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golden cards serves one purpose only and that is to waste your dust / money with cosmetics.. i feel in that trap long time ago in around naxx times where i had fully golden wallet warrior and midrange shaman... don't do it.. it is a huge mistake unless you want to waste your money... auto dust golden cards

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Rock paper scissors. Deck that beats aggro/midrange tends to lose to control which tends to lose to aggro

 name me current example, or stop just saying words without thinking

 I think they're just speaking conceptually.  In terms of how metas normally operate, they're not completely incorrect.
Control has the board clears and sustain to deal with aggro > Combo has the finishers to destroy control > Aggro wins too early for combo to deal with.  That's just how it *would* be.

Granted in standard right now Control appears to be "not doing well", though Clown Druid (is that a control deck?) and Control Warlock are tier 2 with positive winrates, so there's something at least.  From what I can tell, it's just because most control classes don't have "good enough" control tools to compete with how good aggro is at the moment.  I'd say we buff up some of the weaker/lackluster control cards that classes aren't playing/have low "played" winrates to give control a better fighting chance.

That being said, a lot of people in the thread have pointed out personal experiences playing their own control brews with relative success - which leads me to believe that things aren't as bad as people are saying it is.

 yes that is my point, they are not thinking before they are talking... 

as long as people lose the game on turn 5-7 there will be people who feel cheated out of a game before it even started...

I don't think anything could be nerfed outside of random generation, certain classes draw and mana cheat cards l mana cheat should imo be reserved for 6 mana cards and above.



anyways my point is what we need is better comeback / stabilizing cards such like heals / freezes armor / boardclears / taunts

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Rock paper scissors. Deck that beats aggro/midrange tends to lose to control which tends to lose to aggro

 name me current example, or stop just saying words without thinking

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And PUA are Pick Up Artists, the way you wrote your posts in this thread is very reminiscing to the PUA, MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way), Black Pill folk. I cannot think of any group of people I would want to associate myself with less.

 

I get that you are defensive due to this "semi public" exposing of your lack of knowledge, it is understandable for you to be defensive, it is how the ego works. this topic is not something you care about mate so don't take a lose of pride in not understanding it, just don't pretend to be something that you are not.

this whole thing with me being some kind of womanizer? I don't understand where this comes from it is totally out of pocket and seems to be just to be a way for your ego to protect your pride, so ill let it slide.

however, what I am doing is exposing the workings of your ego standing in your way of progressing as a man, this is a struggle most of us have and don't let it stop you from getting smarter by just labeling anyone who says something "toxic" or whatever buzz word people wanna say these day for stuff they don't agree with.

putting me into a category of the worst people you know, just for exposing you don't understand some random topic online is something you got to work on tho, that is how extremisms is born and you don't wanna go that road... if you don't see no middle ground then you need to understand that you are on the wrong track...

only writing this so you understand that i am helping you and not hurting you.. get your ego in check and stop commenting more on this forum.. it is about hearthstone after all this other bullshit... there is a time and a place

 I never said you were a womaniser lol. I said you are using language that the Black Pill crowd are famed for.

I’m trying to help you here as you obviously don’t know how ridiculous you look calling people beta males on a Hearthstone forum, assuming people never had a father growing up, or infering they haven’t progressed as a man lol. Like if you ever fancy a laugh go onto one of the Black Pill subreddits and you will see people trying to act exactly like you are here.

 saying calling people on a hearthstone forum beta male is ridiculous is just cap, it is one of the most fitting places next to a DnD forum..





I can tell you emulating my way of speaking and that is good, already you showing a little more backbone keep it up champ maybe one day you will ever make me proud  

 https://youtu.be/sJ8EAwRauoM

My final comment as you’re projecting a lot. Skip to 7:10 into this video and you might understand how you’re sounds ng here.

 that has nothing to do with the topic lol... are you having issues focusing?... like where are the similarities? lol..


you talking about projecting and sending me this as an example of my behavior? :P... if you was not so caught up in your ego I am sure you would be able to see the irony yourself... 


im talking about being okay with who you are and not needing to make apologies for your desires and you sending me this? like have iv really been talking that much over your head? xD... 

you cannot run discover cards in shaman because you lose too much tempo and the effect is random... you can only do it in mage and priest because they mana cheat

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And PUA are Pick Up Artists, the way you wrote your posts in this thread is very reminiscing to the PUA, MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way), Black Pill folk. I cannot think of any group of people I would want to associate myself with less.

 

I get that you are defensive due to this "semi public" exposing of your lack of knowledge, it is understandable for you to be defensive, it is how the ego works. this topic is not something you care about mate so don't take a lose of pride in not understanding it, just don't pretend to be something that you are not.

this whole thing with me being some kind of womanizer? I don't understand where this comes from it is totally out of pocket and seems to be just to be a way for your ego to protect your pride, so ill let it slide.

however, what I am doing is exposing the workings of your ego standing in your way of progressing as a man, this is a struggle most of us have and don't let it stop you from getting smarter by just labeling anyone who says something "toxic" or whatever buzz word people wanna say these day for stuff they don't agree with.

putting me into a category of the worst people you know, just for exposing you don't understand some random topic online is something you got to work on tho, that is how extremisms is born and you don't wanna go that road... if you don't see no middle ground then you need to understand that you are on the wrong track...

only writing this so you understand that i am helping you and not hurting you.. get your ego in check and stop commenting more on this forum.. it is about hearthstone after all this other bullshit... there is a time and a place

 I never said you were a womaniser lol. I said you are using language that the Black Pill crowd are famed for.

I’m trying to help you here as you obviously don’t know how ridiculous you look calling people beta males on a Hearthstone forum, assuming people never had a father growing up, or infering they haven’t progressed as a man lol. Like if you ever fancy a laugh go onto one of the Black Pill subreddits and you will see people trying to act exactly like you are here.

 saying calling people on a hearthstone forum beta male is ridiculous is just cap, it is one of the most fitting places next to a DnD forum..





I can tell you emulating my way of speaking and that is good, already you showing a little more backbone keep it up champ maybe one day you will ever make me proud  

azure drake back in standard 

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And PUA are Pick Up Artists, the way you wrote your posts in this thread is very reminiscing to the PUA, MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way), Black Pill folk. I cannot think of any group of people I would want to associate myself with less.

 

I get that you are defensive due to this "semi public" exposing of your lack of knowledge, it is understandable for you to be defensive, it is how the ego works. this topic is not something you care about mate so don't take a lose of pride in not understanding it, just don't pretend to be something that you are not.

this whole thing with me being some kind of womanizer? I don't understand where this comes from it is totally out of pocket and seems to be just to be a way for your ego to protect your pride, so ill let it slide.

however, what I am doing is exposing the workings of your ego standing in your way of progressing as a man, this is a struggle most of us have and don't let it stop you from getting smarter by just labeling anyone who says something "toxic" or whatever buzz word people wanna say these day for stuff they don't agree with.

putting me into a category of the worst people you know, just for exposing you don't understand some random topic online is something you got to work on tho, that is how extremisms is born and you don't wanna go that road... if you don't see no middle ground then you need to understand that you are on the wrong track...

only writing this so you understand that i am helping you and not hurting you.. get your ego in check and stop commenting more on this forum.. it is about hearthstone after all this other bullshit... there is a time and a place

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^This is what I mean. In general I would probably agree with this guy on certain positions as I tend to be critical of the game, but he comes across a weird, so I don’t want to.

 basically you are triggered by a random guy on the internet not self censoring to protect your sensibilities, classic example of wanting to change the world instead of changing yourself because of delusion.

if you are a weak loser who has no spin, (I said if, just so your weak ass can follow the conversation, snowflake) why should anyone care what you think? yes you got an opinion and you are able to express them online and maybe if you feeling brave you tell your momma about them... cmon man, get a spin and say what you like and what you dont like an manifest it into the world... the only safespace is at home when you offline 

 Why are you trying to act hard on a card game forum?

Like everything you said there was nonsensical drivel, you don't come across as some kind of 'alpha male', you come across as a nerd who spends too much time watching PUA videos on youtube.

 

 I don't understand you reference mate, no idea what pua even is.

there is nothing hardcore about what i am saying, it is basic af.. the fact that you think it is in anyway hardcore makes me think you grew up without a farther or atleast that he didnt spend much time with you teaching you about how to be a man and that is a little sad.

best wishes to you, a lot of other people have the same struggle as you so keep on fighting the good fight

Again, I can tell that in your own head you believe that what you are writing here is extremely cutting, like you believe that you are really tearing into me with your ALPHA MALE psychobabble.

This isn't the case though, I find what you are saying to be weird. It makes you come across as a very strange person. And I can guarantee that most other people of adult age will feel the same.

If you want to get a points across well in the future you need to realise that carrying on like you are now is the worst way to do so. 

 I can tell you are a very "progressive" person... funny to me how you bring up this alpha male bullshit but dont even understand what being alpha is... alpha is violence, doing harm to get what you want, and at no point was that ever a part of anything i was saying...

you might just be too stupid to understand and that is okay I am sure if you care about this topic in time you will understand and if not maybe stop talking about, since you are clearly on deep water...

anyways I am done wasting words on you, good luck in life

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^This is what I mean. In general I would probably agree with this guy on certain positions as I tend to be critical of the game, but he comes across a weird, so I don’t want to.

 basically you are triggered by a random guy on the internet not self censoring to protect your sensibilities, classic example of wanting to change the world instead of changing yourself because of delusion.

if you are a weak loser who has no spin, (I said if, just so your weak ass can follow the conversation, snowflake) why should anyone care what you think? yes you got an opinion and you are able to express them online and maybe if you feeling brave you tell your momma about them... cmon man, get a spin and say what you like and what you dont like an manifest it into the world... the only safespace is at home when you offline 

 Why are you trying to act hard on a card game forum?

Like everything you said there was nonsensical drivel, you don't come across as some kind of 'alpha male', you come across as a nerd who spends too much time watching PUA videos on youtube.

 

 I don't understand you reference mate, no idea what pua even is.

there is nothing hardcore about what i am saying, it is basic af.. the fact that you think it is in anyway hardcore makes me think you grew up without a farther or atleast that he didnt spend much time with you teaching you about how to be a man and that is a little sad.

best wishes to you, a lot of other people have the same struggle as you so keep on fighting the good fight

shaman is the hardest class to play in hearthstone, it is a fact.

you always have to think the next turn in order to curve right in terms of overload, added on top of that now you maybe have to think about playing an elemental (if you playing an elemental deck) or think about playing a spell (if you playing torrent / marshspawn or that useless 5 drop)

like who else got to deal with that?

on top of this we get so many different tribes that are unfinished and unrefined to pollute our card pool... elemental, murloc, totem... neither of these overlap... atleast overload and spell "type decks" have some overlap... murlocs for shaman are basically not even a card you ever want to put in your deck unless you go all out and same with all the elementals and totems, and if you go all out you are playing a b tier deck (at best)


on top of having to constantly think ahead of turns (more than other classes) you also got like no draw... the fact that the coreset changes made the only sort of viable draw (far sight) go POOF only made shamans horrible draw even worse...

and a site not to having bad draw, you can kinda site step bad draw with having a more heavy curve to get more out of the cards you do have, this resoults in bad opening hands and you cannot even really play a card that cost more than 7 really if you play any overload cards because it is simply just gonna be a nightmare to have cleared mana crystals to even do so... like i could write so much about how messed up shaman is on so many points and what sort of stuff they need back (like lava shock + azure drake(fk that 5 mana elemental replacement for azure drake))


blizzard don't know what they want to do with shaman, and it is a damn shame... 

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^This is what I mean. In general I would probably agree with this guy on certain positions as I tend to be critical of the game, but he comes across a weird, so I don’t want to.

 basically you are triggered by a random guy on the internet not self censoring to protect your sensibilities, classic example of wanting to change the world instead of changing yourself because of delusion.

if you are a weak loser who has no spin, (I said if, just so your weak ass can follow the conversation, snowflake) why should anyone care what you think? yes you got an opinion and you are able to express them online and maybe if you feeling brave you tell your momma about them... cmon man, get a spin and say what you like and what you dont like an manifest it into the world... the only safespace is at home when you offline 

### Legend
# Class: Shaman
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Gryphon
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# 2x (1) Devolving Missiles
# 2x (1) Guidance
# 2x (1) Primordial Studies
# 1x (2) Bloodmage Thalnos
# 1x (2) Cagematch Custodian
# 2x (2) Diligent Notetaker
# 2x (2) Landslide
# 2x (2) Rockbiter Weapon
# 2x (2) Wandmaker
# 2x (3) Feral Spirit
# 1x (3) Instructor Fireheart
# 1x (3) Lady Vashj
# 1x (3) Mankrik
# 2x (3) Serpentshrine Portal
# 1x (3) Speaker Gidra
# 2x (3) Stormstrike
# 1x (4) Kazakus, Golem Shaper
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hope you like it

if you like doomhammer burn shaman then i got a deck for you that I personally dont think is boring