The real problem i see, -IF THE COMBO WORKS- is that after board is full of crapsteeds (since your main combo is steed + baron), what would you play? because you will never have more space to play more minions, since they re-spawn at the moment, so all the minions in your hand will become useless.
You kill baron? then 1 minion space will be available. Nothing more, till that new non-steed minion dies, and so on.
You arent supposed to get 6. Just 4-5 so they can be used for board control when combo'd with Mal'Ganis.
The real problem i see, -IF THE COMBO WORKS- is that after board is full of crapsteeds (since your main combo is steed + baron), what would you play? because you will never have more space to play more minions, since they re-spawn at the moment, so all the minions in your hand will become useless.
You kill baron? then 1 minion space will be available. Nothing more, till that new non-steed minion dies, and so on.
You arent supposed to get 6. Just 4-5 so they can be used for board control when combo'd with Mal'Ganis.
Oh, well, if you don't want YOUR board too flooded, maybe a Loatheb to prevent AoE before you kill off Rivendare.
1. I never said "fill" the board. Ideally you will want 4-5 steeds with a maximum of 6 because Mal'Ganis is a key part of this deck. 2. Yes it does take a number of turns to make this deck work, but this deck also runs plenty of early game minions to handle the threats your opponent plays. 3. Did you read Dreadsteed? AoE doesnt matter, they summon more every time they die... So they can only "truly" die if they get silenced first, and even if they do get silenced, thats one less silence for Mal'Ganis. 4. A Sludge Belcher would only trade evenly up until you drop Mal'Ganis or until you buff the steeds. This deck does run more than just those horses you know... 5. Not if you have Mal'Ganis on the board. Thats 3 damage each. And the whole "Too mcuh clicking" holds no weight when Patron Warrior is a thing.
1. if you use baron. it will fill your board quite quickly.
3 and 5. malganis will die... big game hunter is staple in most decks now. and patron is always 3 damage, unless a nerf bat is coming to it.
Yes but if you look at every good card as "Its just gonna die, so why play it?" then why play anything? There are other ways for this deck to win, that is just the easiest way. And even if you only get 1 turn out of malganis, thats usually enough to clear the enemies board or do massive damage to the face. And turn 5 the enemy shouldnt have much in the way of minions to proc the deathrattle more than 2-3 times, which ideally how much you want it to proc. Turn 5 is a big tempo turn and most will want to play a big tempo card.
The real problem i see, -IF THE COMBO WORKS- is that after board is full of crapsteeds (since your main combo is steed + baron), what would you play? because you will never have more space to play more minions, since they re-spawn at the moment, so all the minions in your hand will become useless.
You kill baron? then 1 minion space will be available. Nothing more, till that new non-steed minion dies, and so on.
You arent supposed to get 6. Just 4-5 so they can be used for board control when combo'd with Mal'Ganis.
Oh, well, if you don't want YOUR board too flooded, maybe a Loatheb to prevent AoE before you kill off Rivendare.
You would Ideally play rivendare the turn after you play the dreadsteed. So if they only have 1 turn to control how much the deathrattle effects multiplies your steeds chances are they wont kill it more than twice resulting in 3 steeds. More often than not they would just focus removal on baron, but even then that is beneficial because then they have less for Mal'Ganis.
as it stands the scenario i can see is a stable 7 damage from 1 baron rivender and 6 steeds. quite ok... if the enemy puts a taunt minion, then the damage is allocated to the hp of the taunting minion. if you want to improve the damage by the addition of malganis or other buffing minion, baron should by sacrificed... hmmm... looking quite good actually
edit: there might be a problem against enemies with huge minions like ramp druids, handlocks, and giants mages. and of course grim patron warriors...
as it stands the scenario i can see is a stable 7 damage from 1 baron rivender and 6 steeds. quite ok... if the enemy puts a taunt minion, then the damage is allocated to the hp of the taunting minion. if you want to improve the damage by the addition of malganis or other buffing minion, baron should by sacrificed... hmmm... looking quite good actually
I have said this many times, but you DO NOT want to have 6 steeds. just 4-5 to allow you to play other cards as well, such as Mal'Ganis and Void Terror. And with Mal'Ganis on the board it 3 damage per pony. That adds up quickly.
(btw not trying to be rude, I have just typed this like 5 times already xD)
as it stands the scenario i can see is a stable 7 damage from 1 baron rivender and 6 steeds. quite ok... if the enemy puts a taunt minion, then the damage is allocated to the hp of the taunting minion. if you want to improve the damage by the addition of malganis or other buffing minion, baron should by sacrificed... hmmm... looking quite good actually
I have said this many times, but you DO NOT want to have 6 steeds. just 4-5 to allow you to play other cards as well, such as Mal'Ganis and Void Terror. And with Mal'Ganis on the board it 3 damage per pony. That adds up quickly.
(btw not trying to be rude, I have just typed this like 5 times already xD)
This thread is not a troll. I am legitimately asking for peoples opinions. 1. My name is how it is because I wanted something I thought was funny as a nickname. "Flood" isnt exactly the worlds most creative name either. 2. This deck utilizes synergies that have yet to be validated as to whether or not they will work. It IS in fact a THEORYCRAFT deck. Not a top tier one. 3. The thread title is also to be funny, they are flaming ponies and I center my deck around them, bite me. 4. And my avatar is something I found humorous. I dont judge you based on a stupid picture you added to your account that means absolutely nothing when I think of you as a person. The fact that you called my deck shit and didnt offer any constructive tips as to how to better it just makes me view you as a prick, and before today I had highly valued many of your comments on other peoples decks because you always had something to say that was benefical to the creator of the deck. Maybe your having a bad day, maybe you just arent as nice a guy as I originally thought, but either way, theres no need to be a prick when someone asks for help.
Thank you for justifying that you are not a person I should be wasting my time to talk to. Really look at what you just said. Troll
Enough people have gone into detail telling you why your deck is terrible.
This thread is not a troll. I am legitimately asking for peoples opinions. 1. My name is how it is because I wanted something I thought was funny as a nickname. "Flood" isnt exactly the worlds most creative name either. 2. This deck utilizes synergies that have yet to be validated as to whether or not they will work. It IS in fact a THEORYCRAFT deck. Not a top tier one. 3. The thread title is also to be funny, they are flaming ponies and I center my deck around them, bite me. 4. And my avatar is something I found humorous. I dont judge you based on a stupid picture you added to your account that means absolutely nothing when I think of you as a person. The fact that you called my deck shit and didnt offer any constructive tips as to how to better it just makes me view you as a prick, and before today I had highly valued many of your comments on other peoples decks because you always had something to say that was benefical to the creator of the deck. Maybe your having a bad day, maybe you just arent as nice a guy as I originally thought, but either way, theres no need to be a prick when someone asks for help.
Thank you for justifying that you are not a person I should be wasting my time to talk to. Really look at what you just said. Troll
Enough people have gone into detail telling you why your deck is terrible.
End of discussion
And yet those people are giving "CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM" and have giving me the information I was requesting to make the deck better. Youre just a dink who thinks that their opinion is law and that because you don't like the deck that nobody should put any time into trying to help me make it better. But w.e these people have been more than helpful and you are not needed, so feel free to unsubscribe and have a good one buddy
Lol well if you cant back it up with constructive criticism then ima just ignore it ;P
I dont need to back it up. its common sense its honestly like you just put all the shit cards in a deck without any thought and called it an archetype that isnt even close too
total shit
i have to agree with flood, no thought has been put in making this deck. and as for constructive criticism:
1st. 2 sea giants without any imp-losion? they will not be on field
2nd. baron rivendare only for voidcallers? baron will die before voidcaller is in your hand or on field or vice versa... or if you want to wait until you get the combo (baron + 2 voicallers + all other demons in hand)... u will die before the cards available in your hand
3rd. demonwrath? mortal coil? what for? hellfire, imp-losion and darkbomb are better to clear the board / remove enemy's minion while waiting for death to come... (just being sarcastic here. sorry)
4th. dreadsteed is a flop... i highly doubt it will be in any deck at all... unless you are playing grim patron warrior (sorry for being sarcastic again)
5th. is this a demon deck? maybe. is this a zoo deck? i don't think so
First: I have since changed the deck to better reflect the constructive criticism I have recieved. 1. This giants had synergy with Dreadsteed + Baron combo which would allow for a board full of unkillable 1/1 demons. 2. Read number 1. because there was more to baron than just Voidcallers. 3. Demonwrath would not deal damage to most of you board, enabling you to effectively AoE the enemy without hurting your board state, and with Dreadsteeds you wouldn't need any single target removal because they can get the job done just as well without losing board state. 4. Dreadsteed has huge potential and it will be looked at as a poor card only until someone uses it effectively in a deck, then it will become the new "Patron" deck. (P.S. they cycle well with Mortal Coil, and have great synergy with Power Overwhelming and Void Terror. 5. This is a zoo deck that does not fit the current meta and will be unable to be proven or disproven until the cards are actually released, but as I stated above, I have since changes the deck to better fit the current meta.
Lol a board full of unkillable 1/1s? yeah you have fun with that xD
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If we didnt play decks because one class-specific card that rarely sees play counters it then nobody would ever play the game.
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You arent supposed to get 6. Just 4-5 so they can be used for board control when combo'd with Mal'Ganis.
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Oh, well, if you don't want YOUR board too flooded, maybe a Loatheb to prevent AoE before you kill off Rivendare.
Yes but if you look at every good card as "Its just gonna die, so why play it?" then why play anything? There are other ways for this deck to win, that is just the easiest way. And even if you only get 1 turn out of malganis, thats usually enough to clear the enemies board or do massive damage to the face. And turn 5 the enemy shouldnt have much in the way of minions to proc the deathrattle more than 2-3 times, which ideally how much you want it to proc. Turn 5 is a big tempo turn and most will want to play a big tempo card.
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You would Ideally play rivendare the turn after you play the dreadsteed. So if they only have 1 turn to control how much the deathrattle effects multiplies your steeds chances are they wont kill it more than twice resulting in 3 steeds. More often than not they would just focus removal on baron, but even then that is beneficial because then they have less for Mal'Ganis.
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as it stands the scenario i can see is a stable 7 damage from 1 baron rivender and 6 steeds. quite ok... if the enemy puts a taunt minion, then the damage is allocated to the hp of the taunting minion. if you want to improve the damage by the addition of malganis or other buffing minion, baron should by sacrificed... hmmm... looking quite good actually
edit: there might be a problem against enemies with huge minions like ramp druids, handlocks, and giants mages. and of course grim patron warriors...
I have said this many times, but you DO NOT want to have 6 steeds. just 4-5 to allow you to play other cards as well, such as Mal'Ganis and Void Terror. And with Mal'Ganis on the board it 3 damage per pony. That adds up quickly.
(btw not trying to be rude, I have just typed this like 5 times already xD)
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Thank you for justifying that you are not a person I should be wasting my time to talk to. Really look at what you just said. Troll
Enough people have gone into detail telling you why your deck is terrible.
End of discussion
And yet those people are giving "CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM" and have giving me the information I was requesting to make the deck better. Youre just a dink who thinks that their opinion is law and that because you don't like the deck that nobody should put any time into trying to help me make it better. But w.e these people have been more than helpful and you are not needed, so feel free to unsubscribe and have a good one buddy
There once was a man from Nantucket...
Lol a board full of unkillable 1/1s? yeah you have fun with that xD
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