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    posted a message on Is Druid the next big offender?
    Quote from Firebolts >>
    Quote from turtleboats >>
    Quote from Danelectro >>

    As a combo druid and hunter player, anyone that says combo is fine is a complete moron. So many times i've been at 1 or 2 hp with the other guy at 20 then top kek a savage roar and crush his dreams even though I didn't do anything significant all match. Combo druid can still win alot even without combo. It is completely brainless. You just ramp and put down big threat until you top deck something to win. IMO it's just as brainless as secret paladin. Yes Druid is my main deck second being mid range hunter.

    as druid being one of the most popular decks, we have a large percentage of the player base playing it, and people seem to not think what they are playing is broken. Kinda how people say secret paladin is fine.

    Druid has enough early game now to lose combo. 

     This post says it all.
    As I said in one of my earlier posts where I tried to have a decent conversation in this thread, combo in druid is now, only insurance. Combo isn't the main win condition anymore. With aggro decks, druid is now king and this is why it is top of the ladder.
    How many of you druid defenders (same people and random gutter rank players) fail to see why all the pros are calling it a top tier deck in hearthstone atm need to take a look in the mirror. Take a look at yourself, and look at what the pros, tier lists, and ladder are saying. Yes I keep reiterating that, but thats because thats all I need. Your game knowledge, gameplay, and insight are considerably on a lower level than a pro, you are less than the top of the ladder, and you are not above those. I am not either even as a legend player (but I am not the one refuting what all the top tier players are saying you guys are.) If you were anywhere near the level and minds of the top tier players, your false claims would hold merit. Until you can overcome that, your facts and "knowledge" holds no merit over what is happening at a top tier level of play.
    Signing out of this thread of gutter ranked tier players discuss their thoughts against what all the top tier players in the game are refuting. Google Dunning Kruger, it may apply to you.
     Once again, no matter how many times you mention it, you never actually give us the links.
    Not saying you're wrong, but you need to give us links rather then just stating someone said it. otherwise, your arguments hold NO water.
    The fact you need links means you just don't follow the competitive/top tier level of this game closely enough. Latest kripp vid(s) complain about druid being a cancerous force and even FON being a key class card thats overpowered. Last three, four, five (who knows at this point) weeks of tempo storm tier snapshots have druid at tier 1, top of the ladder everyday is druid every other game. Everyday on pro player streams, like Dog complain about druid calling it a cancerous class (even using the words cancer to describe them!) These are just the a couple quick thoughts I spewed in the manner of seconds. Mind you, I don't even watch or follow these people, these are just the top clips I see on the hearthstone reddit everyday.
    If you need these "links." you just don't follow top level of play enough (and I follow it very very casually) or even compete at that level and have no place in this thread.
    Step your game up in every facet. Jesus, this thread is cancerous as much as the ladder atm. Trying to have a conversation with people with little to no knowledge of the current game is the state of this thread.
    The burden of proof is on all of you to prove why it isn't broken, do you know more than the top tier players. Nah.
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    posted a message on Is Druid the next big offender?
    Quote from Danelectro >>

    As a combo druid and hunter player, anyone that says combo is fine is a complete moron. So many times i've been at 1 or 2 hp with the other guy at 20 then top kek a savage roar and crush his dreams even though I didn't do anything significant all match. Combo druid can still win alot even without combo. It is completely brainless. You just ramp and put down big threat until you top deck something to win. IMO it's just as brainless as secret paladin. Yes Druid is my main deck second being mid range hunter.

    as druid being one of the most popular decks, we have a large percentage of the player base playing it, and people seem to not think what they are playing is broken. Kinda how people say secret paladin is fine.

    Druid has enough early game now to lose combo. 

     This post says it all.
    As I said in one of my earlier posts where I tried to have a decent conversation in this thread, combo in druid is now, only insurance. Combo isn't the main win condition anymore. With aggro decks, druid is now king and this is why it is top of the ladder.
    How many of you druid defenders (same people and random gutter rank players) fail to see why all the pros are calling it a top tier deck in hearthstone atm need to take a look in the mirror. Take a look at yourself, and look at what the pros, tier lists, and ladder are saying. Yes I keep reiterating that, but thats because thats all I need. Your game knowledge, gameplay, and insight are considerably on a lower level than a pro, you are less than the top of the ladder, and you are not above those. I am not either even as a legend player (but I am not the one refuting what all the top tier players are saying you guys are.) If you were anywhere near the level and minds of the top tier players, your false claims would hold merit. Until you can overcome that, your facts and "knowledge" holds no merit over what is happening at a top tier level of play.
    Signing out of this thread of gutter ranked tier players discuss their thoughts against what all the top tier players in the game are refuting. Google Dunning Kruger, it may apply to you.
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    posted a message on Is Druid the next big offender?
    Quote from DragonConsort >>

    Alright here is my turtleboat impression.  

    "Druid is underpowered, all the pros say.  They know better than you."

    Think I nailed it.  

     

     it is true, they know better than you and me. deal with it. btw its "overpowered." nice typo though.
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    posted a message on Is Druid the next big offender?
    Quote from DragonConsort >>

    In addition it is funny that you mock rank 5 players when you yourself are rank 20 atm.  Lol.

     Lol I am a legend player, nice try though. Seems I struck a nerve.
    Links, sources? Anyone thats been following or playing top of the ladder day in and day out, wouldnt need "sources."

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    posted a message on Is Druid the next big offender?

    Druid is op. No amount of pro players saying op, or being in top tier in tournaments, willl sway these trolls. Its futile reasoning with them. Even Kripps latest video says druid is overpowered!

     

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    posted a message on Is Druid the next big offender?

    whats there to discuss then? Watch the latest kripp vid!

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    posted a message on Is Druid the next big offender?

    I am not saying I know more, but even pro players like Kripp agree!

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    posted a message on Is Druid the next big offender?

    its been top tier in tournaments forever. 

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    posted a message on Is Druid the next big offender?
    Quote from DragonConsort>>

    Comparing it to warsong is ridiculous, combo does not eat up design space.  If that eats up design space you can say anything eats up design space.  All cards are balanced around other cards that is just the way it is.  Unless it is severely limiting design space, then there isn't a problem.  Classes are balanced around their strengths.  For example gahzrilla sucks in Hunter but would be broken in Warrior.  

    Druid's single target removal is awful, it's AoE is also awful.  There is no 'Brawl', 'Consecrate+Equality', 'Flamestrike', Lightning storm.  You lose the board, you are done.  This is why anyone who actually plays Druid thinks combo and the class as a whole is fine.  Only people who don't play it, and thus don't see the severe weaknesses the class call out for nerfs.  

     

    Top of the ladder, meta snapshots, tournaments, ALL SUGGEST OTHERWISE. 

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    posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place!

    played a turn 3 dr boom druid, why is this a thing, why is it allowed? how is that even balanced?

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    posted a message on Is Druid the next big offender?

    Tier 1 deck in tourneys and meta snapshots, "not op."

    Top of ladder say otherwise as well. Give it up.

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    posted a message on Is Druid the next big offender?
    Quote from MezumeHS>>

    First of all, Druid is far from being OP by any means. It is one of the most draw-dependent decks in the game,

     

    Stopped reading there. Wrath and ancient say otherwise. 

     

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    posted a message on Is Druid the next big offender?

    You don't even need combo anymore. Have you guys even been playing ranked this month lately? Living roots, in to dranassus, in to some cheap minions like juggler or leper gnome, then fel reaver, claw to protect your board, swipe to get rid of threats. Hello?

    Combo is just insurance, yeah it is annoying and super strong, but thats not all thats wrong with the class. Darnassus is a huge amplifier in the druid deck and there just isn't one single thing you can pin point in the deck as being over powered. Something needs to change. Maybe roar for four mana, maybe darnassus to 2 hp...who the hell knows.

     

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    posted a message on Can we nerf druids yet?

    Legend player.

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    posted a message on Can we nerf druids yet?

    Top of the ladder druid, druid, druid, druid.

    Tier 1 deck, cancer cancer cancer. Deny it? You are a druid player.

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