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Quote from RavenSunHP >>

Let's take the more general case: no Reno opponent.

As Miracle, you are going kinda slow. So, if you pop this card early enough, you're likely to get at least 1x 4/4 during the match. And you paid (3) for it, so it's ok.
Good with Preparation, especially for Edwin drops.

Against Reno, you have to add the vital part where Reno is actually shut down. Possibly Kazakus too. It becomes a win condition.

The worst case is when you could have used something else instead, ie a good taunt against Aggro.
But Miracle rogues don't particularly tech against Aggro anyway, so I can't see any card being a superior tech in the current meta where pretty much 3/9 classes (3/7 if you remove Hunter and Pally from the count) use Reno.

Gang Up on Weasel Tunneler should be a suitable replacement for BTG :p

Do you think my Drain mechanic might be able to beat Reno decks? It's a keyword I invented for a class called The Soulmancer.

Considering the last two times I played it the Renolock drawed all three the next turn, and the mage drew two of of them on his turn.

@linvega2 nailed it.

The only Reno rogue has to fear is Mage, and not because of the Reno'zakus duo. Example: Miracle Rogue has an edge against Renolock, and they also run those cards too. Mage has better big target removal, has stronger and non-self inflicting AOE damage,... And even if removal isn't available yet, has always the option to freeze to delay another turn. Ice Block not only denies lethal, but can also deny tons of burst damage if activated at wrong time.

Even Leeroy combo Renolocks are in big trouble versus Mage, they can't deliver the massive killer blow that easily.

BTG is the god of bad aggro players scapegoating Reno for their failure. Yes, because I defeated many pirate warriors because they went full face with weapons, leaving a minion alive on board that secured two turns of vital trading, or, at least, something to make a Defender of Argus or a Sunfury Protector valid plays.

A few days I played an Aggro Shaman vs Aggro Warrior, got full 9 damage from Spirit Claws 3 turns in a row, not because I was lucky with hero power, but because Bloodmage Thalnos lived 4 turns... And if you ask him what went wrong, probably was because of Reno+Kazakus too.

Well, sure.

But the point is, either Reno is a serious threat for Miracle - in which case no card has more overall value than Beneath the Grounds - or it is not, in which case I wonder why the whole thread was opened.