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Just a quick clarification if i have 1 normal drake and 1 golden will i get both the golden dust and the normal or just the golden 

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Just a quick clarification if i have 1 normal drake and 1 golden will i get both the golden dust and the normal or just the golden 

Hi~ so when is the right to DE my ragnaros and sylvannas? right now? then wait for the new patch (year of the mammoth) after the patch they will return the full value dust to me? Kindly correct me if im wrong. 

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Doing nothing is 1600, crafting and disenchanting golden is still the same 1600, so dont bother, because you only get dust for golden if you have both

 I have yet to see anywhere that says we will only get normal DE value. 

Please read this piece of text, which can be found right below the cards rotating in the original announcement:
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20475356/a-year-of-mammoth-proportions-2-16-2017

We wanted to allow players to disenchant Classic cards that are being added to the Hall of Fame set for full dust refunds, but then felt that incentivizing players to dust their cool Wild cards was counter to our goal of making Wild awesome. So instead, we're just going to give you the dust, and you can keep the cards! Up to the maximum number of cards you could put in a deck, we will give you the full dust value of any cards you have that are being added to the Hall of Fame set. (Yes, that means if you have at least one Golden Ragnaros, you'll get 3200 dust!) The dust will be automatically awarded upon log-in once the Year of the Mammoth begins.

If you read the text I bolded there, it is very heavily implied that they are giving the full dust value for having the cards INSTEAD of offering full DE value. I don't see how to interpret it differently.

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Hi~ so when is the right to DE my ragnaros and sylvannas? right now? then wait for the new patch (year of the mammoth) after the patch they will return the full value dust to me? Kindly correct me if im wrong. 

yes you can DE them as usual for 1600/golden legendary  respectively 400 for a normal one.

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I've seen a lot of confusion about how to maximize your dust when the rotation comes around and some classic card move to Wild.

Here is a list from most to least dust you can gain in regards to a legendary. The options that are struck through are strictly worse than other options and should never be chosen.

Already have a regular and golden Rag, then dust both after rotation. 3200 + 1600 + 400 = +5200
Already have a golden Rag, then dust after rotation. 3200 + 1600 = +4800
Already have a golden Rag, then keep it. +3200
Have a golden Rag, craft a regular Rag, then dust golden Rag after rotation. -1600 + 3200 + 1600 = +3200 + gold Rag is now regular Rag
Already have a regular Rag, then dust after rotation. 1600 + 400 = +2000
Have a golden Rag, craft a regular Rag, then dust regular Rag after rotation. -1600 + 3200 + 400 = +2000
Already have a regular Rag, then keep it. +1600
Already have a regular Rag, craft a golden Rag, then dust after rotation. -3200 + 3200 + 1600 = +1600
Have neither golden or regular Rag, craft golden Rag, then dust after rotation. -3200 + 3200 + 1600 = +1600
Have neither golden or regular Rag, craft regular Rag, then dust after rotation. -1600 + 1600 + 400 = +400
Have neither golden or regular Rag, craft golden Rag, then keep it. -3200 + 3200 = 0 + golden Rag
Have neither golden or regular Rag, craft regular Rag, then keep it. -1600 + 1600 = 0 + regular Rag
Have neither golden or regular Rag, craft both, then dust golden Rag after rotation. -3200 - 1600 + 3200 + 1600 = 0 + regular Rag
Have neither golden or regular Rag, craft both, then dust regular Rag after rotation. -3200 - 1600 + 3200 + 400 = -1200 + golden Rag
Have neither golden or regular rag, craft both, then keep them. -3200 - 1600 + 3200 = -1600 + both Rags

I'm pretty sure this works for rare cards as well. Commons may be different since there's a +10 dust gain when dusting a golden common and then crafting a regular common.

Hope this helps! If you see a mistake, feel free to tell me and I'll make a correction. 

Yes you can DE them for the usual dust. 

source: 

ben brode answered on twitter: 

https://twitter.com/bdbrode/status/832370562286510080

Craft any of these cards if you dont have them.  For sure.

In terms of golden vs normal:

Basically you should craft golden versions if you want to keep the golden versions of that card at a crazy discount.

Otherwise just get your normal pay out and move on.

Great thread. Still don't understand how this is so hard for everyone. 

Yep, great thread and well explained by OP. I had done the math before finding this post and I arrived at the same conclusion.

Since I already have all the normal versions of the cards, I won't do anything because crafting all the golden commons (2400 dust cost total) feels too risky to me for only a 60 dust total gain in the end. 2400 dust is all I have at the moment, and it felt like a walk across (pirate) hell and back to obtain it. In my head, it goes like this:

- (Blizzard): Hey, give me all your money, I'll give it back to you with 60 more bucks in a month and a half.

- I say: "Screw you! I gave you 40$ so far this year and the only thing you gave back to me was Hogger, Doom of Elwynn!

Thanks for reminding me about the commons and 10 dust profit. I already upgraded my Rag to golden, and I'd like to also upgrade the Drakes, but I don't think I have enough dust for both those and the 6 commons... so instead of 80 dust, I now have to think whether the upgrade is worth 110 dust or not. And ofc there's the Sylvanas as well.

Edit: nvm, I'd lose more value by disenchanting cards to gain the dust than I'd gain from those commons.

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 So, I'm thinking of buying packs for the sole purpose of gathering dust to make golden versions. How much dust can I expect to garner from a given set, assuming I have all of the cards in normal form? Is there any set that's better for dusting purposes than another?

 There is approximately 100 dust per pack, on average (assuming that you disenchant everything in the packs).

Every set's packs have the same rarity distribution, so it doesn't matter which set's packs you buy.

If that's your plan, I'd recommend buying Classic packs, since then you have an (admittedly very small) chance of opening golden Ragnaros or Sylvanas and saving yourself a bunch of dust.

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Just one clarification, ok for legendaries and rares, pretty simple, but where is the 10 dust value of crafting golden commons and then disenchanting them?  (i already have regulars)

It should be the difference between the disenchanting value of a golden common (50) and the crafting of a common (40), right?

And, more importantly, its 100% sure that we can disenchant golden cards even after they enter in the hall of fame?

If yes, can i get a source? Thanks a lot =)

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Simple question, please.  I don't have Ragnaros.

If I craft Golden Ragnaros (spend 3200), I get 3200 refund when Mammoth arrives. But then can I also DE golden ragnaros for 1600, so I make 1600 profit?

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Does anyone have any prediction when Mammoth releases? 2 weeks? 2 months? half year?

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 So, I'm thinking of buying packs for the sole purpose of gathering dust to make golden versions. How much dust can I expect to garner from a given set, assuming I have all of the cards in normal form? Is there any set that's better for dusting purposes than another?

 There is approximately 100 dust per pack, on average (assuming that you disenchant everything in the packs).

Every set's packs have the same rarity distribution, so it doesn't matter which set's packs you buy.

If that's your plan, I'd recommend buying Classic packs, since then you have an (admittedly very small) chance of opening golden Ragnaros or Sylvanas and saving yourself a bunch of dust.

 Disenchanting a pack gives you 40 dust on average.

4 commons  +5+5+5+5

1 rare  +20

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Hi~ so when is the right to DE my ragnaros and sylvannas? right now? then wait for the new patch (year of the mammoth) after the patch they will return the full value dust to me? Kindly correct me if im wrong. 

 Don't DE them! You get the dust only if you own the cards when the next expansion goes live, and you get to keep the cards!

If you're sure you'll never play wild you could DE them after you get the dust from blizz (expansion is expected to go live end of april). But this would be using regular DE costs, not full dust value.

Edit: @Alkoviak thanks :D just trying to help people be efficient with their dust. It can be tricky sometimes.

This is for those who have:
1. Normal Sylvanas
2. Spare 3200 dust
3. Enjoys the Wild
4. Want a Golden Sylvanas (Cos she is more sexy in Golden outfit) but not sure to do it now or after rotation
Heres the scenarios for your consideration;

Scenario 1
Dust I have now 3200
After Rotation: Normal Sylvanas dust refund from Blizz 1600
After Rotation: Craft golden Sylvanas -3200
After Rotation: Dust Normal Sylvanas 400
Dust Balance 2000

Scenario 2
Dust I have now 3200
Dust Normal Sylvana now 400
Craft Golden Sylvanas now -3200
After Rotation, Golden Sylvanas dust Refund from Blizz 3200
Dust Blance 3600

If I am not mistaken, you will only get standard/ golden Sylvanas through crafting after rotation as she will not be available through classic packs thereafter. Same applies to Rag too.

Let me know if my above calculation has error.