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The fact people actually believe this card is anything but terrible says a lot about this forum.

 The fact that we all have different thoughts about the strength of this card says we probably don't actually know yet how strong it will be. 

Pretending like you know without a doubt how strong it will be is just arrogant and counterproductive. 

Well...you compare a broken mechanic (jades) with a balanced, well designed card (Astral Tiger). Think about this. ;-)

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The fact people actually believe this card is anything but terrible says a lot about this forum.

 The fact that we all have different thoughts about the strength of this card says we probably don't actually know yet how strong it will be. 

Pretending like you know without a doubt how strong it will be is just arrogant and counterproductive. 

 Think about this for a minute. It's a 4 mana 3/5, that makes your late game draw worse(you certainly don't want to be drawing a 4 mana 3/5 beyond turn 6 on most games). The ONLY scenario where the card's effect will be positive is if you reach fatigue. The reason why jade idol is a good(rather broken) card is because it eventually becomes a 1 mana summon a 6/6 or better. Playing a 4 mana 3/5 is not even comparable to that.

This is pretty obvious stuff if you played hearthstone for over 6 months, let alone when the game has been out for more than 3 years.

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The fact people actually believe this card is anything but terrible says a lot about this forum.

 The fact that we all have different thoughts about the strength of this card says we probably don't actually know yet how strong it will be. 

Pretending like you know without a doubt how strong it will be is just arrogant and counterproductive. 

 Think about this for a minute. It's a 4 mana 3/5, that makes your late game draw worse(you certainly don't want to be drawing a 4 mana 3/5 beyond turn 6 on most games). The ONLY scenario where the card's effect will be positive is if you reach fatigue. The reason why jade idol is a good(rather broken) card is because it eventually becomes a 1 mana summon a 6/6 or better. Playing a 4 mana 3/5 is not even comparable to that.

This is pretty obvious stuff if you played hearthstone for over 6 months, let alone when the game has been out for more than 3 years.

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The fact people actually believe this card is anything but terrible says a lot about this forum.

 The fact that we all have different thoughts about the strength of this card says we probably don't actually know yet how strong it will be. 

Pretending like you know without a doubt how strong it will be is just arrogant and counterproductive. 

 Think about this for a minute. It's a 4 mana 3/5, that makes your late game draw worse(you certainly don't want to be drawing a 4 mana 3/5 beyond turn 6 on most games). The ONLY scenario where the card's effect will be positive is if you reach fatigue. The reason why jade idol is a good(rather broken) card is because it eventually becomes a 1 mana summon a 6/6 or better. Playing a 4 mana 3/5 is not even comparable to that.

This is pretty obvious stuff if you played hearthstone for over 6 months, let alone when the game has been out for more than 3 years.

 And what if there exists a control/fatigue Druid deck that includes Geist and runs two Astral Tigers?  

"Playing a 4 mana 3/5 is not comparable to....1 mana 6/6" - so then, no one can play any minion ever again because Jade Idol is "strictly better," right?  

Maybe you're right....but you don't really know how the meta will end up or if this card will be strong.  All I'm saying is....these discussion threads exist for a reason, and if you don't have a constructive way to contribute to that discussion, there's not much reason to post here borderline insult anyone who disagrees with you. 

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The fact people actually believe this card is anything but terrible says a lot about this forum.

 The fact that we all have different thoughts about the strength of this card says we probably don't actually know yet how strong it will be. 

Pretending like you know without a doubt how strong it will be is just arrogant and counterproductive. 

 Think about this for a minute. It's a 4 mana 3/5, that makes your late game draw worse(you certainly don't want to be drawing a 4 mana 3/5 beyond turn 6 on most games). The ONLY scenario where the card's effect will be positive is if you reach fatigue. The reason why jade idol is a good(rather broken) card is because it eventually becomes a 1 mana summon a 6/6 or better. Playing a 4 mana 3/5 is not even comparable to that.

This is pretty obvious stuff if you played hearthstone for over 6 months, let alone when the game has been out for more than 3 years.

 And what if there exists a control/fatigue Druid deck that includes Geist and runs two Astral Tigers?  

"Playing a 4 mana 3/5 is not comparable to....1 mana 6/6" - so then, no one can play any minion ever again because Jade Idol is "strictly better," right?  

Maybe you're right....but you don't really know how the meta will end up or if this card will be strong.  All I'm saying is....these discussion threads exist for a reason, and if you don't have a constructive way to contribute to that discussion, there's not much reason to post here borderline insult anyone who disagrees with you. 

 Well excuse me, but I'm a guy who, by nature, despises political correctness as a whole, so i'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I'm not actually sorry. This is an Internet forum based on a videogame, not a lawyer firm. Which means I will indeed point out that bad Hearthstone players who think they aren't bad are in fact, bad, rather than giving them a pat in the back.

And no, jade idol is not a better card than everything else in every scenario, because it requires you to build your deck around it. The reason I mentioned jade idol, is because people seem to be implying that, because one card that potentially gives you infinite deck size is broken, any piece of crap card that blizzard releases with a similar effect obviously is so as well.

Hey, why are we even having this debate again. Druid used to have a 7 MANA 9/7 WITH THE EXACT SAME EFFECT that never saw play in any competitive decks. I won't even bother to say that a 7 mana 9/7 is a card you would much rather have in a deck that wants to go to fatigue, because that is probably too complicated for you to understand. 

But hey, keep your "opinion". Just be sure to know that it is fact, wrong.

If this didn't have the text would you play it?  No? then why would you want to draw and play this over and over again?

It has some synergy with the 8 mana druid senjin shield master that recruits 2 4 cost minions but that alone doesn't sell me on this card.

Love this card, just wish it was a neutral card. 

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If this didn't have the text would you play it?  No? then why would you want to draw and play this over and over again?

I wish this card did keep the stats over time.