Kobolds and Catacombs Guide
Battlecry: Draw a card. If it's a minion, transform it into a Chicken.
He's legitimately surprised every time he turns himself into a chicken.
So what happens if this hits a Hero Card like Bloodreaver Gul'dan?
Well... It's not a minion, so it draws it.
The worst card statistically from GvG. Either was mediocre or downright game-losing. Sometimes I see this card in arena and I'm just amazed that 1 of 2 things happened.
1. The opponent REALLY misjudged how bad the card can be.
2. This card was legitimately better than the other 2 options.
"oh no, not my Reno Jackson,what am i gonna do?" - mr. nobody
Could easily be a (2) drop and still it wouldn't see much constructed play. Only in specific decks such as freeze mage (Where it would actually be quite useful, meanwhile not actually broken).
Just look at Novice Engineer (never played):
(2) drop; 1 Mana stats - 1 health = Draw
Or Loot Hoarder:(2) drop; 1 Mana stats - Deathrattle = Draw
Now we have Gnomish Experimenter:(3) drop; 2 Mana stats - Polymorph any minions drawn = Draw
I'd argue that the Polymorph effect is as bad or worse than the deathrattle, and its cost makes no sense.
This card is insanely underpowered compared to the severe Power Creep that took place in GvG and it saddens me that such a good concept went to waste.It would also be an incentive against aggro, which is exactly what Hearthstone needs.
This card is bad because its traits are pulled in opposite directions.
Aggressive decks have too many minions to consistently not get chickens. Spell-based decks (Freeze Mage?) have no need for a 3/2 body.
After GvG came out I got three of those from 22 packs and decided to give it a try with a mage.
I made all-spells deck with both of these and 2 mana wyrms. So, guess what - both games that I played with that deck, gnomish experimenters turned the other experimenter in a chicken.
Strangely enough - i won first game and almost won a second one anyway.
Same as Fel Reaver, the card destroyed by this guy does not matter unless you eventually draw your entire deck. And as 90% of all games don't end in fatigue, this card might as well have no drawback. What is the difference between a card you never draw in a game and a destroyed card? almost none (if you joust you could win with a card in deck and that's it). The amount of misunderstanding this card gets is troubling.
Hahaha oh man, I feel bad for you if you really think this. Fel Reaver's downside often does not matter unless you draw your deck, sure. But that's "often" and not "always".
Secondly, and FAR more importantly, this card is nothing like Fel Reaver. This card's downsize DOES matter, and drawing your whole deck has absolutely no bearing on whether this is a bad card. Fel Reaver is an awesome card. This is a terrible card.
I agree with your reasoning but I still don't think that makes Gnomish Experimenter a good card. Basically, you're saying that if you draw a creature that gets chickened you should just count it as a card you haven't drawn, which I agree with. But my issue is that even if that isn't a drawback, this card is basically a 3/2 for 3 that gives you a 1/1 in your hand. That's still pretty terrible value considering for the same mana cost Razorfen gives you the 1/1 body on the board (although having a 1-mana card in hand is obviously beneficial for classes like Rogue). Something like Harvest Golem is obviously miles ahead.
I don't really value the potential card draw enough to play something that's so evidently poor-value on turn 3, especially considering that in most decks which would care about have a 3/2 body on the board you will have a lot of creatures, therefore almost always getting the chicken.
In Arena it's fine though. Still not a great card, but I would pick it over a lot of the other more 'average' cards in Arena because even just having an extra 1/1 in your hand is never a bad thing in Arena.
I've heard this logic used before and it makes no sense.
Consider that the probability of drawing any card (say, Tirion) after the mulligan is 1/27, which is about 3.7%. That makes the probability of drawing him 18.5% by turn 5 and 37% by turn 10, without extra card draw. I don't think we'll disagree that a sizable portion of games reach turn 10, right? Well what you're saying is that losing this 37% (and increasing) chance of drawing a game changing card "doesn't matter" because you can just pretend that it was at the bottom of your deck. Even with just a few extra card draws you could have close to 50% chance of drawing Tirion by turn 10, and this changes to 0 when he gets transformed into a chicken.
It's like taking all the aces and face cards out of a deck and playing blackjack, and just pretending that your luck was bad and you just didn't happen to draw any during a game. That's a more extreme example but you get the point.
Overrated card, when it draw a golden card the idea should be that the chicken turns golden as well..
I agree. It works that was for spare parts.
Yes, that is true, however i do think that they've fixed it in a recently patch whereas they will draw golden cards from now on. This was not that case back when i wrote this comment. Unfortunately i cannot tell you which patch it was if you'd like to seek out the source, due to me not knowing that.
Yeah I actually saw it happen on YouTube a few hours after posting this. The lil hommie is GEWLD fer sher.
This card should transform the minions into Angry Chickens, not just regular chickens.
Yes. i came to this page to find out if that was the case. I agree that would be more fun.
Dumb question, but I didn't face enough Gnomish Experimenters out there... (go figure):
Do the other player see which card is drawn? so, which minion is lost, or which spell/weapon is kept?
I'm sure you can see which card is drawn. First, both players see drawn cards that are destroyed if one player's hand is full (similar situation). Two, the gamepedia states that if Inventer transforms Flame Leviathan into a Chicken, the Leviathan's draw effect still triggers, thus it must be visible to the player before that.
Thank you! :D