Why is there a new version of this thread like, every couple of days? We get it, people are butthurt about losing to Warlock. It's not the single strongest deck, nor is it alone in the upper echelon of decks right now.
There are always going to be top decks/classes and there will always be bottom decks/classes. Save your whining for when something is actually oppressive and unbeatable.
You are mistaken... What people puts as easy and self-piloting decks are face decks, the ones you can put a bot to farm all day long.
Aggro in itself is actually easier to play than control, given, but it requires the feeling of when is the right time to trade and when you should go face.
Pirate Warrior, Face Shaman, Face Hunter... Those decks require very little of this feeling, since 95% of the time it is correct to ignore your opponent's board as you want to burst'em down no matter what. Those decks generates races, where no one is having fun (I, at least, hate that feeling of "despair" when trying to survive or to finish the other guy), and that's that.
I don't think I ever heard about bots playing Zoo, for instance, and you most likely have never heard people complaining about this deck or the ones playing it.
The average face deck is actually WAY harder to play well than the average low curve midrange deck(ie zoo, midrange hunter, murloc pally, etc), mostly because when you do make a mistake as a face deck, you get punished way harder.
Sadly, right now there really aren't any hard decks to play in the game, on ANY archetype. People just like to pretend whatever they play is hard because it feeds their e-penis to do so.
Hmm, I'm going to have to disagree with you on there being a lack of difficult decks in the game. Razakus Priest is not an easy deck at all to play. It might have a really simple win condition (Raza 5, Anduin 8, Velen + Mind Blast 9) but getting to that point isn't cut and dry. Being a singleton deck means it really needs to manage its removal against aggressive decks, especially with the addition of Corridor Creeper, and against certain late game decks (namely Big/Jade Druid) dealing with armor isn't too much better.
As for the actual topic of the thread, it's just viewed as scummy or whatever because it's typically the bane of any unrefined or meme deck that people try to play, not because of their actual power level, unless you want to talk about decks that are currently no longer in standard (cough Huntertaker cough)
I haven't updated this list to KnC yet, I've been playing with other decks too much recently. Everything I've posted in this list came from before the expansion, and I haven't figured out what I'm doing with the list yet from here.
I actually never hold Soulfire, and I only hold Mortal Coil vs Hunter/Shaman if the rest of my pre-mull hand is horrid.
As for Demonfire, I'm personally not a fan since that could potentially gip the power of Keleseth, not to mention Soulfire's damage is worthwhile even with the discard thanks to Malch Imp
If you want a board clear in an aggressive deck like that, the best option is one that most of your deck doesn't die to (Demonwrath). But in reality, your list looks like it is torn between being aggressive and trying to not fall off in the mid-game, most of which I see in Voidcaller and Fearsome Doomguard. It feels like a really awkward dance in-between lines, and it's also a bit hard for me to give good advice about Wild since I don't know that metagame well enough at all.
I mean, I still find this game incredibly worth it. But it's because I don't play anymore for the climb. I still enjoy climbing, and my friends and I always muse about the possibility of me deciding to actually work towards going pro. But my favorite aspect of the game hasn't gone anywhere (right after KoFT), and when it leaves then I leave with it.
It is a bit harder right now since this deck did its dynamic climb at the end of the Nov season, so people are still condensed in the 17-15 range, but you can definitely do it.
I think that it could work. I never did it because I didn't struggle against control and I also just don't like Vicious Fledgling as a card. It definitely seems viable though.
Lol both decks definitely work well, and it's possible that the draws were off on one side of the other. I would honestly place all zoo matchups at a solid 50-50, leaning to whoever gets the earlier Keleseth
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If you've already completed the Monster Hunt on that class, it can roll other bosses aside from their Nemesis.
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Thanks!
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Why is there a new version of this thread like, every couple of days? We get it, people are butthurt about losing to Warlock. It's not the single strongest deck, nor is it alone in the upper echelon of decks right now.
There are always going to be top decks/classes and there will always be bottom decks/classes. Save your whining for when something is actually oppressive and unbeatable.
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Blood of The Ancient One
9 Attack
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I haven't updated this list to KnC yet, I've been playing with other decks too much recently. Everything I've posted in this list came from before the expansion, and I haven't figured out what I'm doing with the list yet from here.
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I actually never hold Soulfire, and I only hold Mortal Coil vs Hunter/Shaman if the rest of my pre-mull hand is horrid.
As for Demonfire, I'm personally not a fan since that could potentially gip the power of Keleseth, not to mention Soulfire's damage is worthwhile even with the discard thanks to Malch Imp
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If you want a board clear in an aggressive deck like that, the best option is one that most of your deck doesn't die to (Demonwrath). But in reality, your list looks like it is torn between being aggressive and trying to not fall off in the mid-game, most of which I see in Voidcaller and Fearsome Doomguard. It feels like a really awkward dance in-between lines, and it's also a bit hard for me to give good advice about Wild since I don't know that metagame well enough at all.
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If I'm not mistaken, this is the list: https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/deck-library/warlock-decks/zoo-warlock/standard-zoo-warlock-2/
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I heard you liked memes?
Check out this The Darkness Mill Rogue deck then,
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I mean, I still find this game incredibly worth it. But it's because I don't play anymore for the climb. I still enjoy climbing, and my friends and I always muse about the possibility of me deciding to actually work towards going pro. But my favorite aspect of the game hasn't gone anywhere (right after KoFT), and when it leaves then I leave with it.
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Eviscerate
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I have faith that you can take the deck higher :D
It is a bit harder right now since this deck did its dynamic climb at the end of the Nov season, so people are still condensed in the 17-15 range, but you can definitely do it.
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I think that it could work. I never did it because I didn't struggle against control and I also just don't like Vicious Fledgling as a card. It definitely seems viable though.
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Lol both decks definitely work well, and it's possible that the draws were off on one side of the other. I would honestly place all zoo matchups at a solid 50-50, leaning to whoever gets the earlier Keleseth