New Neutral Legendary Card Revealed - Frizz Kindleroost
NGA forums in China just revealed a new Descent of Dragons Neutral Legendary card on their site: Frizz Kindleroost
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Nope, false.
That is exactly what people said about Keleseth. Then, reality happened.
care to explain why?
Except keleseth came way earlier, was a great fit for aggro and it affected ALL the minions in your deck, not a specific tribe. I mean how much dragons can you realistically put into your deck without making it complete and utter garbage if you don’t draw this card?
I’m with Greenpig, this seems overhyped
The Zoolock deck alone was good without playing Keleseth until you were able to draw him, so as long as you have a dragon deck that is good on its own, it will have a reason to run this card and just become upgraded after you draw this
If you play a Dragon deck, at least 80% of your minions will be Dragons, so your holding effects are consistent.
This card has on curve vanilla stats and a major upside. Of course it is going to be played.
A few other points to add to discussion already (cba doing math):
At 4 mana, chance to be drawn by/on t4 significantly higher than having keleseth on t2.
The chance of drawing a dragon that has been discounted (as this only affects your deck) on curve after playing this card is moderate.
The chance of having drawn key discount targets before being able to play this is moderate.
A two mana discount on a dragon is significant, but nowhere near as impactful as current mana cheats (Fleshshaper / Mutate, etc.).
Keleseth presented a consistent increase in pressure for aggresive decks. This card offers some spike/ramp potential but will give opponents until ~t6/7 to generate a response (except in druid). This opens up plenty of counterplay opportunities.
The statline is interesting as decks that aim for board control will usually prefer to deal with a 5/4 than a 4/5, however this statline trades up (though 5 health is generally not seen as significant).
Overall this will be a strong card that will see play, though I'm not sure it will be as broken and nerf-worthy as some think.
Imagine playing rogue. You can shadowstep this 2 times after playing togwaggle scheme. This is a heavy battlecry that can open up alot of crazy things. Paladin could put this in their deck and play the 3 mana draw the lowest cost minion and give it +2/+2. So then you have a 3/30 chance to get this legendary. The rest of your deck is full of dragons and card draw. 5/5
You know what kind of deck could possibly beat this kind of value? Aggro. See you on the 10th, I don't think we're allowed to have fun on ladder anymore so I make no illusions I won't play a degenerate deck to counter this and the ridiculous new Galakrond Legendary/New Alex. I also expect Murloc Shaman to stay as well, what a fun new meta this will be.
Please go look at the list of dragons and think about how perfect your draw RNG has to be for this card to have any significant impact. This is nowhere near as good of a card as people are acting like it is. We are not going to have all dragon decks so the pipe dream of "this discounts everything in deck by 2" is insane and a vast majority of the time the most impact this will have is freeing you up to hero power on the same turn that you drop a late-game bomb.
It will enable old school innervate level of power plays on turns 5-7 in the fairly unlikely scenario that you draw one of your 7-9 cost dragons in those exact 3 draws but the turn 5-7 power plays are not why Innervate was nerfed. Don't get me wrong, it's a powerful effect and there will be games that are decided by dropping this guy on 4, but I'd be willing to bet this will only end up being meta in either A) some kind of Druid Ramp deck thats just trying to T2 Breath of Dreams T3 This T4+ drop big threats or B) Highlander decks. I dont actually think this will prove powerful enough to be in most decks, much less to see a nerf in the first month like many are predicting.
There's only one dragon you need in your deck to make this insanely strong, to a point where it easily enables OTK decks without any loss of tempo. And that's just with one dragon, forget dragon centric decks that'll have upwards of 10 dragon discounts when this gets played.
No, 4/5/4 that makes 1 card in deck cost 2 less is not insanely strong.
If you’re playing this to enable an OTK combo then half the time you will draw the dragon before this and another percentage of the time you will have drawn both before getting to play this. So it will inherently lose more than 50% of the time before even taking matchups into account. This is not a combo enabler.
As for dragon centric decks, as I’ve already said, it’s only really going to generate tempo on the rare occasions that you draw well the next few turns after playing him on curve. The rest of the time 2 mana won’t let you play another card very often. It’ll just let you use your hero power which quite frankly isn’t all that good.
Thank you. I understand people would be upset over cost reduction as it's a very potentially game breaking effect but I believe they did a good job balancing this card, I don't think this is anything like a Keleseth effect or as strong as it was.
Everyone is freaking out, but this is obviously getting nerfed in the first patch after launch. No way can they just let this sit around. Mark my words, they'll either increase it to 6 mana or it'll reduce the cost of dragons in your deck by 1.
Imagine someone making a good Dragon quest Shaman 😫
*Begins having flashbacks of 2015*
Can we not put this in the game? This is genuinely horrifying.
I'm a bit scared that this could guide us into another year of the raven in 2020
They are going to have to HoF Malygos if they keep printing cards like this
nice legendary insta craft :D