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No worries, I've found the other ones.

These are meta defining card, meta warping cards that will decide the future of the meta and are absolute best in the set. This makes the whole thing even funnier.

Rastakhan's Rumble: https://www.hearthpwn.com/news/6311-the-hearthpwn-rastakhans-rumble-community

TOP RATED CARDS:

Revenge of the Wild

High Priest Thekal

Da Undatakah

Mojomaster Zihi

Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk

Spirit of the Rhino

Master's Call

Zentimo

Zul'jin

Soulwarden

These were meta defining cards according to this community. Hell, the only one that was meta defining, Zul'Jin, was 12 points lower than Revenge of the Wild.

How about Boomsday Project?

Flobbidinous Floop

Dreampetal Florist

Juicy Psychmelon

Lab Recruiter

Glow-Tron

Academic Espionage

Luna's Pocket Galaxy pre-nerf omegalul

Electra Stormsurge

Omega Assembly

Dr. Boom, Mad Genius

Wow, they got two cards that ended up being meta defining. Great job!

My point stands. Hearthpwn community is a good community but it is absolute shit at judging cards. 

Reckless Flurry is incredible in Odd Warrior.

You're right! It only took it a year to become relevant.

All you have proven is that you have a narrower definition of "meta-defining" than most people.

Nice reaching.

My point still stands. The community was completely off with these predictions. Almost none of the cards saw any competitive play (or play at all). If you need further proof I'll gladly dig in deeper and bring you more compendiums but I think that I've proven my point.

Disagree. From Boomsday project Florist and Melon were pain in the ass in early meta. Floop (and sometimes Florist) is used even now in quest druid. Glowtron is staple in mech paladin. Electra was used in OTK spell Shaman. Omega assembly and Dr. Boom are staple in any warrior deck. Academic Espionage was mostly a meme but still there were draw decks with Unstable Element + Espionage combo.

Melon didn't see play in any relevant deck in standard.

Floop became relevant over a year later.

Glowtron is a staple in a deck isn't impactful at all.

Electra was used in a deck that wasn't impactful at all.

Omega Assembly and Dr. Boom were the only meta defining cards.

We're not talking about cards that saw play in a whatever xyz deck. Every card can see play somewhere. We're talking about cards being meta defining, the best cards in the set, which these aren't.

Academic Espionage, the trash meme card, had a 49,5% meta defining vote while Ziliax, the most impactful legendary of the set and still the most used neutral legendary in the damn game (over a year later) had 25,1% vote. That tells you enough how bad this community is at judging cards.

I'm not saying the community is super smart in these matters, but your original claim was that "none" of them are right. That is preposterous, and I'm sure several cards on the list in this article will indeed shape the meta.

Well, meta defining doesn't mean that card is better than "very good". It's means that it can create new archetype, revive old one or upgrade exisitng one in impactful way and that doesn't mean that deck must be good. Ziliax isn't meta defining, it's just very good card which is used in every possible deck. Espionage created Espionage Rogue so it's more meta defining than Ziliax. Melon, Floop and Florist were part of Hadronox Druid (cancer) and Combo Druid with Charged Devilsaur+Cube (cancer too).

You, of course, have recognized all the meta-defining cards every time, right?

Top, Pro, and highly skilled players get their predictions wrong constantly because when the player community is this vast, you can't really expect what would shape the meta, and it changes during the 4 months an expansion runs at least 2-3 times anyway, so calling anything "meta defining" when it's strong for a month and then never run again is warped.

Side note - for a card to be meta defining it needs to be really broken and impossible to play against, which would just make it bad for the game.

If Oko taught us anything, it's that single meta-defining cards are bad and should be banned.

Not every time but my track record isn't half bad, though I must admit that I'm better at knowing which cards will be absolute trash than which cards will be meta-defining. Take the new Nozdormu, for example. It is utter trash yet the community is super hyped about it and calls it ''meta-defining''

I never kept track of your record so I'll take your word for it. Maybe you should start a twitch channel with your great track record, I'd watch it.

Huge, unorthodox effects would always be loved by the community, even if Nozdormu would be run just as much as the old one, the effect is really cool, and all you have to do is find some sort of interaction that would make it great (ramping with holy wrath Paladin, just off the top of my head). So sure, it's overhyped, but that was to be expected when the high-roll potential is this big.

Bwonsamdi, the Dead was trash and saw no play until Hunterace made it a combo priest staple, and there are numerous other examples. I wonder how much sooner your version of combo priest ran it, necause I'm, pretty certain you called it trash (like everyone) when it first came out.

Cards are evaluated when they come out on the basis of the current and upcoming meta. It is impossible to predict if Blizzard will choose to support a certain card several months/years down the line. That is why calling Bwonsamdi, the Dead trash was accurate when the predictions were made.

It is like saying ''Hey guys, Aviana wasn't actually trash because several years later she was a staple in a tier 1 wild deck''

 

Did I just read correctly and you compared a wideapread world-championship and GM run deck to wild? We really can't have a valuable discussion if that's the case.

Nice job at completely ignoring the point.

fate weaver is the reason they hall of famed mind blast,
understandable have a nice day 
velen for 5, 2 mindblasts for 0, 2 smite for0 - that makes 28 damage with 5 mana, more if you add spell damage to the mix

You are so wrong, this combo was possible when Emperor Thaurissan was in standard yet it never saw any play and Fate Weaver is objectively worse than Thaurissan. 

Do I smell a Fatality fan?

Nozdormu the Timeless is a perfect addition to Big Paladin.

These predictions are always so accurate.