BZ said they will nerf some classical cards, so people will use more "new cards" in the next patch.
We heard something about Leper Gnome, Druid cards, and Knife Juggler.
But how about something like Azure Drake??? It's a 5/4/4 dragon with 1 spell dmg and draw one card.
To be honest, Azure Drake is pretty useful for those careers lacks of spell dmg or drawing cards. so what if BZ nerf it in the next patch!? Personally, it sounds horrible for me, Azure Drake is one of impressive symbols and soul cards in Hearthstone, if they change such a good card for anything, I think I won't play this game anymore.
How about your thought?!
And list some "other cards", you think they shouldn't never do any change or nerf it??!!!!
I won't stop playing this game if they nerf Azure Drake, and about other cards- I think they shouldn't never do any change to no cards- adding new ones, making the card pool larger is enough to make some riddiculously strong cards like dr7 and BGH, less important and not omnipresent. I'm talking about the current state of things, if at one point they release a card enabling a broken combo by mistake, they should fix it.
I won't stop playing this game if they nerf Azure Drake, and about other cards- I think they shouldn't never do any change to no cards- adding new ones, making the card pool larger is enough to make some riddiculously strong cards like dr7 and BGH, less important and not omnipresent. I'm talking about the current state of things, if at one point they release a card enabling a broken combo by mistake, they should fix it.
But if that's some cards represent the soul of this game, how could you still play it when it get nerfed? I means, there are tons of game on the market, you choose one of them, because something touch your inside, right?
Of course, if there is a combo by Azure Drake is totally broken in this game, they should nerf it. but it's not, they want to nerf it because they hope new players notice the new cards but not old good cards. how could it be reasonable?
Heh u just pull random card out of the set and ask if it will be nerfed :D No, i dont think it will be nerfed and btw the poll options r kinda stupid ...
But if that's some cards represent the soul of this game, how could you still play it when it get nerfed? I means, there are tons of game on the market, you choose one of them, because something touch your inside, right?
Of course, if there is a combo by Azure Drake is totally broken in this game, they should nerf it. but it's not, they want to nerf it because they hope new players notice the new cards but not old good cards. how could it be reasonable?
That's my personal thought:D
For me the soul of this game would be- fast paced and not overly complicated card matches with lots of other people over the internet, both on PC and mobile, available for free. If the soul remains untouched, I dont need to look through tons of game on the market, because its this one that touch me inside.
Why the hell should they nerf Azure Drake? By this logic Blizzard needs to nerf every single playable card, only because there are Hemets and Acidmaws out there.
Somehow it seems that a lot of people expect Blizzard to rebalance the whole set with the next patch. Don't be disappointed when they end up nerfing 3-5 cards at most, because that's what will happen due to their nerfing attitude.
Why the hell should they nerf Azure Drake? By this logic Blizzard needs to nerf every single playable card, only because there are Hemets and Acidmaws out there.
Somehow it seems that a lot of people expect Blizzard to rebalance the whole set with the next patch. Don't be disappointed when they end up nerfing 3-5 cards at most, because that's what will happen due to their nerfing attitude.
They are gonna nerf around a dozen cards, they already said it's their biggest balance patch in history. I say azure drake is fine, a 4/4 for 5 mana is a huge tempo loss even if it cycles. I don't run it in any of my decks.
Why the hell should they nerf Azure Drake? By this logic Blizzard needs to nerf every single playable card, only because there are Hemets and Acidmaws out there.
Somehow it seems that a lot of people expect Blizzard to rebalance the whole set with the next patch. Don't be disappointed when they end up nerfing 3-5 cards at most, because that's what will happen due to their nerfing attitude.
They are gonna nerf around a dozen cards, they already said it's their biggest balance patch in history. I say azure drake is fine, a 4/4 for 5 mana is a huge tempo loss even if it cycles. I don't run it in any of my decks.
Yeah, that would be players' nightmare when their favorite classical cards get unexpected nerf because some ridiculous balance reasons from Bz..
Has good effect but can be potentially 2-for-1 traded with Yeti, darkscale healer, and other universally available cards. That could potentially negate the cantrip from playing him, IMHO. Azure drake seems pretty balanced to me.
In fact, this brings up one of the concerns I had with the announcements of standard. If much of the expert set is diluted by post extreme-prejudice nerfed cards it will be a very unattractive set to new players as opposed to the expansions. Nerfs to balanced but popular expert cards seems counterproductive, seeing as it is supposed to be new player's entry point to the game.
Then we add a single card draw battlecry, for the last 1 mana
Now, you could argue that Gnomish Inventor and Novice Engineer pay 3 stat points / 1.5 mana for their draw one card battlecry, and therefore Azure Drake is a 5.5 mana minion for 5 mana. That's hardly enough of an imbalance to justify a nerf.
Then we add a single card draw battlecry, for the last 1 mana
Now, you could argue that Gnomish Inventor and Novice Engineer pay 3 stat points / 1.5 mana for their draw one card battlecry, and therefore Azure Drake is a 5.5 mana minion for 5 mana. That's hardly enough of an imbalance to justify a nerf.
card draw is costed 1.5 mana you can see this in Arcane Intellect. So His value is only 0.5 above the standard value.
Seriously we don't know what they will nerf.. and I don't think they will nerf azure drake you can't really nerf it without totally destroying it..
Also please no opinions in polls next time just a yes/no is enough.
@kaiyoxys: that's a buff.. bloodmage thalnos is a named character there's lore and stuff you cna't jsut make him an epic.. I know he doesn't have much "legendary" feel to it.. more just value but ti's good he is a 1 of.. imagine if rogue had 2 of those.. or freeze mage..
Ben Brode came out and said that the upcomming nerfs would be to 2 - 20 cards. Personally i wouldnt mind it if it was 30 cards and azure drake was included in them. I believe that the lower the power level of the cards in basic/classic the better it is for the future of hearthstone.
Azure drake is fine but they should nerf Bloodmage THalnos to not be Legendary anymore. It's same power as azure drake.
Pretty sure thalnos not being legendary is a good thing. they might just make a card like thalnos instead of nerfing him. Or they make a card like thalnos and they remake the original thalnos
Ben Brode came out and said that the upcomming nerfs would be to 2 - 20 cards. Personally i wouldnt mind it if it was 30 cards and azure drake was included in them. I believe that the lower the power level of the cards in basic/classic the better it is for the future of hearthstone.
Don't forget they already banned 2 of the whole series of cards includes some excellent cards as Dr. boom or the tons of machine minions. I won't be surprised if they do any crazy nerf on a bunch of basic and classical cards...
In BZ's logic, if any old cards will obstacle the development(or "sell") of the new cards, they will nerf even destroy it... (see as Warsong commander)
Ben Brode came out and said that the upcomming nerfs would be to 2 - 20 cards. Personally i wouldnt mind it if it was 30 cards and azure drake was included in them. I believe that the lower the power level of the cards in basic/classic the better it is for the future of hearthstone.
Don't forget they already banned 2 of the whole series of cards includes some excellent cards as Dr. boom or the tons of machine minions. I won't be surprised if they do any crazy nerf on a bunch of basic and classical cards...
In BZ's logic, if any old cards will obstacle the development(or "sell") of the new cards, they will nerf even destroy it... (see as Warsong commander)
People where begging for a Patron warrior nerf and that was blizzards answer to it.
I think it's interesting that we discuss the future of hearthstone altough this is absolutely pointless without knowing what will cames out with the new expansion.
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BZ said they will nerf some classical cards, so people will use more "new cards" in the next patch.
We heard something about Leper Gnome, Druid cards, and Knife Juggler.
But how about something like Azure Drake??? It's a 5/4/4 dragon with 1 spell dmg and draw one card.
To be honest, Azure Drake is pretty useful for those careers lacks of spell dmg or drawing cards. so what if BZ nerf it in the next patch!? Personally, it sounds horrible for me, Azure Drake is one of impressive symbols and soul cards in Hearthstone, if they change such a good card for anything, I think I won't play this game anymore.
How about your thought?!
And list some "other cards", you think they shouldn't never do any change or nerf it??!!!!
I won't stop playing this game if they nerf Azure Drake, and about other cards- I think they shouldn't never do any change to no cards- adding new ones, making the card pool larger is enough to make some riddiculously strong cards like dr7 and BGH, less important and not omnipresent. I'm talking about the current state of things, if at one point they release a card enabling a broken combo by mistake, they should fix it.
Heh u just pull random card out of the set and ask if it will be nerfed :D No, i dont think it will be nerfed and btw the poll options r kinda stupid ...
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Why the hell should they nerf Azure Drake? By this logic Blizzard needs to nerf every single playable card, only because there are Hemets and Acidmaws out there.
Somehow it seems that a lot of people expect Blizzard to rebalance the whole set with the next patch. Don't be disappointed when they end up nerfing 3-5 cards at most, because that's what will happen due to their nerfing attitude.
Imo 5 slot has most competition arguably there is no big problem on that slot.
Vote 'No' on prop nerf Azure Drake!
Has good effect but can be potentially 2-for-1 traded with Yeti, darkscale healer, and other universally available cards. That could potentially negate the cantrip from playing him, IMHO. Azure drake seems pretty balanced to me.
In fact, this brings up one of the concerns I had with the announcements of standard. If much of the expert set is diluted by post extreme-prejudice nerfed cards it will be a very unattractive set to new players as opposed to the expansions. Nerfs to balanced but popular expert cards seems counterproductive, seeing as it is supposed to be new player's entry point to the game.
Azure drake is fine but they should nerf Bloodmage THalnos to not be Legendary anymore. It's same power as azure drake.
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Azure Drake? Don't be silly. It is balanced according to the normal standards:
Now, you could argue that Gnomish Inventor and Novice Engineer pay 3 stat points / 1.5 mana for their draw one card battlecry, and therefore Azure Drake is a 5.5 mana minion for 5 mana. That's hardly enough of an imbalance to justify a nerf.
Ben Brode came out and said that the upcomming nerfs would be to 2 - 20 cards. Personally i wouldnt mind it if it was 30 cards and azure drake was included in them. I believe that the lower the power level of the cards in basic/classic the better it is for the future of hearthstone.
That said, if they nerf only ~10 cards then i surely dont think that azure drake should be among them. I mean there are better targets: Knife Juggler, Lepper Gnome, Ancient of Lore, Ironbeak Owl, Mountain Giant, Divine Favour, Master of Disguise, Doomhammer, Savage Roar, Big Game Hunter, Alexstrasza, Tirion Fordring.
You know Druids receive no love when there are Recycle and Entomb.