Came here to post this same thing, it's actually crazy. Going from Gold 10 to Diamond 4 last couple days I played maybe 2 human players. What astonishes me the most is how these bots are getting to Diamond 4, but then I realized it's bc there are SO MANY other bots for them to beat with f2p generated decks. This is NA for those asking btw.
Came here to post this same thing, it's actually crazy. Going from Gold 10 to Diamond 4 last couple days I played maybe 2 human players. What astonishes me the most is how these bots are getting to Diamond 4, but then I realized it's bc there are SO MANY other bots for them to beat with f2p generated decks. This is NA for those asking btw.
I would surmise that if they truly are Blizzard bots (which, I believe someone posted something in another forum that says these ones AREN'T BBs), then it would be simple enough for Blizzard to program them to sit at a specific ladder rung and never lose stars/rank - stick 10 of these in each ladder rung and players can continually play without having long wait times...
They’re definitely not Blizzard bots, for the most part. They are the Chinese arena bots with mostly consonant only names for whatever reason.
I'm tracking my ladder climb this month (mostly for the deck writeup, but also for this situation).
I'm 24 games in, and 6 of them I am sufficiently convinced were bots (by both naming convention (color/noun), manner of deck construction, and/or play style). Another 1 or 2 MAY have been bots, simply based on their fairly odd deck design (or lack thereof), but their play seemed to have the sorts of erratic motion/logic and variance that normally would indicate a human operator.
So far this climb I've yet to encounter any of the kanji-named decks I saw last month.
They’re definitely not Blizzard bots, for the most part. They are the Chinese arena bots with mostly consonant only names for whatever reason.
I'm tracking my ladder climb this month (mostly for the deck writeup, but also for this situation).
I'm 24 games in, and 6 of them I am sufficiently convinced were bots (by both naming convention (color/noun), manner of deck construction, and/or play style). Another 1 or 2 MAY have been bots, simply based on their fairly odd deck design (or lack thereof), but their play seemed to have the sorts of erratic motion/logic and variance that normally would indicate a human operator.
So far this climb I've yet to encounter any of the kanji-named decks I saw last month.
... and the gods of karma and hubris have heard my cry, and punished me (sort of) thusly.
My very first ladder opponent today was a kanji-named deck full of all the greatest hits of 2014... LMAO
Easy win, but... hilarious that I said this after stopping for the night last night and then... BOOM.
Has anyone else felt like Diamond has been too easy? I've been running into the easiest of Diamond opponents using the simplest of decks such as core only cards. I don't know how bots fully work outside of Blizzard bots but are there bots that take time on their turns instead of instant plays? Either way this has been the easiest Diamond I've been in. I am confused.
Has anyone else felt like Diamond has been too easy? I've been running into the easiest of Diamond opponents using the simplest of decks such as core only cards. I don't know how bots fully work outside of Blizzard bots but are there bots that take time on their turns instead of instant plays? Either way this has been the easiest Diamond I've been in. I am confused.
Yes, bots can be programmed with stalls... they can be programmed to "mouse over" cards to make it look like they're deciding... they can be programmed to mouse over you and your cards. A lot of the bots are programmed to take as much time as they can per turn because they're grinding XP (roping) for whoever is running them to sell.
The easiest tells on bots are deck design (as you noticed, only using basic neutral cards) and style of play - these bots generally play a "face only" style, unless forced to attack minions by Taunt.
The bot I just played dropped 3 of it's craptacular Rush minions on the board where I had 3 legitimate targets... then just ended turn, rather than clearing the board.
They’re definitely not Blizzard bots, for the most part. They are the Chinese arena bots with mostly consonant only names for whatever reason.
I'm tracking my ladder climb this month (mostly for the deck writeup, but also for this situation).
I'm 24 games in, and 6 of them I am sufficiently convinced were bots (by both naming convention (color/noun), manner of deck construction, and/or play style). Another 1 or 2 MAY have been bots, simply based on their fairly odd deck design (or lack thereof), but their play seemed to have the sorts of erratic motion/logic and variance that normally would indicate a human operator.
So far this climb I've yet to encounter any of the kanji-named decks I saw last month.
Please stop referring to random amalgamations of cards as meaning a bot is involved.
I (and thus humanity) take full responsibility for the Reno, Renathal, Blackrock, Taunt, Excavate warrior, and any self respecting bot would probably not torture themselves trying to play it.
I do, but it’s completely futile bc they just remake accounts to grind gold for throwaway arena drafts. Blizzard needs to reassess how new accounts are created but it would probably hurt their new player numbers thus shareholder profit so it’s a tricky situation
Please stop referring to random amalgamations of cards as meaning a bot is involved.
I (and thus humanity) take full responsibility for the Reno, Renathal, Blackrock, Taunt, Excavate warrior, and any self respecting bot would probably not torture themselves trying to play it.
I don't know if you're trying to be funny here... or simply can't read... but I made it pretty clear which decks were bots/suspected bots, and it was none of those (nor have I actually run into any of those yet - the closest being an Odyn Warrior deck).
Please stop referring to random amalgamations of cards as meaning a bot is involved.
I (and thus humanity) take full responsibility for the Reno, Renathal, Blackrock, Taunt, Excavate warrior, and any self respecting bot would probably not torture themselves trying to play it.
I don't know if you're trying to be funny here... or simply can't read... but I made it pretty clear which decks were bots/suspected bots, and it was none of those (nor have I actually run into any of those yet - the closest being an Odyn Warrior deck).
It was attempted humor. Guess it didn't land. My desire to try new things leads me to play really weird decks before rotation.
Please stop referring to random amalgamations of cards as meaning a bot is involved.
I (and thus humanity) take full responsibility for the Reno, Renathal, Blackrock, Taunt, Excavate warrior, and any self respecting bot would probably not torture themselves trying to play it.
I don't know if you're trying to be funny here... or simply can't read... but I made it pretty clear which decks were bots/suspected bots, and it was none of those (nor have I actually run into any of those yet - the closest being an Odyn Warrior deck).
It was attempted humor. Guess it didn't land. My desire to try new things leads me to play really weird decks before rotation.
I get it, I play a lot of decks for fun, too... but I play them in the Casual room (not that it matters, really... since 95%+ of what you face in there are people running net/ladder decks who are just too chicken shit to run them where it actually counts).
But yeah... those aren't what I'd ever normally call bot decks on composition alone...
So this is purely a hypothesis, but I'm seeing some commonalities in who is and isn't facing bots in this thread.
I've done the full Legend climb for the last four months and I have only clocked maybe one or two bots this whole time. Lately I've been playing most days, at least enough to complete the daily quests, mostly because we've had a lot of events with event quests back to back and you only have one slot for those dailies. Sometimes I let my quests accumulate for three days. I've also been grinding out 500 wins on DK so I've been making an effort to get 5 wins a day when I do play.
Hitting Legend each season means I start each season with a 10x star bonus, which quickly turns into a 20x/18x/16x star bonus due to win streaks as I progress. That allows me to leapfrog to Diamond within a relatively short span. In other words, I usually only spend a few days in the Gold-Platinum range. Diamond 5, where the win streak bonuses stop, is where things get difficult. I definitely don't think I saw any bots in that range. I spent the last five days or so seesawing back and forth between Diamond 3 and Diamond 1 before finally getting the win streak I needed to breach Legend, and most of those games were hard fought.
All this to say, I think what's happening is:
The consistent Diamond/Legend players are able to fairly easily climb beyond the metal ranks due to bonus stars and hidden MMR and so mainly wind up facing each other.
Bots wind up getting hard stuck in the metal ranks--Gold 5, Plat 10, etc.--and so players who don't climb as consistently, have fewer bonus stars, lower MMR, or who also get hard stuck in metal ranks also wind up accumulating in the same areas where the bots accumulate, and so wind up facing them more frequently.
So this is purely a hypothesis, but I'm seeing some commonalities in who is and isn't facing bots in this thread.
I've done the full Legend climb for the last four months and I have only clocked maybe one or two bots this whole time. Lately I've been playing most days, at least enough to complete the daily quests, mostly because we've had a lot of events with event quests back to back and you only have one slot for those dailies. Sometimes I let my quests accumulate for three days. I've also been grinding out 500 wins on DK so I've been making an effort to get 5 wins a day when I do play.
Hitting Legend each season means I start each season with a 10x star bonus, which quickly turns into a 20x/18x/16x star bonus due to win streaks as I progress. That allows me to leapfrog to Diamond within a relatively short span. In other words, I usually only spend a few days in the Gold-Platinum range. Diamond 5, where the win streak bonuses stop, is where things get difficult. I definitely don't think I saw any bots in that range. I spent the last five days or so seesawing back and forth between Diamond 3 and Diamond 1 before finally getting the win streak I needed to breach Legend, and most of those games were hard fought.
All this to say, I think what's happening is:
The consistent Diamond/Legend players are able to fairly easily climb beyond the metal ranks due to bonus stars and hidden MMR and so mainly wind up facing each other.
Bots wind up getting hard stuck in the metal ranks--Gold 5, Plat 10, etc.--and so players who don't climb as consistently, have fewer bonus stars, lower MMR, or who also get hard stuck in metal ranks also wind up accumulating in the same areas where the bots accumulate, and so wind up facing them more frequently.
I Diamond (at least) every month as well, and as you can see from my current deck write-up/ladder tracker - in 60 games, I've faced 20 (definitive) bots - yes, statistically speaking if you're jumping many tiers at a time with bonus stars and win streaks, then you're less likely to face bots... because you're less likely to face ANYTHING - you're simply playing fewer games than others are.
That doesn't mean the bots aren't there.
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Came here to post this same thing, it's actually crazy. Going from Gold 10 to Diamond 4 last couple days I played maybe 2 human players. What astonishes me the most is how these bots are getting to Diamond 4, but then I realized it's bc there are SO MANY other bots for them to beat with f2p generated decks. This is NA for those asking btw.
Blizzard bots will never end, they are just zombies masking the drop in players.
I would surmise that if they truly are Blizzard bots (which, I believe someone posted something in another forum that says these ones AREN'T BBs), then it would be simple enough for Blizzard to program them to sit at a specific ladder rung and never lose stars/rank - stick 10 of these in each ladder rung and players can continually play without having long wait times...
They’re definitely not Blizzard bots, for the most part. They are the Chinese arena bots with mostly consonant only names for whatever reason.
I'm tracking my ladder climb this month (mostly for the deck writeup, but also for this situation).
I'm 24 games in, and 6 of them I am sufficiently convinced were bots (by both naming convention (color/noun), manner of deck construction, and/or play style). Another 1 or 2 MAY have been bots, simply based on their fairly odd deck design (or lack thereof), but their play seemed to have the sorts of erratic motion/logic and variance that normally would indicate a human operator.
So far this climb I've yet to encounter any of the kanji-named decks I saw last month.
... and the gods of karma and hubris have heard my cry, and punished me (sort of) thusly.
My very first ladder opponent today was a kanji-named deck full of all the greatest hits of 2014... LMAO
Easy win, but... hilarious that I said this after stopping for the night last night and then... BOOM.
Has anyone else felt like Diamond has been too easy? I've been running into the easiest of Diamond opponents using the simplest of decks such as core only cards. I don't know how bots fully work outside of Blizzard bots but are there bots that take time on their turns instead of instant plays? Either way this has been the easiest Diamond I've been in. I am confused.
Yes, bots can be programmed with stalls... they can be programmed to "mouse over" cards to make it look like they're deciding... they can be programmed to mouse over you and your cards. A lot of the bots are programmed to take as much time as they can per turn because they're grinding XP (roping) for whoever is running them to sell.
The easiest tells on bots are deck design (as you noticed, only using basic neutral cards) and style of play - these bots generally play a "face only" style, unless forced to attack minions by Taunt.
The bot I just played dropped 3 of it's craptacular Rush minions on the board where I had 3 legitimate targets... then just ended turn, rather than clearing the board.
Most of the bot decks are painfully obvious.
Just report them as bots with the in game reporting system and move on. Blizzard will get them on the next ban wave.
Names and Mouse movements can be coincidental, there's only one true bot test:
Are they running Grim Necromancer?
Yes? Its a bot
Another bot ban wave has gone out:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/news/10758-unauthorized-bot-ban-update-march-2024
If you see a bad post on the forum use the report function under it, so I or someone else of the moderation team can take care of it!
Please stop referring to random amalgamations of cards as meaning a bot is involved.
I (and thus humanity) take full responsibility for the Reno, Renathal, Blackrock, Taunt, Excavate warrior, and any self respecting bot would probably not torture themselves trying to play it.
I do, but it’s completely futile bc they just remake accounts to grind gold for throwaway arena drafts. Blizzard needs to reassess how new accounts are created but it would probably hurt their new player numbers thus shareholder profit so it’s a tricky situation
I don't know if you're trying to be funny here... or simply can't read... but I made it pretty clear which decks were bots/suspected bots, and it was none of those (nor have I actually run into any of those yet - the closest being an Odyn Warrior deck).
It was attempted humor. Guess it didn't land. My desire to try new things leads me to play really weird decks before rotation.
I get it, I play a lot of decks for fun, too... but I play them in the Casual room (not that it matters, really... since 95%+ of what you face in there are people running net/ladder decks who are just too chicken shit to run them where it actually counts).
But yeah... those aren't what I'd ever normally call bot decks on composition alone...
Couldn’t face a single human on NA two days ago. Not a single one. Stopped at plat 1. The bot problem is out of hand, they’re losing the battle.
So this is purely a hypothesis, but I'm seeing some commonalities in who is and isn't facing bots in this thread.
I've done the full Legend climb for the last four months and I have only clocked maybe one or two bots this whole time. Lately I've been playing most days, at least enough to complete the daily quests, mostly because we've had a lot of events with event quests back to back and you only have one slot for those dailies. Sometimes I let my quests accumulate for three days. I've also been grinding out 500 wins on DK so I've been making an effort to get 5 wins a day when I do play.
Hitting Legend each season means I start each season with a 10x star bonus, which quickly turns into a 20x/18x/16x star bonus due to win streaks as I progress. That allows me to leapfrog to Diamond within a relatively short span. In other words, I usually only spend a few days in the Gold-Platinum range. Diamond 5, where the win streak bonuses stop, is where things get difficult. I definitely don't think I saw any bots in that range. I spent the last five days or so seesawing back and forth between Diamond 3 and Diamond 1 before finally getting the win streak I needed to breach Legend, and most of those games were hard fought.
All this to say, I think what's happening is:
The consistent Diamond/Legend players are able to fairly easily climb beyond the metal ranks due to bonus stars and hidden MMR and so mainly wind up facing each other.
Bots wind up getting hard stuck in the metal ranks--Gold 5, Plat 10, etc.--and so players who don't climb as consistently, have fewer bonus stars, lower MMR, or who also get hard stuck in metal ranks also wind up accumulating in the same areas where the bots accumulate, and so wind up facing them more frequently.
I disagree.
I've reached legend too and usually end up at D5 or D10 every season and met plenty of bots there too unfortunately.
I Diamond (at least) every month as well, and as you can see from my current deck write-up/ladder tracker - in 60 games, I've faced 20 (definitive) bots - yes, statistically speaking if you're jumping many tiers at a time with bonus stars and win streaks, then you're less likely to face bots... because you're less likely to face ANYTHING - you're simply playing fewer games than others are.
That doesn't mean the bots aren't there.