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The Coin - An Inside Look

Ben Brode wrote up a very informative post on the Bnet forums earlier regarding The Coin. His post provides important insight into the existence of the coin and it's backed up with data collected through beta testing.

Originally posted by Ben Brode (Official Forums)

Throughout the development of Hearthstone, going first had been a tremendous advantage. Winning the coin flip during our alpha testing meant you were 20% more likely to win the game. Losing the flip 3 games in a row was a table-flipping experience.

Being Player 1 has two advantages:

  • (1) You get to spend 3 mana before you opponent does. (And 4 mana. And 5 mana. Etc.) This means that you can respond to your opponent’s 2-mana play with a 3-mana card, but your opponent only had 2-mana to respond to your 2-mana play. It also means that you are usually the one choosing who you want to attack, which ends up being a huge advantage.
  • (2) You get more total mana than your opponent. Imagine a game that ends on turn 7. If you went first, that means you had access to 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 total mana (that’s 28!), but your opponent has only had access to 21 mana up that point, since they haven’t had a 7-mana turn yet. If player 2 wins, both players have had access to the same amount of mana throughout the game.

We had already given Player 2 an extra card to help resolve the problem, but a 20% advantage for going first still felt too high. Our goal was a 5-10% first-turn-advantage, which is what it is in Chess.

We tried a number of ways to juice the Player 2 experience, starting with granting +5 Health for going second. This actually helped get us close to our target, but we noticed that going second still felt like losing, since you always have less mana to spend.

After a few more tests, we tried “The Coin”! The biggest benefit was that it allowed the second player to respond to a 2-mana play with a 3-mana card (this is how player 1 feels basically every turn of the game), thereby giving Player 2 the opportunity to turn the momentum of the game around.

Here’s what we’re seeing so far since we added The Coin:
Across all leagues – 4.4% better to go first, on average
(i.e. 52.2% of the time, Player 1 wins)
Master League Only – 0.7% better to go first, on average
(i.e. 50.4% of the time, Player 1 wins)

Now some classes are actually slightly better going second, in Master League only(Priest and Rogue win 51.5% of the time when going 2nd in this league), but this is much better than where we used to be, where winning the coin flip had such a strong correlation with winning the game.

We’ve heard a lot of feedback that The Coin doesn’t feel like it should activate Rogue combos, or trigger Questing Adventurer, but given that we are still in a world where going first is better in almost every case, we don’t mind this slight advantage for Player 2. (And it’s much simpler to understand for new players than other solutions we’ve considered.) Some specific interactions might be a little too strong (This is our town, Scrub!), and these are cases where we could see balance changes in the future. We’re keeping our eyes on it!

One thing I’m pretty excited about - We’ve added a cool animation for gaining The Coin at the start of the game in our next patch – it looks pretty rad and should help teach new players about how and why they are getting the card.

Oh! One more thing – thank you all so much for providing feedback on everything you’ve seen so far in the Beta. There are a lot of changes in the works (some of them are hitting in our next patch) that are a direct result of this feedback, so seriously: it’s been awesome. Keep it up!


Blue Tweets

Originally posted by Blizzard Entertainment

Beta

Why we don't hear on Twitter about Open-Beta is startin until end of september? That's a shame. We are all waiting for it so Bad

We have not announced a date for open beta yet. - Zeriyah (Source)

Note: Original tweet is missing. Important information though!

We're going to guarantee a little more gold at 6 wins in the next patch. - Ben Brode (Source)

Bugs

Any idea what's wrong with my friends list ? I just cant seem to find a fix for it. [image]

I checked, and this is something we resolved for the next patch. :) Thanks for reporting it in! - Yong Woo (Source)

Feature Requests

Has there been any discussion or mention of Borderless Windowed mode for Hearthstone?

It's been brought up with the team, but I don't have any info on it at the moment. - Zeriyah (Source)

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