New Mage Card - Conjurer's Calling
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Destroy Barnes, summon 2 random 4drop for the priest, spamming trash to the ress pool
Then use 2nd copy to add 2 more. Whole res pool is fucked with just one card. You still have to deal with a whole board of 4 drops ofc... :D
This card would be just good if it didn't have the twinspell. But with the twinspell makes this card ridiculous.
Nerf incomming within 2 months... this card is Insane!!!
it is good to have a spell like this in the pool for discover and random spells, imo.
We have seen similar effects that summon 2 minions or copies of minions. This is similar to Cube. Obviously, there are some differences. I'm just saying, never understand estimate effects that summons 2 copies of anything. Potential meta card there.
If you destroy an activated Mecha'thun with this, will the new summons cancel Mecha'thuns deathrattle?
It should disrupt the Deathrattle, because the spell hasn't finished. The spell will destroy Mecha'thun, summon the minions next, then Mecha'Thun's Deathrattle will activate.
If you know anything about Magic the Gathering, it's kind of like "the stack": effects having to wait their turn so they play out in a specific order. The spell must complete itself in its entirety before the next thing can go.
I'm sure someone will try out a Mecha'Thun Mage with this, just to try it; then we'll know for sure haha
I actually believe this would work with Mecha'thun.
Hearthstone doesn’t work at all like MtG’s stack. Each effect has a phase associated with it. Any deathrattle effect triggered due to one of these phases acts as a phase within a phase. Deathrattle in particular can interject like this and are not stacked on the pile as it were.
It is true however that all effects such as deathrattles or end of turn that are triggered at the same time must all play out before any subsequent triggers or effects can activate. It is also true that the effect such as deathrattles that were triggered simultaneously will go off in order of play. This may lead to different outcomes in certain cases but all simultaneously triggered effects must play out.
For example when you AoE and kill a Leper Gnome and a Zombie Chow at the same time even if the gnome was played first a player with less then 2hp would still survive because both effects were triggered at the same time so both must play out.
However if we consider deathrattles like Mecha'thun and eggs we get the following play out differently.
If Mecha'thun is played before an egg and both are killed at the same time Mecha'thun will still kill the opponent because even though both deathrattles have to play out the Mecha'thun one goes first it won’t detect any minion in play as the egg is removed from play but hasn’t yet spawned its deathrattle. The player is marked for death and then then egg spawns it’s content. All deathrattles have played out but the player marked for death isn’t cancelled and the player dies.
If the egg is played first it would spawn the deathrattle and Mecha'thun’s condition is no longer valid.
This was similar to how Sylvanas Windrunner wouldn’t steal an egg’s content if she dies at the same time as an egg if she was played first but would if she was played second.
Spells that have multiple separate effects have a phase for each effect.
Take Blizzard for example. First it deals 2 damage to all minions. Then it freezes all minions separately. That’s why if Blizzard pops an egg the minions that spawn will become frozen.
The order goes in the order of the text. It’s why Druid’s casting Ultimate Infestation upgrades any spellstones it draws because the draw phase of the spell is before the armour gain. But paladins don’t have the same luxury with Lay on Hands and their Spellstone because the heal is before the draw in this case.
So for Conjurer’s Calling it would almost certainly be split into 2 phases. The first phase would be the destroy a minion. The second phase would be to summon the 2 minions. Since Mecha'thun deathrattle would actually trigger and play out within the destroy a minion phase it will never see the 2 minions that would spawn from the second part of the spell. Therefore it would indeed work.
I guess we would just have to try it and find out.
This may already be one of my Top 5 Favorite Cards list. It’s so strategic in it’s uses. Flexible, but risky. Powerful, but comes at a price. Do I destroy my own guy for 2 potentially better ones? Is destroying this enemy minion worth giving him 2 more of the same cost? These are the kind of decision-making cards I want in Hearthstone.
Agreed, I love the idea of a “removal” card that can also be used as a value tool. A lot of people on the competitive Hearthstone Discord are poo-pooing this card, but I think it’s really powerful. Removing buffs from low cost minions (Scavenging Hyena or a Silver Hand with BoK) gives a Devolve type effect. Using it on Giggling Inventor type cards gives it an Evolve-like effect. Using it on a cheap deathrattle minion makes it into a Terrorscale Stalker with better immediate tempo.
How retard you should be for use this as removal being a mage that has alot of removal, couldnt be used as removal because his efect is xform 1 minion to 2, thats the opposite of a removal.
It's more emergency removal than reliable removal. It can be the difference between win and lose. While it isn't technically removal given that you're replacing it with 2 others, you could use it to remove a huge taunt and go face. It's like silencing your own minions. Most of the time you're not gonna do it, but can win you the game if your minion is frozen and it's lethal. The fact that it's an option is the point I'm trying to make.
In the reveal video it was used on Spiteful Summoner a 7 cost but it looked like he got two 4 cost minions. Maybe the minions summoned have a combined cost equal (rounded up) to the original?
No he got a war golem and the new dr boom, both 7 drops. Since the card has twinspell, the second use was on the griftah, a 4 drop, which is where the two 4-cost minions came from.
Ok thanks for correcting and clarifying
Nah. It summoned a War Golem and the new Dr. Boom from this expansion. Both 7 mana
Doesn’t this mean you can get 18 to the face using it on Leeroy? Or am I reading this wrong?
Come to think of it, isn’t Leeroy, Khadgar, and this on Leeroy a legit OTK now?
Its a RANDOM minion of the same cost, not the same minion. Read correctly
They are "minions of the same cost" as opposed to 2 copies of the minion. So you would get 2 Leeroy-costed minions to replace him. You could technically get lucky and roll 2 of him though, if'n you pray to RNGesus.