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Currently 6800 rating... most games I have no issues getting to top 4 minus a couple of fringe scenarios. If your flipping your whole turn looking for triples... you will just lose. Remember, if you have a triple wait til tier 4/5 to pick it up and get a tier 5/6 reward. Your really looking for Nomi, Djinn, Brann or maybe even Mama Bear. With these choices by 8-9 gold your in good shape to make top 4 everytime. Even weak synergies will get you to top 4.. ie, death rattles and that 4/2 beast. All you need to do is figure out how to get buffs on your minions each turn. When you buff your minions more than everyone else, you will the round. Scaling stats is key to survival

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There's lots of small balance changes they could do with Elementals.

Lil Rag and Majordomo Executus could effectively swap abilities.  The Executus effect is worse, so if that's what has the elemental, but and the +x/+x is now on the non-elemental, that's a minor balance nerf.  It'd also be thematically nice, since Lil'rag would now target the leftmost minion, like big Rag.

Another easy direction is doing a Mama Bear/Goldrinn sort of thing, where some tavern tiers are swapped.  What if Nomi is now a Tier 6, but Garr or Djinni gets weakened and brought down to Tier 5?  That slows down the super-scaling of Elementals, to a pace a lot closer to Dragons.

 I think if they swapped the current t5 and t6 elementals, it would be a disaster. Elementals hinge on finding nomi or rag as a triple reward, usually as an upgrade from a t4 golden triple on turn 6. Garr and Djinni just don’t boost stats of squishy minions and party elemental also falls short. The whole comp is about lil rag and nomi as early as possible.

That's the big problem, though.  Whole comp relies on one of two minions.  Miss it and the game sucks, and you have to get it early since the games are too fast.

However, Elemental power levels are a bit high, probably simply because they have *two hits* in both Rag and Nomi makes it a lot more consistent than other late-game builds.  If only Rag remains at 5, but Nomi goes to six, that's a lit more like Beasts or Pirates.  There's a reason Goldrinn and Eliza aren't on the same tavern tier as Mama Bear and Captain Hogger.

Meanwhile, being able to get Garr started at 5 instead of 6 means he's not utterly worthless.

 couldn't have said it better myself. The nerf hammer will definitely be dropped once all the data comes in, no doubt.. surprised its taking this long >.< lol .. So far since the patch I played 2 games has Rag the hero and received 2 1st places quite easily actually lol... games go so fast now because the OP heros do too much damage very early, knocking everyone out so fast! he will be getting the same treatment has elementals soon im sure haha the game needs more diversity, we need incentive to play other tribes

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blad screw BG blizzard need to fix standard and wild ranked systems first. big up myself and the horde side massive.

 Once BG came out I stopped playing wild and standard. Got to rank 2 has my best. Been playing BG every since. I didnt like the direction they were going so I switched over -.-

Just played Ragnaros for the 1st time... HE IS BEYOND BROKEN!!!

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"Our" thoughts? I hate it when people take their own opinion and project it onto the majority of the playerbase. 

 This thread is to voice everyone's (Our) opinions on battlegrounds. That is what forums are for,to conversate about their own opinions, no 1 person is right or wrong.  Its made so Blizzard can see all of our thoughts and opinions, not just mine. I hate it when people misconstrue what is being said to suit their agenda. At least now, if anyone reads yours they know your stance on what you think of BG..

 There’s two big assumptions.

1. Blizzard reads forums dedicated to their games.

2. Blizzard gives a shit.

Both have no evidence and are highly unlikely.

 I believe they do give a s@#$ or they would never release patches or balance changes. They are publicly traded, they must make $$ for their shareholders and keep them happy.. If players stop playing and spending $ that would be bad for their balance sheets. 

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"Our" thoughts? I hate it when people take their own opinion and project it onto the majority of the playerbase. 

 This thread is to voice everyone's (Our) opinions on battlegrounds. That is what forums are for,to conversate about their own opinions, no 1 person is right or wrong.  Its made so Blizzard can see all of our thoughts and opinions, not just mine. I hate it when people misconstrue what is being said to suit their agenda. At least now, if anyone reads yours they know your stance on what you think of BG..

You find them so late, by then you are already dead to some of the other comps that just work so fast.

Don't nerf him yet! I havent even tried him! I want a first place!! >.<  they nerf him to 30minion kills or +2/+2 or +3/+3 MAX

Jandice isn't much if a problem. Mechs might not be in the pool, or you might never even find a pogo til its too late. Happened to me on multiple occasions over the weekend. Shes not that bad... if anything Rag is a real problem and I havent been able to find him once yet. I cant wait to play him and get automatic top 3

 Poison murlocs are good.. but since there is no more devilsaur how do they beat divine shield? Its a fight to who gets the selfless heros, parrots first.  Judging by this thread so far and everyone saying elementals or divine shields... it's safe to say only a couple of comps work to win. All other are trash.. aka the mode is now IMBA.

Their isn't anymore variance to the game.. ita basically who can force elementals first. Might has well get rid of the majority of tribes if thats the case. Judging by what I just read.. theres no point of playing anything else but elementals.. i don't think thats healthy for the game

Hey everyone, so I decided to vent about my thoughts on BG. I would love to hear all of your thoughts and opinions on the game mode especially with the latest additions to the game. Ive never seen so many posts on BG before on HearthPwn until lately. That alone tells me their is a problem and people aren't happy. (Currently 4500, before patch i was 7200 rating)

Maybe if we get this thread big enough, someone will take notice and do something about it over there at Bliz.

Currently my rating is 4500... So I just played a game before work... was in 1st place 6 rounds straight at 37 hp... played against a high roll archthief with insane Murloc and i took 16 damage.. the very next round I played against a INSANE high roll kalthaes and took 21 from his elementals.. went from 1st the whole game and got eliminated in 7th after the last 2 rounds.. mind you we just got to the 10 coin turn.... WTF!?!?

So now my thoughts on this... 

1) the heros don't need to be nerfed except Ragnaros.. +4/+4 is too much especially with elementals.. either make it 30kills or make it +2/+2 or +3/+3, he scales way to fast. all other heros feel fine.

2) Elementals are TOO strong. Their scaling will need to be nerfed bc you can't play anything else if you want to try and win. Nothing scales fast enough to beat them. That divine shield/windfury elemental is out of control broken, he needs to go up a tier to at least 4. Also the 2/2 elemental at tier 2 will need to be nerfed to at least tier 3 in order to slow down the scaling. Then dont even get me started on little rag and nomi (nomi + sellemental)

3)  beasts pirates mechs dragons demons are all trash now.. none of these can be played if you want top 3 because its nearly impossible to scale their stats fast enough to keep up with elementals.

I believe the nerf hammer will be dropped soon bc Blizzard will see the stats and realize this soon enough I hope, the game is fresh but IMBA. Its just not fun only playing elementals to win top 3 unless you get lucky.. no more skill in BG, play elementals or get very very lucky (ie selfless heros, parrots and 1/1 poisonous ) *womp womp*

If you want to win top 3 ALWAYS play these :

Ragnaros: whatever you want
Jandice:  2x Pogos 
Elementals
Poison divine shields

Too fast.. nerf needs to happen

Received my 1st perfect game yesterday as the hero who gives you 2 gold when you upgrade. Played poisonous, goldgrubber and some elementals. 3 triples, 13 straight rounds... went from 1800 to 2100 rating. I like these changes. 

Ahhh so that's why I cant get into the game. Once in 2 weeks I got thru on Tmobile no wifi. I played all day never closed the app haha