Warsong Commander Nerf Incoming
Grim Patron isn't going to be the same. The patch will go live next week.
Quote from ZeriyahThe following balance change will be made in an upcoming patch:
Warsong Commander now reads: Your Charge minions have +1 Attack.
Over the course of the short but impactful history of Hearthstone, we’ve taken a strong stance that we’d like to make changes to cards only when they are completely necessary. The direction of gameplay and the metagame should be defined by our players, and as the meta is evolving, many different types of decks can emerge. Cards that were once impactful in the meta can be less so once new strategies emerge, and that change is brought on by the constant need and drive for innovation by our players.
Innovation is just one way a game can evolve, and the best way to shake up the meta and innovate in Hearthstone is by introducing new cards into the game. Introducing new cards to Hearthstone is our preferred method of changing the current state of the game. It’s exciting to discover a deck that may have an advantage over a popular deck out there, and new cards lead to the discovery of new combinations, and new conversations. Hearthstone thrives off of stories about enjoying a fast-paced, fun game with friends that’s full of delightful surprises.
Going forward, we will continue to stand by our stance that we will only make adjustments to cards when we feel it is completely necessary and allow the injection of new cards into the game help our players define what the meta evolves into. In the case of Warsong Commander, we felt this change was necessary to help expand both future design space and to stand by our overarching game philosophy that battles between minions and fighting for board control is what makes Hearthstone fun and compelling.
The patch that includes the Warsong Commander change is currently planned for next week. (Source)
all they needed to do was text that minions created by other minions do not receive the charge bonus. that takes care of patrons. then... the frothing should be as they sshould have from the get-go... only receiving attack based on friendly minion damage. if the warrior has a full board and rapes his own shit to otk you in that case... then you asked for it.
Dire Wolf Alpha also make“Your Charge minions have +1 Attack” :>
warsong still better... it has one more health for only one more mana.... and only affects a select numbe rof minions that usually cost too much to place down with it and be used before the warsong is dead! still guuuuuuuuuuuudddddddd
SYKE
Raid leader also gives all your non charge minions +1 attack at the same cost -1 health, really blizzard?
Remove priest he is much harder to beat than a face hunter
no, the user base will diminish and fewer new players will remain in the game afte rtrying it and through word of mouth even fewer will ever bother to try to begin with eventually. blizzard is not almighty just because it attaches it's name to shit. if it isn't noob friendly neough, it will gain a rep as p2w and regardless of the label (blizzard) that rep will permanently damage it even if it recovers somewhat over time. some people wills till never touch it with a ten foot pole and have moved onto somehting else already. like hex any of the other card games on steam that would be less p2w at that point. hex is not bad btw, even as free player. they allow you to trade and sell your unwanted cards rather than dust them for next to nothing in value. blizzard set up the dust system so that mistakes or 'meta' (i.e. no-life nerd changes) lead to regret and they hope you won't realize a bot is far cheaper than paying for packs and doesn't require waiting for amazon coin sales and then going through 5 minutes of bs to finally get all the packs.
TLDR - blizzard knows better than to screw the noob-friendly decks TOO much. having many non paying players to farm keeps the paying players paying. it's all about the benjamins.
Paladins are filling the ladder, remove Mysterious Challenger and all cards with Charge and then the game will be playable again.
I'm rejoicing because patron warriors were bad for the meta, but they really could have thought of a better way to nerf this. People are (correctly, IMO) pointing out that Raid Leader is strictly better than Warsong Commander - a class card. That's just poor design.
'Grim Patron isn't going to be the same'
I bet ya, just another unplayable card now.
FINALLY! THE NIGHTMARE IS OVER!
Not nerfed, completely destroyed.
They could do much better than that for gods sake. Make warsong commander give charge to minions you play FROM YOUR HAND! ITS SIMPLE!
Patrons were not the problem in PW.
That still doesn't solve the problem with getting 10+ Atk Frothing Berserker with charge.
Patrons are not the problem in Peace Walker?
"There was never a single nerf that ended up in the card seeing the lights of the day again"
What about Sylvanas?
And Warsong Commander and the giants got nerved too, but are still played
EDIT: Warsong Commander isn't played anymore.
Yeah! But I got your point! Usually when they nerf something it's more likely to be unplayable after that!
The problem was frothing otk not the damn commander. A good nerf would actually be to give minions with 3 or less attack charge as long as they are 3 attack and below, instead they messed up the entire archetype and warsong comm will most likely never see the light of play again. I personally hate patron decks but man this is work of amateurs.
Yep, this was EXACTLY the fix they needed to do. The second a minion's attack was greater than 3 it lost charge. That way if you inner raged a patron, it would lose charge but you'd still have a new one with charge. What happens if a Charge Patron deck is worked out? Make sure Emperor Thaurissan knocks it down a tick, then you can get at least one frothing in the same boat.
The change doesn't even make sense.