dmg, and ur opponent has a 3/3 jade on turn 3 it's gg.Even a chicken will outvalue u from there, 1 mana 11/11 u deal with it, then here's a special 1 mana 12/12 just for u, thx.

It's because the cancer card Drakonid Operative is garbage against jade and pirates decks! :P And btw the dragon priest is just a stupidly boring deck.