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Evolve buff!

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I really wish these cards read "...If your deck has only Odd-cost or Even-cost cards..." so these can be used in both archetypes

 You forgot the Kappa! 

..... 3 mana 3/3: If your deck only has even cost cards..... :)

 

 I must say, I don't get it!

 

 Uhhhm , i hope you are not trolling and make me look like a dummy , but those cards that support " only odd cost cards“ are odd themselves ( or even if they support a only even deck)  . So , unless the mana cost changes with the text this wouldn’t work. ( unless you plan to always draw both cats in your "even cost-deck" starting hand). 

 

I never felt so silly - ever - on this forum. I'm not even kidding you, didn't even think about it.
Here's a bunch of Kappa to make up for it 

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I really wish these cards read "...If your deck has only Odd-cost or Even-cost cards..." so these can be used in both archetypes

 You forgot the Kappa! 

..... 3 mana 3/3: If your deck only has even cost cards..... :)

 

I really wish these cards read "...If your deck has only Odd-cost or Even-cost cards..." so these can be used in both archetypes

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I like it. It's still fun 

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aint new, there is molten blade that is the same, and the 1 mana legendary cant remember the name,. but love the expac so far

There's also the new "change each turn in hand" card type, which may be interesting.

For all we know, Yong Woo will post a video today with himself looking for and finding his lost mates, including the expansion announcement. This tweet doesn't rule out anything.

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I'd love some proof to, but just to make a point, let's assume you're right and your idea holds weight.

I have the following questions;

What is your hypothesis? Would it be correct to say that it is: "Hearthstone has a matchmaking system that tries to lower the chance that decks including specific tech-cards matches up against the decks that they are intended to counter."?

If so, what would you say motivates them to arrange such a system? I argue that it would just lower the incentive to craft tech cards if it's not working out. You may say it's because they want the expensive tier 1 decks to be mandatory to craft, but I'd maintain that people would still craft these decks as long as they're posted on Hearthpwn, reddit or twitter or whatever. Wouldn't blizzard make more money on tech cards actually working? That way the meta changes more and people will need to try out more decks. Blizzard has nothing to win on a stale meta as people would only build one or two decks.

My second point is the risk involved from such a move from Blizzard. It's pretty easy to test using a quantitative method as you did. Requires fairly low effort, especially if many are doing it. Even more considering various meta reports and third party stat trackers. If Blizzard would be found out that they're rigging the ladder, that would be HUGE and may just destroy a huge part of the community, especially the competitive scene (which I would say is what keep Hearthstone alive). It seems like a huge risk for a low benefit and I see this being sort of a defeater for any conspiracy theory. It just makes no sense, at least for me. But someone can provide more proof and data about this, on a much larger scale as well, then I'd definitely be willing to trust that data and wonder if there's something weird going on from Blizzards side.

Also, data like that wouldn't necessarily conclude that Blizzard made this intentionally, we'd need more proof for that. It might as well originate from an unintentional glitch in the game, or whatever.

 

 i can say what motivates Blizzard to arrange A System like that. If meta is stable and you can climb ladder with any cards or any decks you dont need any New cards to change meta anymore. Because it is stable and every deck is equal. Also you will know that the first deck you have created can climb ladder even after 2 years and you motivate yourself like " ı really dont need New cards to climb so i can spend my money for more challenging stuff ".  After that only fun players spend money for try New cards. Competitive players will keep climbing ladder with older decks. Guess what? Blizzard's main money source is competitive players, not fun players. So it seems fair for A company which gains money from these. 

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I think the benefits for Blizzard having the ability to alter win rates based on decks and card composition is obvious.  To adjust win rates in arena, and variety to the experience, they adjust the rate certain draft options appear. This is known, and they did this because people disliked the experience of facing mage after mage with flamestrike, for example.

Since they can't adjust card draft options in constructed, it seems reasonable that they might adjust match ups. The harder it is to climb with one deck, the more likely players are to try different decks. If you have a tech card that works really well against what you are facing, you don't have incentive to craft other tech cards, buy more packs etc.

I don't have proof, but I'd like to try out the OP's experiment and see if I get similar results. I would also encourage others to do the same.

I'd love some proof to, but just to make a point, let's assume you're right and your idea holds weight.

I have the following questions;

What is your hypothesis? Would it be correct to say that it is: "Hearthstone has a matchmaking system that tries to lower the chance that decks including specific tech-cards matches up against the decks that they are intended to counter."?

If so, what would you say motivates them to arrange such a system? I argue that it would just lower the incentive to craft tech cards if it's not working out. You may say it's because they want the expensive tier 1 decks to be mandatory to craft, but I'd maintain that people would still craft these decks as long as they're posted on Hearthpwn, reddit or twitter or whatever. Wouldn't blizzard make more money on tech cards actually working? That way the meta changes more and people will need to try out more decks. Blizzard has nothing to win on a stale meta as people would only build one or two decks.

My second point is the risk involved from such a move from Blizzard. It's pretty easy to test using a quantitative method as you did. Requires fairly low effort, especially if many are doing it. Even more considering various meta reports and third party stat trackers. If Blizzard would be found out that they're rigging the ladder, that would be HUGE and may just destroy a huge part of the community, especially the competitive scene (which I would say is what keep Hearthstone alive). It seems like a huge risk for a low benefit and I see this being sort of a defeater for any conspiracy theory. It just makes no sense, at least for me. But someone can provide more proof and data about this, on a much larger scale as well, then I'd definitely be willing to trust that data and wonder if there's something weird going on from Blizzards side.

Also, data like that wouldn't necessarily conclude that Blizzard made this intentionally, we'd need more proof for that. It might as well originate from an unintentional glitch in the game, or whatever.

Power Overwhelming

A spell that targets a friendly minion and also has a drawback

Patches is still strong as a deck thinner, but I like any nerf to this card. It's been way too dominating.

I'm playing this on alternate account without Umbra and Sneeds. I added Sylvanas and Kel'thuzad. Rivendare is basically never important, but Sonya, Illusionist, secrets and Kel'thuzad are game makers! Especially infinite-cycling Illusionists with the help of Cheat Death. It's hilarious!

I honestly have not had this much fun with Hearthstone for a LONG time. I'd recommend this deck to anyone!

Went from rank 7 to 9 so far... I keep drawing dead with this deck. Either my hand is full with top-end with no secrets, or full with just secrets and no synergy. Usually can't even play anything until turn 3-4, no matter how hard I mulligan for it. Perhaps just a really bad luck streak.