Hearthpwn

No but it is useless late game, and is VERY oozable then. Think about it, opponent has this around turn 9 or 10, they are planning on dumping their hand and using the last charge to gain 10 mana, you can just destroy it with an ooze and they basically lose a Kun.

To all you people playing this to climb, this deck is meant for fun. Obviously if you want fast climbs play tier 1 netdecks off Vicious Syndicate such as Tempo Rogue, Murloc pally, or Raza priest. If you want to have fun and occasionally win, you can try decks like these.

Quote from moonsorrow999 >>

People were too scared to admit the nerfs were actually good. In fact, they were amazing. Pirate warrior is no longer the go-to aggro deck as things stand and Jade Druid isn't quite as good. Things are shaken up and it seems like most classes have a few good archetypes and all classes are easily playable. Nobody would ever say well done Blizzard or anything though, it's always complain and cry and whine. Most people don't get this game.

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Whoever voted ''no'' here is either a Priest player or trolling. Razakus has a good matchup against everything (and I mean it) in the meta except Quest Mage. The deck has answers to everything: Aggro, Midrange, other Control decks, starvation in Africa and the situation between North Korea and USA. Multiple cards in that deck need a nerf, not Fiery War Axe or Hex lmao.

 Voted no and I play mid hunter.  Poor Highlander has the card they need to beat me in the deck but never seems to have it in hand, sniff, tear.

 You sound like the only one to me lol, I play some sort of Aggro Hunter and I swing back and forth from rank 2-4 only because of the disgusting amount of priests I run into, and they regularly have Lash, dragonfire, priest of the feast to reno themselves etc. Also see Raza turn 5 and/or Kazakus turn 4 about 70% of the time. The reason why Priest supposedly has poor stats on the ladder is because people in rank 10-25 are probably piloting the deck poorly (which I find really hard to believe but ok) so they lose to all kind of aggro and midrange. In rank 5-Legend, based on personal experience (60-80 games a day), priest is top dog. To hell with stats guys, the big ranks are where the meta matters.

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In this thread:  People citing FACTS based on ACTUAL DATA collected from the CURRENT META vs. people citing small sample sizes and thier own inability to design a counter deck if they are facing it a lot.  

PS - Vicious Syndicate is not the only source of meta data out there.  Try to keep up.

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What damn ladder are you playing on? NA it is literally Priest Priest Priest. Razakus has run wild, I haven't seen a jade druid in two days. I've seen more control warlocks than druids. All I face is basically Razakus priests anymore.

Since the Vicious Syndicate meta report post nerf has not been released, I created this thread to get the general experience other players are having on ladder. Having spoken to several legend players, and others around my current rank (10), there is a consensus that close to half of the matches are against priest, and more specifically Razakus priest. With the decline of jade druid they were supposed to see an uptick in winrate, but from my experience they are overpowered. The deck simply has too many answers, and the only response I am seeing from other players right now is "beat them before they draw answers." Basically it feels like a non-interactive deck. Blizzard always said they wanted more interaction in matches, but with the way Razakus plays, you are playing vs their draw. They have more answers than anyone in the game.

Also on average priest is supposed to have Raza on 5 and DK anduin on 8 only 48% of the time, but I am seeing numbers way above that. There are many decks I have no shot vs priest with, where at least vs other decks it seems the winrate is at least 40%. Considering in today's matches I faced priests in 5 out of 6 games, all Razakus, and yesterday 9 out of 20 matches were priest, with 8 being Razakus. Will Blizzard look to nerf some of the power of this deck? Or will they claim the winrate should even out based on draw? I tried the deck myself, and while not fun, was able to muster a ~70% winrate from 14-11. The deck plays itself, you draw answers or you don't. I don't think that is very fun to play against, and most other players I consult with agree. A meta is more fun when it is diverse.

Yea people need to understand not every deck is designed to be tier 1 climb to legend. Some decks are made to be fun and able to occasionally win. I would say completely idiotic decks that can't win are stupid, but some like this that can win a few when you don't care about rank are cool sometimes.

Wild is saved!

I clicked in Rumble Run, and get here...

SHouldn't that be fixed?

One idea would be putting in Lab Recruiters to guarantee having some pirates in your deck for Hooktusk. Its worth considering at least!

They’re gonna milk this game as much as possible until Artifact and Gwent 1.0 comes out aren’t they? It was bad enough that they were charging $50 to preorder loot boxes, but now there’s a second preorder option, the Mega Bundle.

For those who don’t know, the regular preorder bundle is $50, and comes with 50 cardpacks, the Mecha-Jaraxxus cardback, and a free golden legendary card.

Now the Mega Bundle on the other hand is $80! What do you get for 80? You still get the cardback and golden legendary, but instead of 50 cardpacks you get 80, as well as an alternate Warlock hero portrait: Mecha-Jaraxxus.

That’s it. That’s all you get. For $30 more dollars you get a few more glorified loot boxes and a skin. $80 for a hero portrait, and it’s one that the majority of people will want too. This is beyond ridiculous. For two years they have been offering hero portraits for free where we had to do something to get them, like play WoW, or go to a Fireside Gathering, or beat Frozen Throne. They were all great. But now, they’ve locked a skin of a very popular character behind a $80 preorder paywall, that once the expansion launches you can’t get it anymore. They also said there are no plans to rerelease Mecha-Jaraxxus, so anyone who wanted to get that skin are out of luck.

I cannot fathom how ludicrous this is. $80 and all they’re offering is a skin, a skin that is highly popular. I know why they did it too, because they know people love Jaraxxus so they made him an expensive preorder bonus.

I beg you, do not buy this Mega Bundle. Vote with your wallet. Show ActiBlizz this is too far and horribly anti-consumer.

EDIT

So there's been a lot of the same comments in this thread just boggle my mind. There are people actually defending this awful bundle. So I'm gonna address every frequent comment that I've been seeing.

• It's a good deal! 80 packs for $80!

First of all, it's asinine to even preorder loot boxes to begin with, but on face value, $80 for 80 packs does sound good when usually the preorders are 50 packs for $50. However, all that became null and void when the Witchwood came out. Witchwood's preorder wasn't the usual 50 packs for $50, it was 70 packs! The moment they did that bundle, a bundle a lot of people loved might I add, it makes the other preorder bundles look like shit in comparison.

Not only that, but $80 for what is ultimately a preorder for loot boxes is absurd. You know what could be done with $80? You could get a shitload of Steam games, games that are not on sale, right now, and still have money left over. You could get two $40 Nintendo Switch games. Ultimately, $80 for 80 packs is pretty crazy. 100 packs or more would've been better, or maybe include some more Golden Legendaries. Speaking of...

• But you get a Golden Legendary in the Mega Bundle, which becomes any Legendary you want!

You also get one in the normal $50 preorder as well, making that part of the bundle ultimately irrelevant.

• The hero portrait is ugly anyway!

Okay, what does that have to do with it? That's pretty subjective.

• You're not entitled to the hero portrait anyway!

Ah yes, the classic "entitled" argument. The ultimate strawman of any shill when they can't think of any else to say. 

• Who cares? It's just cosmetic

Then why do Casinowatch loot boxes sell like hotcakes? Why did people make a big deal about Nemsy? Guess it's not "just cosmetic" or else people wouldn't give a shit about them. Cosmetics are fun, they let people look differently, and that's why people like them. But besides, that, is for the past two years we were getting this shit for free. When the $10 hero portraits weren't selling, Actiblizz gave them out for free instead as rewards, and people really liked that. Now we have a hero portrait that is locked behind a limited time $80 preorder paywall, so once the preorder is gone that hero portrait cannot be earned anymore. They know people really want Mecha-Jaraxxus since Jaraxxus is one of the most popular Hearthstone characters, and people want Warlock portraits, so they made him a preorder incentive. GET HIM BEFORE HE'S GONE FOREVER!

The argument ultimately is more about the fact the hero portrait is locked to the $80 preorder. I could make the argument all day that it's a waste to preorder loot boxes and how the Mega Bundle is not so Mega, but the fact of the matter is a hero portrait is locked behind a steep preorder paywall. Why is that a big deal? Because we've been getting them for free for the past two years, and if people buy this (Which most likely they will judging from the comments I'm seeing here and on Reddit) then ActiBlizz will start doing more of these "Mega Bundles." Hero portraits will become locked to preorders and we won't get them for free anymore, for these bundles will make so much money, and because people didn't stop and say "no."

EDIT 2

Here we go again...

• But you can buy both the Mega Bundle and regular preorder and get TWO Golden Legendaries!

...do you even understand how absurd your comment is? You’re spending $130 to  preorder loot boxes twice. What the fuck is wrong with you?

• OP stop bitching and get a job! Who can’t afford $80?

Money is not an issue I assure you. It’s not about who has the money to buy the bundle. It’s about a sense of worth. Myself and many others personally don’t find the Mega Bundle worth $80, especially since they’re locking a hero portrait to it when we used to get them for free.

• Well I’m gonna buy it anyway

And these were the comments I were looking for. The comments who support the toxicity of preorder culture without giving it a second thought, then bitch when they get terrible legendaries. These are the true Blizzshills, the ones who are loyal to the brand and will defend it tooth and nail. And the funny thing is they’re paying to be shills, trying to make their ludicrous investment worth it. I suggest you watch this video by the late Totalbiscuit on why preordering (even if it offers a slightly better deal) is always a terrible idea.

EDIT 3

Wow. This has been the most divisive thread I have ever made here. There’s a shitload of toxic comments (some by me I’ll admit) but a lot of positive ones as well. Thanks guys for all the replies.

Now a lot of people have been still calling me “entitled” or saying it’s a good deal, or don’t understand what the problem is. So I’m gonna post some tl;dr bullet points at the bottom. But first, I wanna address all those who call me entitled.

First of all, I have never preordered. Never. Not for video games, and definitely not for cardpacks. I have always been against preordering, even if you get more packs. Ultimately face value, you don’t get much from preordering. What do you get? 10 more packs? That may seem like a good deal, but let’s be honest it’s highly unlikely you won’t get anything good in those ten extra packs anyway, because again, you’re preordering loot boxes. Same thing with the Mega Bundle, it’s literally just the regular preorder but more expensive. “But you get a golden legendary!” Like I said, you get one in the regular preorder as well. $80 just for one golden legendary when the $50 bundle gives you the same thing is pretty cheap don’t you think? Like, they couldn’t give you three golden legendaries instead for paying $80?

But besides the fact the Mega Bundle is just an overglorified version of the regular bundle, the main issue ultimately is the fact a new hero portrait is locked to the limited time $80 bundle. Hero portraits for two years have been free rewards, and now suddenly one has gone back to being paid, and it’s a steep paywall no less for they know people want Mecha-Jaraxxus. People say it’s just cosmetic, but the thing is those cosmetics used to be free, and now we got one that isn’t and is most likely not gonna return. (And if it does, it’ll most likely be exclusive for China just like Khadgar.)

Look, I may not be able to change your mind about preordering (because it’s a terrible business practice and always has been.) But at the very least I wanna tell you the Mega Bundle isn’t worth it, mainly because we have a hero locked to it. What if we don’t get free heroes as much anymore as they start charging for heroes again in these big bundles? We got free heroes because we told Blizzard charging $10 for heroes was too much and we didn’t buy them, so now they’re trying to tie them in with expensive preorders instead, making them appear as a bonus when it’s just extortion. That’s why this is a big deal. That’s why we need to say no and not buy the Mega Bundle. We’re the only ones who can make Blizzard stop by voting with our wallets.

tl;dr

• A new hero portrait is locked to a limited time $80 preorder when we used to get heroes for free
• If people buy this bundle it would give ActiBlizz incentive to do more and tie more heroes to them.

I TOLD YOU SO!

“Hallow’s End also marks the arrival of a friendly new Paladin Hero who will be available for purchase as a part of a special deal!”

Bad. Too slow really.

I run a more front-loaded version to deal with the hunter problem, with 2x Backstab 2x Plated Beetle 1x Bloodmage Thalnos 2x Fan of Knives and 1x Harvest Golem to deal with the early game, 2x Fungalmancer and 2x Carnivorous Cube to power up and activate deathrattles and 1x Spellbreaker as a tech. So far 4-1 against hunter (one got the nuts and ran me over). 

(Edit: forgot a couple other changes)

It's poor advice to tell people to disenchant a legendary card. If you plan to open more card packs this season it's a bad idea, because you could get that same legendary once again. Hold on to it at least until next expansion.

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How would taking out twig of the world Tree early be helpful to you?  You will have given them 10 mana crystals

 Use it on 1 durability or if they are near 10 to limit the effect of the twig. Ex. You are turn 8 and he coming up on 9 mana next turn you use weapons project and break their twig so they cant use their extra 10 mana, but they get 10 mana. Its a tradeoff that is worth it for you since you dont have to deal with their 20 mana turn

It's not a very good business scheme if the whole community ends up angry at you because you changed something later on without giving them a refund.

Also, I'm willing to bet that they'd make more money if they were better at balancing the game. Less people would leave a couple of weeks in because they won't react to very obvious bullshit which means more people still playing that may buy more cards. =)

I doubt it. If he was fired, it was because sales for the past 2 expansions have not met expectations, and tptb at blizzard think it's because of the creative decisions and not the ripoff business model forcing certain design decisions that the paying playerbase is turning away.