Edwin VanCleef
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Combo: Gain +2/+2 for each other card you've played this turn.
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He led the Stonemasons in the reconstruction of Stormwind, and when the nobles refused to pay, he founded the Defias Brotherhood to, well, deconstruct Stormwind.
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I have a last important question, about what I should do: I love to play Miracle Rogue and N'Zoth Rogue a lot, the problem is, that I don't have Edwin Van Cleef and Thalnos, and I really enjoy playing rogue all in all as I said. But it seems, that since the update with the WotOG cards, edwin has been passively improved with the lack of Silence or BGH. So I see he got a higher importance in any Rogue Deck. Coming to my question. I don't have enough dust to craft him, I would need to dissentchant 2 Legendaries, and I don't know which. The first one I thought about is Tirion, because I never played Paladin a lot and now he anyway the class is some kind of second older Version of Shaman (an Underdog), which makes me dissentchan Tirion. The second Legendary I thought about is Thaurissan, because since the release of WotOG almost no any deck uses him anymore and I myself too rarely use him since the update. So I am not sure if it's the right choice to do what I want, that's why I ask you all. What do you guys say? The thing is I decided to craft Xaril before Edwin, this is why is ask again for support.
You really shouldn't disenchant either. Tirion is amazing, and is included in almost every viable paladin deck. You will regret DEing him. He's a classic and won't rotate out, as well. Thaurissan is used in many variations of Freeze mage, Renolock, and C'thun decks. I would never disenchant him, regardless of the fact that I'm not using him to climb atm. A good sub for VanCleef would Probably be Questing Adventurer. It has the same cost, stats, and spell-buff mechanic. Save up dust for VanCleef. Don't DE Tirion.
Is Edwin worth crafting, if I need to dissenchant Twin Emperor Velkron or Nefarian for him?
OK. Thanks for the advice. And I know the importance of Twin, but I rarely play C'thun so I disn't see him useful at that point.
Burn my whole hand for 14/14
Enemy Polymorphs my edwin
*concede*
Hi, I got golden Edwin Vancleef should I disenchant him?
No
I dare you, I double dare you
Works great with Shadowcaster.
Why he has not the pirate tag? The holy roger is in his portrait. Hell shall be and awesome pirate.
I agree 100% with you. He should be a Pirate. Maybe with that and like 2 more pirate cards , or weapons a Pirate Rogue deck would be viable.
He is not a pirate. He is the leader of the Defias Brotherhood. A group of skilled assassins and thieves hostile to the Alliance. They are mostly skilled engeeniers and atisans. They are not pirates.
He figths under the Holy Roger ( in his ilustration) for that i asked if he should have the pirate tag. i knew he was the leader ofthe Brotherhood but that is not incompatible with be a pirate, In fact can be a cause :)
Worth crafting this guy in gold if you don't have him yet? I've been needing him since the game launched and the gold animation is just too cool.
He's definitely worth crafting. He fits perfectly well in every rogue deck. And I agree, he has the best golden animation in the game. I have a normal version of him, but I'm still deciding on whether I craft the golden one or not.
Golden Alexstrasza has a much better golden animation. N'Zoth and Fen Creeper do too. Cleef's is great, but I can't see it in the #1 spot.
About zero. VanCleef is a card blizzard likes quite a bit.
The only cards blizzard has made mention of for nerfs is big game hunter, knife juggler, then they made mention that some core Druid cards would change. No real mention of silences, the most they said there is they don't feel as though they are interactive and fun.
Should I craft him for a Malygos Rogue deck?
i like golden animation
Is he worth crafting as an Oil Rogue player?