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Quote from Baylith >>

The issue with totemic granting only basic totems is that then you chop off the high end results that make it a 3 mana card, with no control of which totem you get, that makes it possible to get a totem that is conpletely worthless to the situation. On the 3 high rolls, you get a spider tank, a free draw, or a minon booster that will eat an attack. If i can't get any of those playing totemic, then totemic should cost 2, because shaman hero power is the least reliable one in the game. Sure it has okay totems, but you have no control over which one you get.

The only thing I want is actually everything

and that is always seek the community they know everything.

Actually there is. Issue is, its in shaman. Rockbiter weapon. Sire it costs a face smash, but early game like that a handful of points matters little when your removing a mana wurm or a trogg

Quote from BigFatMurloc >>

Remove RNG out of the game community hates it. And Brode is simply wrong with his attitude towards RNG.

Also Either give us answers to problem cards or nerv them. How is a 1 mana 1/3 with decisive ability ever balanced when the is no 1 mana 3 damage flat removal? Its simply not and Dev team had to see this before even releasing it because undertaker was a thing but there was no learning curve from dev team.

Its really simple.

Balance cards every season, I don't really give a rats ass on getting my dust back - just balance the game. Its so stale that I want to cry.

Amateurs, plain and simple, a lot of fancy words and explanations without saying or actually doing anything about the state of the game. They "balance" every 9 months, when they do, they don't balance, they outright destroy cards, essentially removing them from the game, their choices of design and cards are often atrocious and make no sense, ex: blade flurry nerfed to give them "space" to give rogue weapons, what do they do ? they give the 2 most overpowered classes right now; that also have the best weapons in the game (warrior and shaman) great weapons and they give Rogue, probably the worst class in the game: A FORK, a goddamn fork, that outside of the fact that it doesn't make any sense for the class, is also awful. It has nothing to do with hating Blizzard or it being cool to hate on Blizzard, i love this company and game but team 5 needs to be criticized, and heavily. This team is lazy, incompetent and the game is suffering because of it.

We do not want to hear anything, Brode. We want to SEE things. We want to SEE THINGS ACTUALLY GETTING DONE. Not just hear your BS hollow corporate talks - "we will see; we are investigating; we are evaluating; we are analyzing...". This is only a game, FFS - it's not like people's lives depend on it. 

Just act more and talk less - be more bold, swift, and radical in your actions. It is a DIGITAL card game - nothing can be done that cannot be fixed. We need cards and meta changing more often, not you pushing it towards a more and more stale environment with all your stupid changes and introduction of HIGHLY UNNEEDED format. 

We don't need your BS talk, Brode - we need MORE CARDS, you need to make at least 50% of existing cards PLAYABLE (i.e. like buffing them), and you need to make some cards/classes balanced. 

I NEVER EVER understood Team 5's stance on changes/patches - it is absolutely ridiculous. There are games (even Blizzard games) that roll out a patch with Balance tweaks/changes EVERY WEEK. How is HS so different and why this happens only when people stop playing the game?? Just think of a more regular cadence for the balance tweaks and do it regularly. 

I am pretty sure everyone will be much happier with going through a couple of versions of a single card until the right balance is found vs. not touching anything and being stuck with 5 playable archetypes in your whole game. Tournaments and pros are also suffering, so it's not just newbie complaints. 

You just need to act more and make more changes to the cards - that is all you need to do to keep HS in a healthy stance, but it seems that you still have not realized it.

AMEN

You have to understand each change to a card means a loss of money to Blizzard. Indirectly ofc, but by giving people the dust back = people buying less packs = people spending less money. As cards come and go out of favor people will just disenchant to full value and get the new "best" cards.
That's why I suspect they never nerfed Dr. boom and instead moved him to Wild. So many people crafted him (and his golden version),

Ofc you can debate that making the game healthier will make it more popular but as we evidently see, they aren't doing it.
And the only thing I 100% trust Blizzard to do well is knowing the best way to get money from people :)

Quote from Mirrari >>

You have to understand each change to a card means a loss of money to Blizzard. Indirectly ofc, but by giving people the dust back = people buying less packs = people spending less money. As cards come and go out of favor people will just disenchant to full value and get the new "best" cards.
That's why I suspect they never nerfed Dr. boom and instead moved him to Wild. So many people crafted him (and his golden version),

Ofc you can debate that making the game healthier will make it more popular but as we evidently see, they aren't doing it.
And the only thing I 100% trust Blizzard to do well is knowing the best way to get money from people :)

i agree with the more aggressive nerf and buff aproche and want to add those points:

1. the game was never designed to have more cards so the original hp pool isnt in line with the new cards. they should start buffing it for wild (e.g. 35 hp, hp pool of 40, reno heals to 30, alex to 20). if it works good transfer it to standard.

2. rework the classic set. priest has good card, but not many in classic. switch cool cards like lightbomb with useless cards like devine spirit and add tech cards to the basic set (loatheb, bomb lobber, healbot...)

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You have to understand each change to a card means a loss of money to Blizzard. Indirectly ofc, but by giving people the dust back = people buying less packs = people spending less money. As cards come and go out of favor people will just disenchant to full value and get the new "best" cards.
That's why I suspect they never nerfed Dr. boom and instead moved him to Wild. So many people crafted him (and his golden version),

they procrastinated the balance patches and now they have two options: nerfing/reworking most of the cards and making hearthstone great again(sry had to) or look away and people will complain even more bc hearthstone isnt at a healthy state anymore.

to be fair: im sure team 5 would have nerfed many more cards but they are limited my blizzard :/

Quote from CaHgO >>

Quote from Mirrari >>

You have to understand each change to a card means a loss of money to Blizzard. Indirectly ofc, but by giving people the dust back = people buying less packs = people spending less money. As cards come and go out of favor people will just disenchant to full value and get the new "best" cards.
That's why I suspect they never nerfed Dr. boom and instead moved him to Wild. So many people crafted him (and his golden version),

Ofc you can debate that making the game healthier will make it more popular but as we evidently see, they aren't doing it.
And the only thing I 100% trust Blizzard to do well is knowing the best way to get money from people :)

 I disagree. You can't have a "loss" on something you haven't "earned" at the first place. This whole concept and argument with the dust is completely broken and non-sense. If you make a PROPER balance change to a card, then people won't have to automatically disenchant it (i.e. Starving Buzzard, Warsong Commander, many more). That's why there's a whole team behind that and that's what they are paid for - to find the best possible solution. If they can't, then someone else could. 

Dust amount does not directly correlate to Blizzard's income from HS. There are MANY, MANY more ways in which real cash can be earned while the players are still satisfied and the game is balanced. I have mentioned numerous suggestions in other topics - you can check. 

Why do they even have to fully refund a changed/tweaked card?!?! This is one of their fundamental flaws. In no other game there is such ting. In Diablo, Overwatch, Call of Duty, Battlefront, WoW... none of this games refunds you for changes made on something you already own. You just accept the fact that there are balance tweaks regulary and some of your cards may suffer from it, while others might profit. 

If it's not done one-way (i.e. only nerfing), then players might "lose" the full dust value of a card that was OP and now is just good/balanced, but they will gain immensely more from other cards that have been utter crap but have been balanced and are now playable. 

And again, there's always the intangible value of keeping the game healthy and interesting (as you rightly mentioned), which far outweighs some "losses" that Blizz may have from balancing cards. 

Actually. The 4 mana 7/7 is one ofnthe few balanced overload cards out there, overload doesnt play on curve like most decks, its an anti tempo mechanic that basic is like bringing a big hammer down, you cannot do it again right away,  which is why you should see the 4 mana 7/7 as a six mana 7/7 because that is what it is, it costs the shaman 6 mana to play it, just not all on turn 4. So the turn 5 play maxes out at 3 mana. They can't play a second one right after unless they burn coin, or wait till later in the game. 

We need a new team 5... This people have do a ok work but the RNG and the simplicity is going to kill heartstone, also the nerfs each 9 months. We need fast balance an new cool ideas or bye bye.

"I think launching a "solved" environment on day 1 is a pretty big downside of that"

VS, what, "solved" on day 10 ? Like seriously, it's always been 2 weeks at most before everything becomes stale ( And that's assuming the expansion/adventure really changed anything. Looking at you, Kharazan ) for 3 MONTHS, so honestly I'm willing to sell those 9 days of wacky decks to get rid of the "aggro shaman" ( By the " I mean both them and their counterparts depending on the expansion, like undertaker hunter ).

New modes for the would be great also. I know it's futuristic but 2vs2 or tournament modes will satifsfy the majority of the society for example.

The incompetence of this team is just mind blowing, honestly. Hearthstone is just oozing with potential. And they're trying really hard to ruin it. The competitive scene is already dying out really fast. In a world with tuskar and yogg deciding almost every game. Its understandable. The game was already border line competitive. Now its finally as twitch would say a complete clown fiesta.

And they're saying basically, nothing is wrong. Well... maybe we should change arena abit. Seriously? Is that all that your concerned about. Just ask any "pro" and they will say the same thing over and over again. This game needs change, fast. Or you will see numbers dropping on twitch and ingame fast. Only the part of the community that doesn't really care and plays tavern brawl all day thinks HS is fine. Probably the dev team is part of them.

I realize that these forums certainly don't speak for every HS player and I don't want to comment for everyone on the forums.  However, between hearthpwn, reddit, the official Hearthstone forums, Twitter, etc., it seems like Ben and the rest of Team 5 should have a good understanding of the community's concerns.

For example, (from what I've read) most people don't mind RNG.  At least RNG is "small doses" so to speak, but when MANY cards have RNG on them and then you throw Yogg into the mix, now people (IMHO) start thinking there is TOO MUCH RNG in the game.  I know Blizzard wants to have RNG in the game...I get that, but there's a fine line where you get way too much of it and that can get people upset.  Losing to, or winning by, RNG once in a while is fun; but losing or winning often BECAUSE of RNG (dare I mention Yogg again) is not.

The RNG is just one example.  We also have Aggro. Shaman (and now midrange) making up a "relatively" large portion of the meta, Call of the Wild being OP (at least to some? many? people).  As others have mentioned, maybe the best way for Team 5 to relieve our collective anxiety about the future of the game is to stay in communication with us.  More "blue posts" on the forums could go a long way in that endeavor.  As long as they don't use the words "it's on our radar" and/or "soon".  As I read somewhere else in this thread, I feel that the devs need to be more decisive at times.