You can always play wild - my theif rogue deck is surviving untill DK gets down with Cutless - I would call it control oriented - one of the few rogue decks I like. You can also play Theif rogue in standard, but just not as good without Antique Healbot.
About the pigeon hole thing - I hate that Blizzard keeps pushing priest in a combo direction - priest is fun to play when you steal opponents card or just outlast them - attrition style.
You can always play wild - my theif rogue deck is surviving untill DK gets down with Cutless - I would call it control oriented - one of the few rogue decks I like. You can also play Theif rogue in standard, but just not as good without Antique Healbot.
About the pigeon hole thing - I hate that Blizzard keeps pushing priest in a combo direction - priest is fun to play when you steal opponents card or just outlast them - attrition style.
Not sure about that. One of my main decks for Wild is a Dragon Priest deck that straddles the aggro/tempo line and has a very good win rate. If only Dragon Speaker had been a Priest card. Man oh man!
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clawz, sorry that there are so many users here that are just discarding ya' opinion because you are complaining about something.
I think ya do have a valid point with your complaint. Rouge should have at least a chance to go up against decks that flood the board without the use of similar aggro tools. Conjurers Mage is a nightmare to play against because there is only so much single target removal can do.
I do understand Blizzard though but what I find weird is that they made this kind of decision with the "Class Identity" very recently seeing as Plague of Madness was confirmed to have been changed very late into development because of the new Identity enforcements.
I believe Blizzard should let their users be more creative and experience the game their own way. If someone doesn't want to play Rouge like the "Idea of Rouge" that might reflect the WoW class more then let them. As long as they don't do too much damage to the game in the process. Although Vanish was a punishing card for many decks only the people that played the often inferior control Rouge ran it in their decks.
I agree. There was no reason to HoF Vanish when the only rouge deck ran it was Pogo and that deck has been stuck with 40% winrate ever seen, even before Vanish removed.
P/S Sap is not that powerful at all, it's completely useless against Warrior (either control and/or bomb), useless against CC mage, those two most popular classes at high ranks.
Let me tell you about how a card that's included in every single rogue deck and actively mulliganed for is "useless".
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I play Rouge at legend (Pogo) and I can tell how useless Sap is against Warrior or Mage (two most popular classes at high ranks) It looks strong but reality it's not. For example, people kept saying how Op Vanish was, then why no rouge except Pogo rouge ran it?
Removing Vanish to nerf Rouge is like removing Zuljin to nerf bomb Hunter rampage which of course doesn't make sense. It only hurts Pogo rouge, a very weak deck already. The fact that Pogo feeds on Warrior, removing Vanish is a buff to Warrior (and Mage) and now we constantly hear whining how Op Warrior and Mage are.
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You can always play wild - my theif rogue deck is surviving untill DK gets down with Cutless - I would call it control oriented - one of the few rogue decks I like. You can also play Theif rogue in standard, but just not as good without Antique Healbot.
About the pigeon hole thing - I hate that Blizzard keeps pushing priest in a combo direction - priest is fun to play when you steal opponents card or just outlast them - attrition style.
So why are you playing the game?
Not sure about that. One of my main decks for Wild is a Dragon Priest deck that straddles the aggro/tempo line and has a very good win rate. If only Dragon Speaker had been a Priest card. Man oh man!
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In other words: thanks for validating how I feel.
clawz, sorry that there are so many users here that are just discarding ya' opinion because you are complaining about something.
I think ya do have a valid point with your complaint. Rouge should have at least a chance to go up against decks that flood the board without the use of similar aggro tools. Conjurers Mage is a nightmare to play against because there is only so much single target removal can do.
I do understand Blizzard though but what I find weird is that they made this kind of decision with the "Class Identity" very recently seeing as Plague of Madness was confirmed to have been changed very late into development because of the new Identity enforcements.
I believe Blizzard should let their users be more creative and experience the game their own way. If someone doesn't want to play Rouge like the "Idea of Rouge" that might reflect the WoW class more then let them. As long as they don't do too much damage to the game in the process. Although Vanish was a punishing card for many decks only the people that played the often inferior control Rouge ran it in their decks.
I read the whole thing. Blah blah blah Rogue lost Vanish, and you think it ruins your experience.
Rogue has to be put in check. Everyone likes to play Rogue because of all the tools it has. Vanish was just bad. Prep was also abused.
Now Rogue has to actually build a decent deck instead of play a few minions then prep vanish and win.
People act so entitled. Card changes are necessary and healthy. I don't think I've ever complained about any of them.
Let me tell you about how a card that's included in every single rogue deck and actively mulliganed for is "useless".
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I play Rouge at legend (Pogo) and I can tell how useless Sap is against Warrior or Mage (two most popular classes at high ranks) It looks strong but reality it's not. For example, people kept saying how Op Vanish was, then why no rouge except Pogo rouge ran it?
Removing Vanish to nerf Rouge is like removing Zuljin to nerf bomb Hunter rampage which of course doesn't make sense. It only hurts Pogo rouge, a very weak deck already. The fact that Pogo feeds on Warrior, removing Vanish is a buff to Warrior (and Mage) and now we constantly hear whining how Op Warrior and Mage are.