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Good, we're all on the same page that this is worse than Geddon and Primordial Drake.
I will test this guy in a divine shield based deck were Baron Geddon would be counter productive.. most likely it gets eaten by cubelock/aggrodin
Fishes on a really big stick.
Now I'm hungry.
Guys it says at the end of turn,every turn that is...that's why you may play him over primordial drake.. Interesting mechanic, not very expensive for a control deck
It says end of your turn, if it was every turn it could help your opponent with effective trades too anyway
I have two main complaints about this card: it's a version of an already existing card and it's designed so it can't fulfill the purpose it was created for.
1) It's just a bad version of Baron Geddon, and it's not a secret to anyone here, because unlike Baron Geddon this card demands a setup, and in spite of what the majority tends to say about Whirlwind effects and how easy it is to activate this worgen, to keep a whirlwind effect specifically for such a card isn't either easy or productive. Some people compare it to Sleep with the Fishes, but the comparison is plainly unfair. Sleep with the Fishes is a two mana spell which is extremely flexible. This Worgen Abomination is 7 mana, and by the time you can play it, you are easily out of whirlwind effects in form of cards. The other possibility is to combine it with Bladestorm, and it becomes a 9 mana 6/6 - Deal 3 damage to all other minions. Abyssal Enforcer laughs at this. And let's not pretend it's going to live a single extra turn just because it has 6 health. 6 health at this stage of the game is a mere joke. Also - for all who might say it's incorrect to take Baron Geddon and Abyssal Enforcer as examples because they hit your own face - such cards aren't played if this drawback isn't negated by the class playing it. Both Warrior and Warlock have strong healing effects to completely forget about this issue. The fact that Worgen Abomination doesn't hit the face is minor and most of time insignificant.
2) Worgen Abomination can't do what it is designed for. By that I mean that a two-damage AOE is an anti-aggro tool aimed at clearing a fairly small-sized but flooded board. Sleep with the Fishes is good exactly for that reason - it has just the right amount of damage to clear the board at the stage of the game it is cast. But what board can realistically Worgen Abomination clear? Try to remember when Baron Geddon was successfully played last time for clearing purposes (outside of DK mage just for the sake of healing). It was at the time wallet warrior played it - almost three years ago! And now we see this effect tied to a lategame minion again? The effect is aimed at dealing with small board which exists mainly in the early game, and this is the main contradiction.
Overall, I'll be more than surprised if this card makes it into a single t3, 2 or 1 deck. The only redeeming factor is redundancy - if anybody wants to play two more pseudo-Geddons.
And for god's sake, it's so dull and unoriginal, I don't understand, is this so hard to make more creative and interesting cards in the set than freaking 10%?! Most of cards and mechanics we've seen so far are just twists on older cards and mechanics. I envy those people who are genuinely hyped about the upcoming expansion.
tbh u never played control warrior did u ? XD warrior doesnt rly care about the cost of it if it clears so its rly comparable to sleep with fishes and on top of that f ur garrosh u clear as long as this stays on board so the enemy is forced to remove it or he instantly loses just to 1 card ! vs aggro u didnt even need to sleep most of the time because bloodrazor is just so good to shut down aggro on its own.
Why would I play this over Geddon or even Primordial drake? The statline isn't nearly good enough for it to actually survive a turn and the fact that you need to combo it with another card to have any effect at all isn't good either.
The only thing it has going for it is that it'S friendly towards your own board, but what board-centric deck would run a 2-card combo to deal like 3-4 damage at turn 8 upwards?
Then again, most of the neutral epics so far (Cauuldron being the exception) have been pretty good so I'm glad that we get some bad ones for a change.
i can see this card + divine shield minions. they don't get damaged after their first attack and the opponent can't trigger the "self destruction" that easiely. once the divne shield is gone the minions harldy survive anyway a trade.
geddon or primordial drake would always destroy your own shields. I don't think this card will be played as a combo-card similar to sleep with the fishes/drake
warrior would XD its 1 card clear the enemy board as long as this stays on board with dk
nem se o custo fosse 6
nor if the cost were 6
yeah the you just clear the board with ur 1 dmg spell/hr/aoe
Let's see the math now. 6/6 body is 5.5 mana on vanilla stats. That's in our pocket. Sleep with the fishes is 2 mana 3 damage with the same condition but it is a one time effect. So imo this cards effect can be considered 2 mana. That makes 7.5 mana total. Since you have an effect combined with a body, a card draw value should be considered too, which is roughly 1 mana for a warrior. So we have a 8.5 mana value for 7 mana. Which is some fine value.
Other than that. Against a tempo heavy meta, this card is basically a 6/6 taunt, because of the strong end turn effect. Considering Sleep with the Fishes was basically an auto-include in control warrior decks, this card may be playable competetively. We need to wait and see the rest of the expansion to evaluate clearly ofcourse. Or rest of the raven year to be honest. With such limited standard options it is tough to speak.
I guess, but still, when its that high cost the effect seems to slow and clunky (being the minions have to be damaged from before)... Against aggro, saving a whirlwindeffect with this seems way to late... If played in a tempo-warrior rush deck it seems to weakly stated and damaging your own minions (because of whirlwind effects) seems likely..
But still, its a body on it, so I won't count it out completely... Probably a good Arenapick at times too..
With Blood Razor and Scourgelord Garrosh this card may gain considerable value late game. But you are right. Biggest problem about warrior is staying alive until that point of the game. So warrior needs some more love for this card to work. Only deck I see this fitting right now is dead man's warrior and it's like tier 5000. Not sure about arena though, last time i played warrior arena was before nax...
Just a card that’s not gonna see play. In arena it’s good though.
So a Baron Geddon but cant target face and undamaged minions. The stats are better. It's good in warrior. They have enough whirlwinds.