Alliestrasza and Lt. Eddy Cancel Card Reveals over Blizzard Allegations and Law Suit
Content Creators Alliestrasza and Lt. Eddy, who were both scheduled to have card reveals today both decided to not do their reveals on the scheduled time due to news that broke about a law suit against ActivisionBlizzard about sexual harrassment and gender based discrimination.
Here is a link to a story on The Verge which has all the relevant information about that suit, including a statement by ActivisionBlizzard on the topic.
Below you will find the courageous video message by Alliestrasza explaining why she made her decision, as well as Lt. Eddy's tweets on the topic.
FRIDAY EDIT: Trump has announced today that he is also pulling his card reveal. Blizzard also decided to pull more reveals from their own official channels, scheduled in the next few hours. See the video in which Trump explains his reasoning below.
Hey folks, not releasing my card reveal today. https://t.co/YzFRcjwFyk pic.twitter.com/rkXEVuPM4K
— Alliestrasza (@Alliestrasza) July 22, 2021
Please note: This happens at other companies, if not most. Even your own workplace that you’re unaware of. Please stand up against this behavior if you see it.
— Lt. Eddy (@LieutenantEddy) July 22, 2021
Oh this made me laugh hysterically……….people have not a clue how the real world works ….comments like this are frightening.
These kids in youtube just play the system and use this s a convenient excuse to fake outrage and get attention for themselves. They have no integrity or conviction. They shouldn’t cancel their card reveals they should cancel all their blizzard accounts and stop making money for blizzard but oh wait that’s how they make money as well. Hypocrites are a dime a dozen. I don’t care what the people at blizzard do. The state is suing them because they need money. California is a broke joke and that’s why everyone is leaving . The whole thing is a money grab and everyone gets on the bandwagon. As if canceling a card reveal amounts to a puddle of rat piss anyway. When Monday rolls around nobody will even care. I see just how much that Hong Kong incident made a dent in anything. The corporate hate and the hatred of capitalism in general is quite sickening. I just laugh at people like this because they don’t fool me and never will. They only look stupid in the end. I love how people just believe anything without knowing jack about the facts . Simpletons will believe anything ……this crap shouldn’t even be on a game forum. Remove it and go post it on some garbage social media site where the braindead zombies can stew over it there. We don’t want this garbage here.
Somewhat ironic that when their communities protested for fair monetisation, they did f*ck all.
What a joke.
This thread literally gives me cancer the more I read it. I mean the attitude like this is exactly why these allegations keep popping up and never get any traction - idc about politics, look away and let me enjoy the game. Activision is a slimy ass corporation with stories like this floating around for years and the moment it finally may get what it deserves there is an army of people harassing streamers they should not take any side, just let them consoom the product XD You get to wait 3 more days to see the cards you wont get to play with for the next week. I dont think that is a reason to call people retarded or autistic as some of the comments do...
I never follow these streamers, so who cares? Got megabundle mine and get hype with all new cards.
Based, we get a set released at least that isn't totally spoiled two weeks in advance. A small price to pay for kino
If anyone actually read the entire document they would have taken notice all the accusations in the document were directly related to the Wow development team and the Battle.net team throughout the document there are no mentions of the overwatch/hearthstone/diablo team themselves. Majority of which is oriented around the wow team. While I personally agree that those involved should be held accountable. I don't think refusing to reveal cards affecting the team not involved in the inncident is the best way of dealing with it. This is also coming from someone who said that it was wrong to not include more women in the events from blizzard in a prior post. Having read the entire document completely when this news came out. I do think that people are reacting much more poorly because of that. Simply shedding light that there were some serious things occured and giving people the ability to read the information via a link below there reveal videos would have been sufficient so people themselves could choose how to react to the information. I had to go and look up the information myself and find the court document for it. I personally think negatively putting this on people not involved is also not a good idea. The only people held accountable should be those involved in the inncident if found guilty. Not people who may not have even known this was going on.
The document itself can be found at
https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/22/22588215/activision-blizzard-lawsuit-sexual-harassment-discrimination-pay
Tbf some of the HS/overwatch devs are old wow devs from back in vanilla,-wotlk era
The whole point is the accusations based on the document are centered around the past 2 years // the wow team and its not even the entire team. The document is much more serious than the accusations that Riot had in a similar regard. You should not punish every person tied to a group for 1 persons actions. Its like saying that if you have 20 people and 3 people of those 20 are responsible for something horrific the other 17 should be held accountable which is not the case. If you were in those 17 other people you may not have even known what that specific action is and should not be held accountable for it. Some of those people are even standing up for the people who were harmed because they have a perspective on it. Not to mention its innocent until proven guilty not guilty until proven innocent. Not to stand up for anyone who may have been involved in the inncident in question. The point is that people can make there own choice how they feel about it and have the information available. Equality should be present if the information present supports that there is inequality then actions taken should be taken. Vanilla-wotlk are more than 2 years old additionally the documentation specifically states that the people involved were/are part of those 2 specific teams with Blizzard and unless more information comes out saying otherwise this is my opinion but you shouldn't loop everyone into the same group. Or punish / Point the fingers at them without anything to support it. Only 2 specific names are mentioned in the entire document and 1 of them was actually while not taking the correct response to the situation in the light presented not supporting the action. Again the information is present in the document for people to make up there own decisions while standing on that. But guilty by association specifically assumes the responsible party was aware of the situation.
Jimmy who sells potatoes at a grocery store owned by the mafia may not even know the store is owned by the mafia and there for could not be found guilty by association just because Jimmy works at the store. That is the point to be said as you cant pin everyone as part of the problem just because they work for blizzard. Unless those people are grouped into the specific situation or light presents itself to there involvement making that call just is not fair to them as individuals.
Multiple Hearthstone devs (that never worked on other teams) on twitter have already confirmed that such behavior was common on the Hearthstone team.
I did find some references to support what your saying after you brought it up. Those same references though do say like most of the legal document it is not the entire team. I can understand boycotting much more in that perspective. There are some other things brought up in same perspective including a very disgusting video that was found from blizz con 2010. I would post a link but its pretty deplorable but that was the wow team specifically there.
I would personally still hold off on making judgement calls to things like that until there are more official details. As it doesnt just affect the people involved directly but those who may have had no part in the situation what so ever. Especially since you will see a hype train of people just using it as a publicity stunt. While some of those people will be legidimately speaking up. As was best said let the legal system take its action properly instead of putting it on everyone. Think about it from perspective if you were one of the people not involved. Should you be affected just because you were at the same company. As its not only blizzard that has had that issue happen lately basically its just the more known issue there have also been reports with EA/Riot/Ubisoft. But again blizzards documentation is much more serious in the nature of some of the specific accusations.
I mean, you go from "It wasn't the Hearthstone team" to "Well ok it was them too, but so what - they're probably just using their horrific experiences as a hype train"
These are not "accusations." These are official details. This is the result of a two year investigation by the state of California.
You never cared about the facts. Don't pretend otherwise.
You clearly need to learn to read better and I would try to be vivid in my statement but there isnt much point your just looking for a way to try and push your opinion out there. Because a girls twitter page is not the officual document. There is zero reference in the actual doucment I linked it. 2 law is innocent till proven guilty regardless if they look guilty not guilty until proven innocent.
Last time ill be replying to anything from you learn to read an entire conversation piece instead of picking and chosing lines of text to read. If you even read the first thing I said in full it says make your own opinion off the document but that I think we shouldnt presume when you have a single document to go off. Because twitter posts after the information is already out there is that hype train going and talking to the police after the fact or the lawyers and saying nothing on social media is more actual action instead of trying to chime into something and make yourself stand out more. As details to them actually being found guilty or not gives more weight to the argument than posting it on twitter. Not to say those people were not affected but people will in SOME NOT ALL cases do it just to attention grab. Court documentation would carry a lot more weight. Its not to discredit any actions from those people but its kind of one them to present themselves to the case and let the courts resolve it.
Perfect example being the guy who did the voice lines being Kel'thuzad who was fired then found innocent and then still suffers the consequences after the fact. Or anyone who says I was part of it and then doesn't go and put there part into the case because those people are saying hey it affected me but I don't want anything done about it. If it affected you then you participate you don't post on twitter about it. As that also gives the case a lot more traction.
I know reality is hard for you, but this is not "a girl's Twitter page." This is not one guy getting accused. This is not one person doing the accusing. This is an avalanche of incidents across years.
I'm not interested in your walls of text rationalizing why you refuse to believe facts and doubting everyone stating that this was true and suggesting they're making up their own personal experiences. It's laughable really. Even after Blizzard settles out of court (and they will, they will NEVER take this to trial for more testimony to come out) you'll be babbling about since it never went to trial we'll never know the facts.
So funny to watch this
These "creators" are using this just for hype
I think it is not even worth mentioning on heartpwn
I think that heartpwn is doing it so people who don't know about this are not bugging them with "where are the reveals from today, bla bla..."
I think it's understandable.
Why so many haters guys CHIL!
I decided to buy the $80 bundle and the GulDan adventure because of the >ALLEGATIONS<
:)
Considering Blizzard is pretty woke, I wouldn't put the behavior past them; however I also wouldn't trust any investigation done by the most corrupt state government in the country.