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this is just making the cards uglier. Ashbringer looks so good with that orange gem.

Nice!

when i started playing one of my 2 i guess legendaries from free packs was the black knight.
My friends kept joking on me because i was running it in every deck i had untill the black knight meta popped out.
Now actually they had to craft it for his insane value on some late game minions.

Now rend, i have a couple of decks in which i actually have it and it works pretty well.
Not everyone is playing retard aggro decks so stop complaining about that card,even some other underrated legendaries have their place somewhere in wild or standard.

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when i started playing one of my 2 i guess legendaries from free packs was the black knight.
My friends kept joking on me because i was running it in every deck i had untill the black knight meta popped out.
Now actually they had to craft it for his insane value on some late game minions.

Now rend, i have a couple of decks in which i actually have it and it works pretty well.
Not everyone is playing ****** aggro decks so stop complaining about that card,even some other underrated legendaries have their place somewhere in wild or standard.

Rend BlackDust?

Makes absolutely no sense, since caster weapons don't use durability upon the triggering of their effects. 

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I'm pretty sure on why they are doing this change...and this is because of the new legendary weapons. I think they don't want oozes to remove thoses weapons just like that, it would be so easy to be honest and not fun to see everyone teching ooze for that, it would make those weapons bad. My guess is that they will change how oozes (and Harrison?) work in a way that they could only destroy non-legendary weapons. Mark my words.

Permanent, uncounterable, unremovable effects are not a great idea from a design perspective. I don't think Legendary weapons are meant to be anything like that.

Well, that's the thing, they can make Oozes only kill normal weapons, BUT have Harrison Jones counter any weapon, including legendaries.

That way they will make Harrison more viable and interesting and also keep the whole thing of people teching against weapon in their decks. Just not for like... a common card everywhere that can be played for just 2 mana to remove possible up to 10 mana value on a weapon depending on what crazy stuff they come up with.

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 They like the ever-evolving meta that will come with legendary weapons bringing about a lot of weapon removal and then people dropping weapons because there is too much weapon removal

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 They like the ever-evolving meta that will come with legendary weapons bringing about a lot of weapon removal and then people dropping weapons because there is too much weapon removal

 Which basically means that using legendary weapons will always be an RNG fest based on:

Does my opponent run weapon removal > Yes > I'm fucked

Does my opponent run weapon removal > No > He's fucked

Same thing goes for Golakka Crawler & Pirates and Golakka Crawler & Jade Druid. Won't be long until every game is decided by whether your opponent has that 1 specific card Blizzard designed to counter your overpowered deck everybody is complaining about.  

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Quote from Leaga >>

 They like the ever-evolving meta that will come with legendary weapons bringing about a lot of weapon removal and then people dropping weapons because there is too much weapon removal

 Which basically means that using legendary weapons will always be an RNG fest based on:

Does my opponent run weapon removal > Yes > I'm fucked

Does my opponent run weapon removal > No > He's fucked

Same thing goes for Golakka Crawler & Pirates and Golakka Crawler & Jade Druid. Won't be long until every game is decided by whether your opponent has that 1 specific card Blizzard designed to counter your overpowered deck everybody is complaining about.  

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If your idea of RNG is what tech cards your opponent has made the decision to run then you don't belong in card games. There's a lot of RNG in this game. Theres plenty of things to complain about if you want to complain. Having to read and react to the meta shouldn't be one of them. That's just Card Games 101.

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Quote from Leaga >> 

If your idea of RNG is what tech cards your opponent has made the decision to run then you don't belong in card games. There's a lot of RNG in this game. Theres plenty of things to complain about if you want to complain. Having to read and react to the meta shouldn't be one of them. That's just Card Games 101.

My idea of tech cards is: "The current meta uses a lot of small minions so I'll use Doomsayer", or "the current meta uses a lot of big minions so I'll use heavy removal", which gives you some advantage. 

Cards like Golakka Crawler aren't "tech cards", they're just hard counters which completely fuck your opponent if they happen to use the exact thing they're supposed to counter. 

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Still not RNG. You can whine about the nuance of Tech cards vs Hate cards but either way its not RNG.

 

His point was likely that you can't complain about being lucky in card games if the thing that you're complaining about is something completely normal in any card game that requires you to build your deck... It's not really legitimate to complain about topdecking the answer that you specificly put into your deck, yes it is luck, but you're still playing a card game. Card games are, at their core, heavily influenced by luck and it's perfectly fine, nobody would look at a deck that could win every single game they ever played and say that it's fine, even though that would essentially make the luck aspect virtually go away since you would win every game.

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Still not RNG. You can whine about the nuance of Tech cards vs Hate cards but either way its not RNG.

 

You putt Gocka Crawler in your deck > Your opponent happens to play Pirates = You were lucky. 

End of the discussion. 

You included a card to make your deck better against pirates. Your deck was better against pirates. Zero RNG. 

 

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You included a card to make your deck better against pirates. Your deck was better against pirates. Zero RNG. 

 

You could get lucky, get matched vs 10 Pirate decks in a row and win all 10. 

You could get unlucky, get matched vs 10 non-Pirate decks in a row and lose all 10. 

How is it so complex to understand that matchmaking is a huge part of the RNG in Hearthstone? This example eliminates the skill factor, you just let the match maker decide whether you win or lose.