Xzirez: Belcher Hunter (Top 10 Legend)
- Last updated Sep 9, 2014 (Naxx Launch)
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Wild
- 18 Minions
- 12 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Unknown
- Crafting Cost: 600
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 8/29/2014 (Naxx Launch)
- Xzirez
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Battle Tag:
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Region:
EU
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Total Deck Rating
1986
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Test Log:
Here i will list changes that I'm testing that are doing good.
+ Wolf rider, - Haunted creeper, - one hunters mark, - one hound master.
Meta Slots IMPORTANT:
1 Drops: Wespinner can be changed for elven archer which i good in aggro metas. 2 timber wolfs for unleash power if needed.2 Webspinners if control meta, Warrior etc.
2 Drops: River crook for tempo, haunted creeper for board, Hyena for early snowball if meta allows for easy setups. Knife juggler for combo with creeper. Anything else is not recommended as a 2 drop.
3 Drops: Animal companion is staple, Harvest golem for sticky minion.
4 Drops: Houndmaster almost always, Senjin for taunt if aggro meta, Yeti for priest. anything else is not recommended.
5 Drops: Belcher for taunt if meta is aggro/midranged based. Azure drake if meta is combo based/late game. Tiger for control without spells. Loatheb for spell meta. kodo vs druid.
6 Drops: Higmane always in this deck. sylvanas can work. Argent commander can work.
7+ Drops: I don't know anything that could work here but something like alex might work.
Cutting hunters mark is for aggro/tempo metas were you can't afford to clog your hand early.
Other hunter builds run undertaker and bow but this is a completely different build than this one.
FAQ:
I don't like tracking why is this card so good?
i know a lot of people want to do this change to the deck and i think its a noobs way of looking at tracking tbh. Tracking lets you pick and choose between the cards you want for the different match ups. This is also why i have two of almost everything so if you discard one hyena for example you can always get it back since theres two of them. getting tracking when your one kill command of lethal has won me so many games. i don't know if the deck is even half as good without this card. if even if you don't like tracking now you will like it after a while.
Why no lerroy?
adding lerroy makes unleash to much of an essential card since you now have 4 cards that requires this combo to have full potential and will often make your hand clogged. If this was a tempo hunter it would be great being.
Mulligan:
always keep a good hyena combo. Webspinner is only a keep when going first.
Druid: Unleash, A good curve.
Rouge: Good curve, Hyena early. if he has coin dont play a 2 health minion turn 2 he can coin s7 and you lose. You need to push for damage early and never let him have minions on baord.
Shaman: Unleash and buzzard wins the game. A good curve. Hyena combo should not be kept as they have earth shock.
Warrior: Savannah higmane, A good curve early hyena might win the game. ALWAYS mulligan for buzzard in this matchup.
Priest: Animal Companion, Houndmaster, a 2 drop. Belcher should not be kept its more important getting the 4 attacks.
Warlock: Unleash the hounds always, Haunted creeper, Animal companion. Unleash the hounds and hyena is the most important in this matchup. Hyena can win you the game easily.
Gameplay:
Mirror:Savannah highmane on board first is a big pirority. Always remove their beasts so they can't use houndmaster for value. Flareing a trap gives you a much higher win rate.Belcher into Higmane is top priority. Always go face if you have a taunt or if you cant make a value trade. Dont have more then 2 minions on board if there not more then 2 health
Druid: Be aware of combo. Save hunters mark for the most value.
Priest: Hyena behind a taunt and you win. 4 attacks minions. Hyena on the board with other minions makes it innvunreable too board clear.
Warlock: Save unleash for combo try and remove everything. Belcher, hyena and unleash is top priorty.
Warrior: High drops, tracking turn 1 is rlly good here better then in any other matchup. Savanna higmane. Try and bait early removal so highmane can stay for 2 turns. dont trade if you have taunt dont fill your board with minions because of brawl. You need to hurry up and kill him before fatigue.
Streaming at : Twitch.tv/vbsof was rank 3 EU now top 50 climbing back up.
Played this deck to legend last season, and I'm currently rank 2 with it. Brilliant list, but may I ask for some predictions on how strong the deck will be after the nerf? I want to craft all golden cards for it, but I'd like my golden deck to be viable haha ^_^
Deck in the link just sucks with 1 mark anyway (removing one of the best removal in the game it's just terrible), anyone runs something like that, so I will talk about what's listed on the right side of the topic xD.
Only thing I changed to what u listed is - 1 Timber Wolf + 1 Webspiner (Because by itself timber is a dead card in a hand and u surely need to put 1st drop when u playing first, even second to save coin for late board and dont get snowballed by opponent and its deathrattle is amazing which makes it good by itself)
- 1 Flare + 1 Loatheb (I dont face too many traps and it become something like a dead card/situational card where u can place really value card for more confident late game especially vs AOE)
Of course boar saved me a lots of games by one shooting minions with mark and its really good card to play it with buzzard and people shouldn't change it.
As I realised in the best scenario:
1st Drop - Webspiner
2nd Drop - Hyena-Croc-Spider
3rd Drop - Animal Companion
4th Drop - Houndmaster
5th Drop - Belcher-Loatheb/Cycle combo to get the Highmane for 6th turn/Buzzard&Unleash/Buzzard&Hyena
6th Drop - Highmane
P.s My english sucks xD
this deck is really good for me so far dude. I will let you know if i find any improvements to it as i play.
I am not sure about 2x tracking and 1x hunters mark, wouldn't be better to have 1 tracking and 2 marks since this deck runs 2x unleash? So far I am pretty much loosing to every priest and I am not sure if I like that ... Still, it is quite fun to play
i am constantly changing the deck atm to try and find a unbeatable build for the current meta. try the updates i do to the list see if it works if not revert to original. i changed it back to original list - dire wolf and will only have new lists in desc from now on.
In current meta turn 2 is the turn were people buff there undertaker, play armour smith or north shire. Haunted creeper dosen`t kill any of these minions and dies to all of them easily so river crook is currently more reliable in most current match ups because of the three health. meta is also very tempo based and river crook is a great tempo card since it kills all the two health two drops and only dies to three drops cards except for fiery war axe which is such a good value card anyways. Having to play the crook is pretty shitty since i would rather play hyena or hunters mark but in the current meta its a most i feel like. when these undertaker hunters are gone i can change it back to what it used to be. i might completely swap the haunted creeper and put in some stronger cards depending on my match ups and overall win rate this season which has been terrible compared to other seasons. was legend day three last season no I'm rank two 8th day in.
good desk
I like this desk too, it's really sturdy against the current meta. It can stand on its own feet, and it's very stable. It also provides a good basis to work on.
Will it be good if I replace 1 highmane with Leeroy?
Absolutely not, dont replace your Savannah they are just too good, replace one Scavenging Hyena or Tracking
Great deck! really like to play it. I made some minor changes to the updated list you posted in the description +1 Hunter's Mark, -1 Tracking. Only class i lose to a lot is control warrior.....but even that match i feel like it's rng, if Armorsmith hits the field within the first 2 turns then i am in for a tough game, especially if he can follow it up with Unstable Ghoul. Other than that this list is pretty solid against most other decks.....especially other hunter lists.....
How is the new deck you linked vs the old one? I haven't got enough time to test it out but is it stronger in the current meta?
all i know is i won game when i did some changes. the river crooks and the - 1 hunters mark is probably what made the difference. I found that i had to have a ton of 2 drops to compete with the current meta because its so fast. people will put down so much early pressure even if your playing priest. I'm not sure if all the cards there are the best to use but it seems like playing river crook at least in this meta is a good thing.
I try and be nice to people but after the 30th time of hearing how bad the deck is and how belcher is shit in hunter i got pretty mad. A lot of the comments i get are people just complaining about the deck with nothing to back them up. It annoys me how people just think there the greatest deck builder with nothing to show for and talk about how almost all the cards in my deck are bad choices. If the people that come here to talk shit about the deck had something to show like statistics or gameplay like i have i would probably be a lot more friendly.
For your card questions:
Owl is a must in the current meta so many silence targets.
Boar is there to kill 1 health before turn 5 or to buff hyena.
Dire Wolf is a card that i don't really know what to play over him and he has synergy with the spiders so he can win me some early game.
I play one web spinner because he has no effect on board and i often get captains parrot which i don't like. if people feel like they will get value from him play him over
Hyena just need one creature death and its better then any 2 drop in the game.
I played bow for a while but since a lot of the match ups run harrison jones or flare which makes you lose almost instantly i don't feel like there good picks.
Its only natural my list is similar to others because its often easy to see what cards to play in hearthstone because there are so few of them.
100 likes thx so much guys:) have posted a link in desc with the current deck I'm running which might be a lot better in the current meta but I'm not to sure.
You only think you need 1 hunter's mark?
Sorry, but i don't believe that this deck is very easy against priest: A control-Priest deck with silence and shadow madness will wreck this deck very hard.
it depends on the list so much thats its hard to say. I'm losing to the current list people are using a lot more then i used to. i used to win more then i lost against priest last season and would often just win so easily. most of the games are lost to double undertaker nowadays which is just unbeatable also zombie chow crushes this deck since there is no good way to deal with two of them on the board easily. i honestly don't even know anything when it comes to hearthstone anymore just seems like some days i win every game while others i go 50/50 and most my games are unwinnable. starting to believe more and more in the concept of bad luck streaks due to rng .
sure tracking is a good card, still u need to choose between 3 cards. sometimes all piece cards u need in a machup, it can also be a great treath to ditch 2 cards u need really bad. and ofc u have the situation u can choose ur kill command to finnish ur oponent.
i dont say its a bad card, but still it has some minnors to it .
great explanation of the deck ,
greetings Hypertjuh