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i think its change nothing, maybe a bit takes tempo down, but in the end 2 turn later its same, he just cant use 2 time in one turn, maybe im wrong lets see in game.

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It is someting and hopefully it will work. Tho I fear it will not and they will have to nerf it one more time.

It's getting nerfed another time, this is just a stop-gap solution until they can properly address it. 

That's a BS of the year. It was very unlikely to pull it out/destroy it in hand, as the deck runs too many minions. Also, lock was quite consistently playing the Snake on turn 6. And even if you - by some miracle - get rid of it, they can just excavate two more.

Then you don't put enough pressure.

And you don't rat or theotar right away.

You need to wait for the opponent to bounce and spend their resources.

I have played Snake Warlock first 2 days of the expansion. It was so slow.

Then I changed to Highlander Dragon Druid. Put in Rat, Theotar, Doomkin and one more rat with ETC. Dragon druid apply so much pressure which doesn't allow the opponent to play snake. And if it gets the snake in hand you can easily counter it.

I’ve been stomping it just with dragon Druid too, just not Highlander. Everyone complains about warlock having all the best removal, but has trouble with a board full of buffed up dragon golems on turn 5 or 6. Same story with holy buff Paladin, it’s so much faster than the snake shenanigans. The best tech against the snake is doing lethal damage first.

I've gone 34-2 with the deck and I'd say I play below average.

the two losses were mirrors btw

It's similar to The Caverns Below when it was first released. If you understand to just get on board and pummel them, and your deck is capable of such a thing, it's weak. Sure they're healing for 10, but they're also spending 6 mana for almost 0 board presence. It's healing 10 + tempo suicide, and they need to do it twice before the third one kills you. And they can't start until turn 6 at the earliest (turn 5 with coin). They need to run all these god awful bounce cards that do nothing before they have snake. It's not a good deck.

But also, it just sucks to play against. It's not interesting. You beat them up or you get farmed. It hard punishes certain kinds of decks. Caverns Below was cool and skill expressive, at least the first time it got a nerf (which it still deserved). I'm not sure anyone actually enjoys playing snake. I think it's fair it gets shot dead. Nothing of value will be lost.

Uhm, reasons of banning Shu'ma? It was good arena card.

I don't play Arena much, so I can't really tell, but I don't see why is that card problematic either...

My best quess is that, unless immediately destroyed, it gives you too much of a board advantage, making it too much of a snowball card. But I haven't really played the new Arena rotation, so don't have personal experience with it.

the best nerf to it is it does dmg to enemy hero but you do keep the health increase.

Should delay the combo at least two turns if its enough time will tell, it will without a doubt still be a power house and I still think they should have either put a limit to how low you can bring someone or reduce the health reduced by it atm its a 10 dmg lifesteal that permantly reduce the health of the opponent by 10 reducing it to 8 just has really high value still but it takes 4 plays to reduce someone too 0 or 5 if they start on 35.

Because something that is missed in all the talks is how annoying it can be in a more control deck that for sure has the time to pull off the combo very consistently, people have just been playing the more aggressive deck with it. In a more control oriented warlock it works wonders aswell and this nerf wont affect it much.

Aren't most Snakelocks built on the same core as Control Warlock? 

Except it has to shoehorn in 8 excavate cards and 4 bounce cards. That’s a whole lot of removal that’s not there anymore.

Tbh its not bad but the problem is win conditions that most classes cannot counter. Warlocks clears board every round easily, plays this on turn 6 + bounces. There is 0 interaction between the opponent and this card to limit its effect other than trying to heal. This card should be dealing damage and life steal instead of stealing health directly. 2 times this gets played your opponent's max health is at 10, think about that.

You do know that you can easily counter the deck by running dirty rat and Theotar.

Plus, it takes so long to excavate 4 times and get the snake.

I would be more warry about Naga DH and Dude Paladin than Snake Warlock.