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No deck is autopilot to high ranks, or everyone would be playing it. "Guaranteed Legend" isn't a thing.
Focus on improving your gameplay and minimizing your mistakes. Choose one good deck, and learn it inside and out. You'll find you naturally climb higher as your skill improves.
Good luck. :-)
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It actually doesn't matter if Fel Reaver is removed because the goal of this deck is just to dump a whole bunch of garbage minions on the board and go for face. Fel Reaver works in decks where you don't care about most of the cards. The only bad burns in this deck are Imp Gang Boss and the other Fel Reaver. Many pro players regard Fel Reaver as good card. From my experience seeing and playing with the card, you can still win the game even if it gets BGHed. If it sticks around, you almost always win.
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Proof of Legend
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Testing this deck, 6 games, 6 wins so far. (3 tempo mages, 1 handlock, 1 zoodemonlock, 1 mech shaman)
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Page works fine now, gives you this image for pre-order bonuses (Digital Deluxe only seemingly)
EDIT : Not sure how this warrants a downvote...
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That Reaver Lock looks pretty sweet. I'll have to give it a spin.
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One of the major misconceptions about Aggro is it mindless and requires no skill. In some cases this is much more true, most notably because Hearthstone has Hero powers, which are a source of free value, and this makes decks like the infamous Face Hunter into this horrible thing a lot of people hate because you really don't need that much skill to play it. However, most other classes aggro decks do still require some deeper thought, thinking about what you can and can't beat, what you can and can't afford to play around. Hearthstone is very swingy, board states can change dramatically and you can effectively lose a game by walking into your opponents best plays. I know we've all had those moments where its like you can win next turn but if your opponent has the 3 cards they need they probably win, and they have this perfect storm of cards and win the game.
Aggro gets the flack for being too prominent and control being too weak, but I think the bigger issue is that certain control decks are so much stronger than others they push those decks out of the meta. Every control deck has answers for aggro, but its also the answers they have against other control decks that makes them viable. Control Warrior and Handlock are the real stalwarts because of how good they are against aggro and control. Priest for example can either be the best control deck against aggro or the best control deck against control but it can't be both at the same time, its cards aren't as directly potent, even though they have some of the individually strongest cards for specific match ups, they are dead or at least mostly dead in others.
All the different deck varieties help keep the meta in check. Without aggro in the meta control and combo reign, and that means a lot more games are either won by someone getting their big OTK turn off, or by going to fatigue because the control mirrors are so tuned for value no one ever gets to win with their cards. This means if the meta is just Control and Combo, Combo is much more likely to take over the meta because it will almost always have time to assemble its cards. That doesn't seem any more enjoyable to me personally. Aggro means control and combo have to play fair, they have to have that spectrum of answers, rather than just goldfishing their wins.
Aggro certainly has its place in the meta. Aggro can require as much skill or thought as control even if some times it doesn't. Aggro vs Aggro is particularly skill testing, though obviously any card game is RNG based, HS obviously more than most.
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Most of the time when people say a deck dosen't work it is not so much about the deck but they are looking for some advice going around downvoting the complaints solves very little.
Then those people need to say "hey this deck isn't working for me, what am I doing wrong?" instead of saying stuff "this crap deck doesn't work in this meta, gets torn apart easily. Good luck making legend with this weak deck. 2/10". There's a huge difference between asking for advice vs declaring a deck is just bad and can't possibly be good regardless of skill. These people are morons and they don't help anything by downvoting decks just because they don't know how to use the class properly or because they have unrealistic expectations for a class that is actually just weak compared to the stronger classes. And btw, if the last comment was aimed toward me, I was not the one downvoting people who complained. I don't bother with that, even for people who complain about my own decks.
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As a MtG and Yu-gi-oh player this is what irritates me the most and something I simply can not understand, Additional Summoning costs should have to be paid fully in order to summon the creature. Simple as that.
There is no such thing in Hearthstone as "additional summoning costs." Minions only cost mana. Always. A battlecry effect has nothing to with cost. You don't "pay" 3 damage to an enemy with Fire Elemental. Not to be rude, but you shouldn't be posting here complaining about things you don't like in this game when you haven't even bothered to learn the rules. It's not MTG, it's not Yu-Gi-Oh, it's Hearthstone. It's a different game!
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What Shaman needs are solid early game minions, like what Paladins got with Shielded Minibot. Hopefully Blizzard addresses this issue and Shamans get some love love in the next expansion like what happened to Paladins in GvG and BRM.
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My 2 cents, but you shouldn't craft all goldens of a deck you haven't even played yet, much less become proficient at. Most decklists vary over time, so I'd just craft goldens of power cards and fill in the gaps as you commit to a particular list (and become proficient with it). Power cards would include stuff like Knife Juggler and one Ironbeak Owl for Aggro, Sludge Belchers for Control, and then maybe things every deck in that class will use (SI:7 Agent and Eviscerate for Rogue, Shielded Minibot for Paladin, Keeper of the Grove for Druid, Death's Bite and Cruel Taskmaster for Warrior, Eaglehorn Bow and Savannah Highmane for Hunter, etc.).
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you used a "0" and an "O" in the same username... 4/10 bro. How could you?! :P
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Here's how I view the aggro aspect of hearthstone:
1. It needs to exist. Without it, the meta would be much staler as you could run a deck designed to counter say combo decks or control decks, without having to worry about being rofl-stomped by aggro. This is especially true in tournaments where you have to win with all your decks, and why you don't see like a druid with 2x Big Game Hunter and 2x Naturalize. Sure it may wreck some control decks and eat handlock alive, but hunter would fry it in no time.
2. Hearthstone unfortunately is designed in such a way that aggro is encouraged heavily. Aggro cards are just cheaper. Aside from a few cards (Millhouse Manastorm, King Mukla, Leeroy Jenkins, Shadow Bomber, Enhance-o-Mechano and Fel Reaver), most aggro cards are cheap (Rare, Common or Basic). It's also worth noting that those cards aren't considered auto-includes (much less good) in ANY viable deck archetype, with only Leeroy having a regular spot in Hunter. Taking a look at good control/combo/midrange decks, there are many Epics and Legendaries that are usually auto-includes, I'm looking at cards like Preparation, Quartermaster, Ancient of War, Cabal Shadow Priest, Doomsayer, Molten Giant, Ice Block, Sylvanas Windrunner, Dr. Boom and Tirion Fordring. This means that new players/players with low budgets will gravitate to aggro decks simply because it's a literal impossibility for them run a competitive non-aggro deck.
3. Aggro is really easy to hard counter, the only reason no one does it is because those decks usually struggle against non-aggro decks due to not being able to deal with big threats or present any threats of their own. Because of that, people usually only have a few anti-aggro techs such as Antique Healbot. With full on face aggro, your win condition is literally your opponent not running and/or drawing their answers before they die. So when you feel like you could not have won a match because of your draws (in a aggro/non-aggro matchup), remember that if answers were in your deck they could just as easily say the same thing. They have positive winrates only if their opponents don't draw answers more than they do, hence they usually go for face since each turn on is alive is another turn to draw an answer and flip the game into their favor.
Also, this game is not nearly as saturated with hunter as it was a couple seasons ago. Attached is an analysis of 50 games yesterday as I was goofing off grinding towards a golden warlock (was playing between 15 and 10). As you an see, only 7 out of 50 games were against hunters. Don't bother mentioning that I lost most of them, Warlock generally is unfavored vs. hunter.
Is Aggro too prevalent? Maybe, but that's the fault of the game, not the archetype.
My two cents.
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Really enjoying this deck, a nice change from more removal based Oil Rogue lists. :)
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I was testing the deck without deathlords since it can really hurt the control MU if it pulls out something big. Right now I'm testing -1 Cabal -1 Resurrect +2 Deathlords, will update this list if I decide to stick with that.
Thoughtsteal is great, except that it can be completely useless by clogging your hand with cards you will never use, which isn't good vs. slow decks since you will often be at 8+ cards, and it's useless vs. aggro as you don't have time to draw or play what you draw.
I think that sludge belcher is too good by itself to drop, even tho it's not great with resurrect. Especially if I drop down to just one copy of resurrect. I think that between the other minions in the deck, the odds are in my favor to get something good. :)
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I noticed the game is lacking good midgame dragons, so here's one that hopefully fits the theme:
Flavor text: "They'll never admit it, but Crimson Drakes are really generous with buffs."
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Except that it doesn't have charge, so the faceless copy will have summoning sickness.
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You're not being bullied, and honestly I don't know what you're looking for here.
Sympathy? BS happens, which I admit sucks. Just yesterday I had implosion roll a 2, 7 times in a row. I've been wrecked 0-3 in arena when I had 4 fire elementals in the deck cuz I got matched against a rogue, hunter and warlock that rushed me down.
Tips? That's what I (and others) are trying to give.
If you're going to just complain about RNG, and want others to join in with you, I will just lock the thread as nothing constructive will come out of it.
No one's trying to bully you, we're honestly trying to help you move on to what's next. But if you want to focus on solely the negatives of admittedly bad luck, this thread will be viewed as a cesspool and I will lock it down.
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He was not being insulting, he was asking for you to self-evaluate. There are MANY players who overestimate their own ability, and fail to see their own misplays. Without videos/extensive photo records of the matches, it's impossible to prove if you actually made all the right plays or not.
With that in mind, you aren't going to make people want to help you if you rant on when they ask you to look in a mirror. Heck, even top-tier players make misplays and have to reanalyze their games to see if they made the right plays or not.
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Due to the random nature of arena, some times everything will line up against you. Sometimes you won't draw a playable minion until turn 5 even with an absurdly good deck. Sometimes your opponent will draft an insane deck and draw insanely well. The attached picture happened to me the other day (my opponent played a perfect tempo mage deck in arena). Sometimes you will get a decent draft good for 4-5 wins, but you'll get matched early on with people who have 12 win decklists but are only on game 2 so the game just matches 2 1-0 players together and you get ROFLstomped.
The only way I can avoid tilt when crap like that happens is to just remember the times the stars aligned for me. Take screenshots/videos of games you had no business winning, and just look at them when RNG beats you to a pulp. Remember that karma is a bit like Trade Prince Gallywix: She provides the beatings and demands you pay up! It happens to even the best of us.
I'll leave you with some life advice that's relevant even here: "The master has failed more than the novice has even tried." If you're willing to learn and improve your game, then just push through your rage and don't quit, and you'll do better (as long as you actually stop if you tilt, to give yourself time to cool down).